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NATO is getting mad because of shortage of breads and cigarettes 
American attack aftermath: Pakistan declares attack a 'plot'
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NATO is getting mad because of shortage of breads and cigarettes
wrong...its the shortage of booze thats making them mad
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Things are about to get Worse for NATO/US in Afg , They have no ideas what is coming towards them , or may be they do & have decided to close their eyes & pretend every thing is fine (as they always do)
Wait till 11 December before passing your pessimistic comments.
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If it is true then Pak should take action and destroy them. Pull out of the War of Terror and leave America and NATO to be kicked out by the Taliban.
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Ever thought about it from the other way around? Have you any idea what is coming towards you??
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1. I think Pakistan has rail line upto Abottabad, after Abottabad there is dangerous road(i saw that in Al Jazeera) upto Kashgar and after Kashgar there is direct rail line to Eastern China.
2. Other thing Azerbaijan are also inclined to Turkey which is NATO member which they have influence and they are currently allowing the transit route.
3. Please read this articles dated:- 28th November 2011. Afghanistan: NDN Finding Reverse Gear | EurasiaNet.org
Although Iran, China and Russia are skeptical of US butChinese are concerned about Uighur militants getting safe heaven in unstable Afghanistan, Russians are also cared about same and Iran cares more about Shia Hazaras. Abrupt withdrawal of US would mean leaving a dangerous country for all neighbours. But they won't allow US to stay after 2014.
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NATO says Pakistan resumes some cooperation by preventing Afghanistan border incident
KABUL, Afghanistan Pakistan resumed some cooperation with U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan following NATO strikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers by working with the coalition to prevent another cross-border incident from escalating, a spokesman said Wednesday.
The airstrikes have severely strained the already troubled relationship between Pakistan and the U.S., jeopardizing Washingtons hopes of enlisting Islamabads support in winding down the Afghan war.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
Pakistan is still outraged by the soldiers deaths and has retaliated by closing its Afghan border crossings to NATO supplies, demanding the U.S. vacate an air base used by American drones and boycotting an international conference aimed at stabilizing Afghanistan.
But NATO said Islamabad communicated with the alliance to prevent an exchange of artillery fire late Tuesday from turning into another international incident.
German Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, a NATO spokesman in Kabul, expressed hope that Pakistans cooperation in resolving the incident in eastern Afghanistans Paktia province signaled the two sides could recover from the recent tragedy. He did not provide more details about targets or who was doing the shooting but said no damage or injuries were reported.
We are continuing operations and it is of great importance that the incidents of Saturday, as tragic as they were, do not disrupt our capability to operate in the border area and cooperate with the Pakistani side, said Jacobson.
The Pakistani military did not immediately respond to request for comment on the latest incident.
Pakistani and American officials have offered different accounts of how NATO aircraft attacked two Pakistan army posts before dawn Saturday. But it seems clear that a breakdown in communication contributed to the tragedy.
According to U.S. military records described to The Associated Press, the incident occurred when a joint U.S. and Afghan patrol requested backup after being hit by mortar and small arms fire by Taliban militants. Before responding, the joint U.S.-Afghan patrol first checked with the Pakistani army, which reported it had no troops in the area, the military account said.
Pakistani officials have refuted this claim and said U.S. forces must have known they were attacking Pakistani soldiers because the posts were clearly marked on maps given to NATO and the two sides were in contact immediately before and during the airstrikes.
Pentagon press secretary George Little disputed suggestions that the attack on the Pakistani troops was deliberate.
In no way, shape or form should this be construed as in intentional attack on Pakistan by the United States. That is simply incorrect, Little told reporters in Washington.
The Pakistan army on Wednesday released photographs and video of the posts that were attacked in the Mohmand tribal area. The images show small, damaged structures made out of stacked gray stones perched on a steep, barren mountain ridge. A white flag flew next to one of the posts.
Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said he rejected person pleas from the Afghan president and the German chancellor to reconsider Islamabads decision to boycott the conference Monday in Bonn, Germany, on Afghanistan.
Few had high expectations for the conference, but the absence of Pakistan will make even minor progress more difficult. The Taliban called the conference an American trap and a plot to further ensnare Afghanistan into the flames of occupation in statement posted on its website Wednesday, according to Site Monitoring Services, a U.S.-based group that tracks militant websites.
