Ammo Dump Up In Flames, Anantnag under emergency

[Keysersoze]

17 firefighters? One civilian? Don't tell me that they are Indians and thus deserve to die by some weird moral standards.

Btw...the army claims that the fire was accidental. So don't celebrate your "victory" too early.

The question here has to be asked.......What the hell are firefighters trying to do at a ammo dump fire? In situations of this nature the best thing to do is evacuate and let it burn itself out.

 

[Marathaman]

The question here has to be asked.......What the hell are firefighters trying to do at a ammo dump fire? In situations of this nature the best thing to do is evacuate and let it burn itself out.

That is truly absurd. Don't try to change the topic by using illogical arguments.

The rockets were exploding kilometers from the depot. They had to try and control it or it would have caused carnage.

 

[Marathaman]

oh dear good to see you speaking against terrorists but if indians are against terrorists so what they are doing in kashmir hannn. then you people should buzz off from there...as people of kashmir consider indians as terrorist ok.

The people of Kashmir support India. They are indians and will fight the Pakistani infiltrators to the last.

 

[Marathaman]

I do not celebrate death of people nor do I express any glee over the death of your soldiers. I support it however as your government has put them there to kill and subdue our people and our people, the Kashmiris, are not terrorists.

Our soldiers are there to protect the Kashmiris from the scourge of Pakistani terrorism. Pakistanis have incited hatred within their own people and have been brainwashing some unemployed kashmiri youths to take up arms as well.

If you really care about the future of kashmiris, stop supporting terrorist organizations.

 

[EagleEyes]

The people of Kashmir support India. They are indians and will fight the Pakistani infiltrators to the last.

Why do they ask for weapons, and tell us they are Pakistanis?

Stop living in a delusional society. People of Kashmir dont support India.

As for your above comments. We are not supporting terrorist organization, stop calling the people you occupied terrorists. Pakistan at every step must support the people of Kashmir in the struggle of liberation.

 

[Marathaman]

Why do they ask for weapons, and tell us they are Pakistanis?

I think its you who is delusional. Kashmiris do not consider themselves Pakistanis.
They hate Pakistanis because of the hardship that the infiltrators have caused them since 1989.

It is a very evil game that is being played by Pakistan. They create chaos in Kashmir, thus halting any industrial progress or infrastructure being created. The unemployed youth are then disenchanted and are lured to take up arms.

If you care about kashmiris, do what is best for them. Stop supporting the terrorists.

As for your above comments. We are not supporting terrorist organization, stop calling the people you occupied terrorists. Pakistan at every step must support the people of Kashmir in the struggle of liberation.

We have not occupied kashmir. It belongs to india and will remain this way.
Kashmiris are not terrorists. They are being manipulated and their lives are being destroyed by terrorists trained in Pakistan.

Pakistan must stop its obsession with kashmir and concentrate on solving its internal problems.
Leave the kashmiris alone. They will do well under india. They will see immense prosperity in the coming years, if peace is allowed to prevail in the valley.
Unfortunately, the sadist pakistani terrorists don't want this to happen. They want to create a jihadi and radical islamic population which will destroy itself from within, the way taliban did.

 

[Awesome]

Agreed you're on the internet but you've thrown truth out of the window like we won't be able to prove it?

Actually you're new I've already shown the 'light' to all of your other Indian friends but anyway here's some recaps for you:

Pakistani anthem becomes popular in Indian occupied Kashmir
Pakistan Times Kashmir Desk

ISLAMABAD: The Pakistani National Anthem is becoming quite popular in Indian Held Kashmir, thanks to the growing number of cell phone users choosing it as their ring-tones.

The Indian National Anthem has never been popular in the Valley.

Students say they've got the ring tone from their Pakistani friends. "I received it from one of my friends in Srinagar," Feroz Ahmad told the Times of India. Feroz a professional in his twenties had got it from a friend, and all of them keep passing it on to other friends.

Pak Sar Zameen Shaad Baad (Blessed Be The Sacred Land), the Pakistani anthem, is preferred in Kashmir to the Indian National Anthem, says Aaftab Wani, an unemployed youth.

Giving reasons of popularity of Pak Anthem he says, because they never learnt about it in school and anti-India feelings are growing.

Above all, Kashmiris have a soft corner for Pakistan, because in a demographic and religious sense, they relate to their neighbour (Pakistan) more closely.●

http://pakistantimes.net/2004/10/12/kashmir3.htm

And before you diss the Pakistani news source heres the Indian one

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/865206.cms

So explain to me how exactly do the Kashmiris hate Pakistanis when the mobile ring tone of choice states "Pak sar zameen Shaad baad". Pakistan is the Kashmiri sar zameen! Go back to India and get reacquainted with the reality of Kashmir and what they think of Indian soldiers.

