An Artist in Exile Tests India’s Democratic Ideals

[genmirajborgza786]

It would be an act of blasphemy since paintings are not tollerated in Islam.
Otoh hinduism allows to paint nude gods and godesses...
Its got nothing to do with secularism.

neo are you a hindu if not then how can you give verdict's about its rules with such confidence the tea & 3 shammi kabab for 40 (people) kitty parties of a particuler pseudo-intellectual muslims does not in any way qualify them to give fatwas regarding other peoples religions with such ease sorry sir but its true.

 

[Goodperson]

Ask those who oppose Hussein's paintings.

I do not see them in Media as acceptable.

 

[daredevil]

It has already been mentioend, that there is a section of the shia muslim minority which approves of such images. Which is why in Iran, you would find such images. However, other shias, and the vast majority of muslims condemn it, and would find it physically, mentally, emotionally repulsive to see a likeness of the prophet muhammad (whom we dont worship), even if it were an exact likeness.

If muslims were to peddle pictures of muhammad on street corners, sell statues and idols, making millions by exporting them to the west, then you could demand that we accept others making images and cartoons.

You commercialised your icons, along with teh christians. You sold them for profit, you commissioned artists to paint them. We did not initiate this.

How did we commercialise?. It is not like people have established companies to do just that. People print the picture of icons just as they would do for a Sachin or a Beckham.

 

[DarkStar]

I would agree with vindoh and flintock, if you're governement and courts think the same. It would be a bit disingenuous for us "outsiders" to go around lording it over Bharatiyas, over an issue that their supreme court has been so outspoken about.

 

[Neo]

Lol...I've been accused to be an Indian hiding behind a Pakistani flag...but a Hindu? Thats a first!

I'm born in a moderate sunni muslim family and I consider myself as an agnostic believer.
No offence taken.

 

[DarkStar]

neo are you a hindu if not then how can you give verdict's about its rules with such confidence the tea & 3 shammi kabab for 40 (people) kitty parties of a particuler pseudo-intellectual muslims does not in any way qualify them to give fatwas regarding other peoples religions with such ease sorry sir but its true.

I'm not sure what verdict he gave. Flintock came with a list of ridiculous facts about muslims, why didn't you stop him there?

As for what Neo has said, there is plenty of evidence that suggests nudity was not seen as something taboo in ancient INdian, and Hindu scriputres, religion or culture.

 

[Flintlock]

It has already been mentioend, that there is a section of the shia muslim minority which approves of such images. Which is why in Iran, you would find such images. However, other shias, and the vast majority of muslims condemn it, and would find it physically, mentally, emotionally repulsive to see a likeness of the prophet muhammad (whom we dont worship), even if it were an exact likeness.

But that obviously contradicts Neo's post that the "basics" of Islam are consistent.

I agree that they are far more consistent than any other religion, but then for a religion that claims to be the only single truth, "almost consistent" is definitely not consistent enough.

If muslims were to peddle pictures of muhammad on street corners, sell statues and idols, making millions by exporting them to the west, then you could demand that we accept others making images and cartoons.

Muslims peddle copies of the Quran don't they? So now is it acceptable for me to write a "lewd" novel loosely based on the stories in the Quran and publicize it as art?

You commercialised your icons, along with teh christians. You sold them for profit, you commissioned artists to paint them. We did not initiate this.

You commercialized your holy book as well.

Also, your constipated point of view is not at all helpful.

 

[Neo]

I do not see them in Media as acceptable.

There you go!
Khumb Mela India: 60 million Filthy Naked Indian sadus - India Investing - Zimbio

 

[Goodperson]

Taslima can not be compared with Hussein, unlike the populist former the latter is an artist with no political agenda.

Compare Taslima with Salman Rushdie, not with Hussein.

Isn't it ironic that India functions perfactly as a safe heaven for a muslim critic but fails to persuade Hussein to continue his work in India?

Both Nasreen and Hussain are artiste even Rushdie is an artiste India was one of the first countries to ban Rusdies book.
All of them hurt religious sentiments of people for their gain.

Now India being Secular Democratic country allows them to do so,(Rusdie did not write the book in India)

Hussain is welcome to comeback but fears for his life. GoI, Courts or artisites are not stopping but perhaps his conscience is stopping him.

 

[Flintlock]

Well, Tasleema Nasreen and Rushdie gained a lot from the sorts of reactions that came from muslims. Maybe if the condemnations hadn't been so forthright, no one would have known who these two hithertoo obscure and not very good writers were.

Well that's entirely subjective. A lot of people who know far more about literature than the both of us combined seem to think that Rushdie is a phenomenal author.

Tasleem Nasreen has definitely gained from the publicity, but that does not necessarily mean that she deliberately wrote about a controversial topic in order to get publicity. Correlation does not equal consequence.

 

[Vinod2070]

It has already been mentioend, that there is a section of the shia muslim minority which approves of such images. Which is why in Iran, you would find such images. However, other shias, and the vast majority of muslims condemn it, and would find it physically, mentally, emotionally repulsive to see a likeness of the prophet muhammad (whom we dont worship), even if it were an exact likeness.

If muslims were to peddle pictures of muhammad on street corners, sell statues and idols, making millions by exporting them to the west, then you could demand that we accept others making images and cartoons.

You commercialised your icons, along with teh christians. You sold them for profit, you commissioned artists to paint them. We did not initiate this.

That is a unilateral assumption that other need to only follow what the followers of one religion do.

What is missing is the concept of the golden rule: "Do unto others as you want them to do unto you".

Simple it is, respect others and get respect in return.

 

[Goodperson]

There you go!
Khumb Mela India: 60 million ****** Naked Indian sadus - India Investing - Zimbio

I said in the context of Hussains paintings.

Other reports which you just pointed do appear in media.

 

[Imran Khan]

Lol...I've been accused to be an Indian hiding behind a Pakistani flag...but a Hindu? Thats a first!

I'm born in a moderate sunni muslim family and I consider myself as an agnostic believer.
No offence taken.

no prob neo i think now you realy a big man of pakistan because we accused our all big minds hindu raw agent or mussad agent


long live neo

 

[DarkStar]

But that obviously contradicts Neo's post that the "basics" of Islam are consistent.

I agree that they are far more consistent than any other religion, but then for a religion that claims to be the only single truth, "almost consistent" is definitely not consistent enough.



Muslims peddle copies of the Quran don't they? So now is it acceptable for me to write a "lewd" novel loosely based on the stories in the Quran and publicize it as art?

yes, you may do so. it has already been done, countless times.

You commercialized your holy book as well.

Yes, and there are many books criticising the quran, many books written that try to debunk its claims. you're free to do so too.

Also, your constipated point of view is not at all helpful.

ditto

 

[Imran Khan]

sir neo before you post this link you have to write only for 18+ i am little boy to see these images