Pakistan and Afghanistan have long had a strained relationship even though the two countries have ethnic and cultural similarities. Islamabad is angry at Kabul because the NATO aircraft that carried out the strikes that killed its soldiers were based in Afghanistan.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( K.M.Chaudary / Associated Press ) - Pakistani students burn a representation of a US flag during a rally against NATO strikes on Pakistani troops, in Lahore, Pakistan on Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011. Pakistan has withdrawn from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( K.M.Chaudary / Associated Press ) - Pakistan students rally against NATO strikes on Pakistani troops, in Lahore, Pakistan on Wednesday, Nov 30, 2011. Pakistan has withdrawn from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war. Placard on left reads Go Zardari.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo provided by Pakistans Inter Services Public Relations department, smoke rises after a reported NATO airstrike in Pakistans tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
Afghan land has been used against Pakistan, and we are protesting against this, Gilani told reporters in the southern city of Karachi. We dont want the land of our brother country, which is like a twin, to be used against Pakistan.
Pakistanis have staged small rallies protesting the strikes in the countrys major cities, many of them organized by anti-U.S. Islamist parties.
Re-establishing a workable relationship between Pakistan, Afghanistan and the U.S. is important because Islamabad is critical to the process of peace negotiations with the Taliban. Pakistan has historical ties with the group and is seen as the actor with the greatest leverage to push the Taliban to the negotiating table.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai moved forward with those efforts Wednesday, meeting with members of a council he set up to broker peace with the Taliban and reiterating the need for honest cooperation with Pakistan for providing opportunities for negotiation with the opposition.
Karzai also told members of the peace council that he was in favor of changing the panels composition to include more individuals who might be able to bridge the divide between the insurgents and the government. Tribal leaders, religious figures and clerics also should be given more opportunity to assist with the peace process, Karzai told them.
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Khan reported from Karachi, Pakistan. Associated Press writers Sebastian Abbot in Islamabad and Lolita Baldor in Washington contributed to this report.
NATO says Pakistan resumes some cooperation by preventing Afghanistan border incident - The Washington Post
KABUL, Afghanistan Pakistan resumed some cooperation with U.S.-led forces in Afghanistan following NATO strikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers by working with the coalition to prevent another cross-border incident from escalating, a spokesman said Wednesday.
The airstrikes have severely strained the already troubled relationship between Pakistan and the U.S., jeopardizing Washingtons hopes of enlisting Islamabads support in winding down the Afghan war.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
Pakistan is still outraged by the soldiers deaths and has retaliated by closing its Afghan border crossings to NATO supplies, demanding the U.S. vacate an air base used by American drones and boycotting an international conference aimed at stabilizing Afghanistan.
But NATO said Islamabad communicated with the alliance to prevent an exchange of artillery fire late Tuesday from turning into another international incident.
German Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, a NATO spokesman in Kabul, expressed hope that Pakistans cooperation in resolving the incident in eastern Afghanistans Paktia province signaled the two sides could recover from the recent tragedy. He did not provide more details about targets or who was doing the shooting but said no damage or injuries were reported.
We are continuing operations and it is of great importance that the incidents of Saturday, as tragic as they were, do not disrupt our capability to operate in the border area and cooperate with the Pakistani side, said Jacobson.
The Pakistani military did not immediately respond to request for comment on the latest incident.
Pakistani and American officials have offered different accounts of how NATO aircraft attacked two Pakistan army posts before dawn Saturday. But it seems clear that a breakdown in communication contributed to the tragedy.
According to U.S. military records described to The Associated Press, the incident occurred when a joint U.S. and Afghan patrol requested backup after being hit by mortar and small arms fire by Taliban militants. Before responding, the joint U.S.-Afghan patrol first checked with the Pakistani army, which reported it had no troops in the area, the military account said.
Pakistani officials have refuted this claim and said U.S. forces must have known they were attacking Pakistani soldiers because the posts were clearly marked on maps given to NATO and the two sides were in contact immediately before and during the airstrikes.
Pentagon press secretary George Little disputed suggestions that the attack on the Pakistani troops was deliberate.