So your reality shattered yet? I got more, but I'll save it one per every denial you utter .

 

[Marathaman]

There is no need to deny reality. Some misguided youths are definitely feeling alienated from India. We cannot blame them, considering the hardship that they have been through due to the militancy instigated by Pakistan.

Another reason for their "soft corner" for pakistan is religion. This is not confined to Kashmir. It is quite common in the rest of India as well. Lots of muslims in India support Pakistan cricket team when it is not playing against india. This doesn't make them enemies of India.

The indian government needs to acquaint them with the realities of today's Pakistan. When this is done, they shall realize that being Indian is a much better option for them in every aspect of their lives. It shall ensure a prosperous life, and a healthy democratic process.
Being part of India will give the Kashmiris a say in world affairs, as India's stature in the world grows.

 

[Awesome]

SOME?

Dude Kashmir is majority Muslim. The majority in Kashmir holds the same Pakistani culture. The majority in Kashmir honors the Pakistani national anthem. They hoist Pakistani flags in Kashmir! Indian rule is so lame they termed the Islamabad district to their ancient times names when Hindus were the majority there - to Anantnag district. That's the level of complex Indians have with Kashmir's associations with Pakistan.

Kashmiris still call it Islamabad district. .

So going by your argument, the majority in Kashmir supports Pakistan? The majority wins, you lose, leave.

 

[Marathaman]

SOME?

Dude Kashmir is majority Muslim. The majority in Kashmir holds the same Pakistani culture. The majority in Kashmir honors the Pakistani national anthem. They hoist Pakistani flags in Kashmir! Indian rule is so lame they termed the Islamabad district to their ancient times names when Hindus were the majority there - to Anantnag district. That's the level of complex Indians have with Kashmir's associations with Pakistan.

Kashmiris still call it Islamabad district. .

So going by your argument, the majority in Kashmir supports Pakistan? The majority wins, you lose, leave.

The majority of Kashmiris are loyal to India. Surveys conducted among them prove this point.

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/polls/2002/kashmir.shtml

As I said, some misguided and unemployed (hence frustrated) youths might have a "soft corner" for Pakistan, but a good education and a quick reality check will convince them otherwise.

Kashmiris don't have "Pakistani culture". They have their own unique kashmiri culture, which is well preserved and encouraged under India.

Here's a Pakistani spokesperson denying that kashmir was ever an integral part of pakistan

 

[Cheetah786]

The people of Kashmir support India. They are indians and will fight the Pakistani infiltrators to the last.

if they support india why do u have 700,000 army personal stationed there.u have nothing to worry about then do u.

 

[joey]

if they support india why do u have 700,000 army personal stationed there.u have nothing to worry about then do u.

And you are guaranteeing that there will be no influx of cross-border-movements? who will tackle them? the civilians? or you want us to let you run a free hand in police-army free kashmir so that after a decade there becomes a few succesful students replicating the ones who threatened Pakistans owns internal security...

Marathaman do you realise that your argueing with someone who has atleast repeated the same arguments over 4 times, instead of being corrected atleast 2 times.

 

[Marathaman]

if they support india why do u have 700,000 army personal stationed there.u have nothing to worry about then do u.

The troops are stationed to protect the Kashmiris from mindless violence perpetrated by various insurgent groups supported by Pakistan.
These troops are also stationed as a deterrent against an invasion by Pakistan, which has already happened on atleast 2 occasions.

However, the government has decided to reduce troop levels in kashmir, in order to better organize the counter insurgency operations and because it is now better prepared to mobilize troops quickly.

 

[Keysersoze]

That is truly absurd. Don't try to change the topic by using illogical arguments.

The rockets were exploding kilometers from the depot. They had to try and control it or it would have caused carnage.

Errr you seem to want to start arguments with everyone..... but since I have talked to some fire-fighter friends who agreed with me that you DON'T try to put out a fire when there is a high likelihood of explosions. (never mind devices that are designed to kill)

Also there seems to be a bit of a history of incompetence when running Ammunition dumps ....(there are a few more that I couldn't find )

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010525/main1.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/733374.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/729992.stm

 

[Marathaman]

Errr you seem to want to start arguments with everyone..... but since I have talked to some fire-fighter friends who agreed with me that you DON'T try to put out a fire when there is a high likelihood of explosions. (never mind devices that are designed to kill)

Also there seems to be a bit of a history of incompetence when running Ammunition dumps ....(there are a few more that I couldn't find )

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010525/main1.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/733374.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/729992.stm

Yes, the Indian army has been mismanaged of late, and this is one of the areas.

However, I ams still not convinced that the fire must be allowed to burn out.
If there is a chance of doing so, the fire must be put out immediately.
A sustained period of haywire bombs raining down from the sky isn't something we need.