In no way, shape or form should this be construed as in intentional attack on Pakistan by the United States. That is simply incorrect, Little told reporters in Washington.
The Pakistan army on Wednesday released photographs and video of the posts that were attacked in the Mohmand tribal area. The images show small, damaged structures made out of stacked gray stones perched on a steep, barren mountain ridge. A white flag flew next to one of the posts.
Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said he rejected person pleas from the Afghan president and the German chancellor to reconsider Islamabads decision to boycott the conference Monday in Bonn, Germany, on Afghanistan.
Few had high expectations for the conference, but the absence of Pakistan will make even minor progress more difficult. The Taliban called the conference an American trap and a plot to further ensnare Afghanistan into the flames of occupation in statement posted on its website Wednesday, according to Site Monitoring Services, a U.S.-based group that tracks militant websites.
Pakistan and Afghanistan have long had a strained relationship even though the two countries have ethnic and cultural similarities. Islamabad is angry at Kabul because the NATO aircraft that carried out the strikes that killed its soldiers were based in Afghanistan.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( K.M.Chaudary / Associated Press ) - Pakistani students burn a representation of a US flag during a rally against NATO strikes on Pakistani troops, in Lahore, Pakistan on Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011. Pakistan has withdrawn from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( K.M.Chaudary / Associated Press ) - Pakistan students rally against NATO strikes on Pakistani troops, in Lahore, Pakistan on Wednesday, Nov 30, 2011. Pakistan has withdrawn from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war. Placard on left reads Go Zardari.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo provided by Pakistans Inter Services Public Relations department, smoke rises after a reported NATO airstrike in Pakistans tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
( Inter Services Public Relations Department / Associated Press ) - In this Nov. 26, 2011 photo released by Inter Services Public Relations department, a Pakistan army post reportedly targeted by NATO helicopters and resulting in the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers is seen in the Pakistani tribal area of Mohmand, along the Afghanistan border. Pakistan has withdrawn Wednesday, Nov. 30, 2011, from an international conference on stabilizing Afghanistan to protest the deadly attack by American forces on its troops, widening a fresh rupture in ties with a nominal ally that is endangering the U.S. plan for gradually ending the war.
Afghan land has been used against Pakistan, and we are protesting against this, Gilani told reporters in the southern city of Karachi. We dont want the land of our brother country, which is like a twin, to be used against Pakistan.
Pakistanis have staged small rallies protesting the strikes in the countrys major cities, many of them organized by anti-U.S. Islamist parties.
Re-establishing a workable relationship between Pakistan, Afghanistan and the U.S. is important because Islamabad is critical to the process of peace negotiations with the Taliban. Pakistan has historical ties with the group and is seen as the actor with the greatest leverage to push the Taliban to the negotiating table.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai moved forward with those efforts Wednesday, meeting with members of a council he set up to broker peace with the Taliban and reiterating the need for honest cooperation with Pakistan for providing opportunities for negotiation with the opposition.
Karzai also told members of the peace council that he was in favor of changing the panels composition to include more individuals who might be able to bridge the divide between the insurgents and the government. Tribal leaders, religious figures and clerics also should be given more opportunity to assist with the peace process, Karzai told them.
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Khan reported from Karachi, Pakistan. Associated Press writers Sebastian Abbot in Islamabad and Lolita Baldor in Washington contributed to this report.
NATO says Pakistan resumes some cooperation by preventing Afghanistan border incident - The Washington Post
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Oh Yes we do , We have been dealing with it for past 10 years , we lost more then 35,000 lives due it .
you on the other hand have been living a sweet dream fed to you by CNN,BBC , NYT & other news sources , you have not even 5% idea of what the true ground realities are .
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as per ISPR there was no clash between PA & NATO
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Pakistan's report clearly indicates that there was no 'fire' from either the posts or the immediate areas.
Any gunfire/artillery from the vicinity of the posts would have also raised the alarm at the Pakistani posts, which would appear to indicate the 'unofficial NATO version' of 'taking fire', right before calling for air strikes, in that particular area, is completely false.
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just saw people tweeting about another skirmish between NATO forces and PAK army.
what do these NATO monkeys want? WWIII ?
??????????
I think its the skirmish news ur talking about.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...preventing-afghanistan-borde.html#post2343904
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