What's new

ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

  • Yes

    Votes: 64 53.8%
  • No

    Votes: 55 46.2%

  • Total voters
    119
CJ Werleman is a CIA puppet who is trying in influence the thought patterns of American Muslims. This why our Muslim politicians and “leaders” loyal to the West quote him regularly.



We don’t have to walk the Western blueprints to speak up for Uyghurs.

There is a time and place for everything.

We can still talk to China and resolve these differences without turning them hostile towards us.



Great post.

I salute your sound analysis.

Everything is in its own context, and this Uyghur issue is in the context of Western fears of China’s rise and its alliance with Muslims.

They fear they will lose the power to subjugate Muslims as then we have other options besides the West.
west got its rise only through looting resources from third world countries mostly Muslim in Colonial period! and we, the Pakistan, made them superpower by fighting the Soviet Afghan war.

And now with our success in War on Terror and Afghanistan where we defeated 49 countries alliance with Afghan Taliban and through sheer Allah's help and Mullah Umer's greater Iman, patience and vision and now through CPEC and IBOR, they r seeing their miserable deaths right infront of them.....Thats why they wanna use our Muslim sentiments for their own goals and objectives by using us as a pawn!
 
.
It's for me only because i feel like i would be helping China commit this on Uighurs even if my contribution is extremely extremely insignificant.

Do you also boycott India, Israel, SL, US, UK, Australia, Burma, CAR, KSA, UAE, Germany, France?

These nations have done far worse things to Muslims and Muslim countries than China.

If India was giving money to Pakistan, these people would call Kashmir and what's happening in India as India's problem too and call Kashmiris separatists who should be dealt with iron fist.

What a ridiculous statement.

If I remember correctly, I think you were an enemy of Imran Khan, who is much stronger on kashmir than N and PPP.

I suppose there are no opression of Muslims in China, there are some troubles with Uighurs. Many of them were brainwashed by pseudo-Islamic terrorists organizations, same as people in Afganistan, Lybia, Sirya, Russian Northern Caucasus, former Soviet Central Asia and other places. I am glad China dealing with those poor people by education them that terrorism is not the best way to spend their lifes - it is better to get good profession and become successful and rich member of society.
And I am glad that many countries rise their word of support of Chinese noble attempts to stop those people from becoming a fuel of Western backed pseudo-Islamic destroying of nations and states.

These groups like Daesh/isis are funded and supported by the West, Israel, India for political objectives in Muslim countries.

It is part of the great game being played out to undermine Muslim independence with a combination of puppet dictators and destabilizing terrorist groups fighting against strong Muslim governments (like Pakistan, Turkey, and Iran.)

Daesh are not Muslims. They don’t follow Quran and Sunnah. They are Khawarij, which condemns all Muslims as worthy of being killed for not following their leaders.
 
.
You made some good points. But how does the West radicalise Chinese Uygurs muslims? lol The West isn't even Islamic. Moreover, do you mean other muslim countries like Turkey who have been supportive of the Uygurs issues are Pseudo Muslim countries?lol
Or you mean Saudi Arabia is the Western backed Pseudo Muslim country fuelling the Uygurs? Because if that's what you mean then you couldn't be more wrong, just ask Chinese members on here. KSA(along with some few gulf states) has been one of the staunchest supporter of China's policies in Xijiang. Others like Indonesia who have criticised China's policies in Xijiang against the Uygurs. So are they also Western backed Pseudo Islamic country who are pushed by the West to condemn China? :cheesy: etc. There are many other countries i can go on and on who have either taken China's stance, remain neutral or silent or speak up against.
So tell me exactly which countries you refer to when you say western backed Pseudo Islamic countries. Please tell me who are the 'REAL MUSLIM' countries. :partay:
Islamic State is the archetypal pseudo Islamic terrorist organization propped up by western, Israeli and now Indian intelligence agencies. This isn't a conspiracy theory. This is a fact.
 
.
Shivers? Not really. I wasn't denying the power of China and threat it poses to West but it's not the end of the world for them is my point. Anyway, i digress. Shouldn't even have touched on this.




So now you backtrack from your statement that Chinese have never done anything against Islam?




Have I said anything about West loving Muslims? I even agree with you they've shed Muslim blood.

I agree that US has an agenda. US isn't a fan of China, no doubt.

But that still doesn't mean China isn't doing oppression on Uighurs. It's just convenient for US that they found this.

There are undeniable facts and even statements from China itself now that prove this is a horrible horrible reality for Uighurs.

If you think it's all lies then prove it. Show evidence to the contrary. Stop hiding behind West hates Muslims.



This is the 4th or 5th time you've said this. It doesn't matter, Erdogan isn't Muslims Khalifa. He spoke against Chinese and i respect him immensely for that then he got bullied and changed his stance slightly. Not a good thing but at least he spoke against it unlike the other Islamic leaders who reject it outright or feign ignorance.



My intention for boycott isn't to hurt China. I doubt i can even convince a single person.

It's for me only because i feel like i would be helping China commit this on Uighurs even if my contribution is extremely extremely insignificant.
You said ''It's just convenient for US that they found this.''

Actually thats not quit true......what im trying to convince u upon is that for their own benefit against the Chinese might and economic power, they want to use us as a pawn with this uygur issue.

As for China, when we talk to China abt this issue, which we have they say the same things which these western countries have been saying and their media which is 100% state controlled no matter what they claim it to be has been bombarding the World with for the past 19 years!

Generations have grown now in such an atmosphere mister, a child born in 2001 is now 19 years old.....in a few years he will be graduating from his university and will be doing the jobs in his governments, bureaucracy, politics, Think Tanks World organizations etc etc

What do u think, his opinion and knee jerk reaction will always be about Islam? Have u ever thought abt things this way?

Same goes for Chinese too, western media is seen in China as well. And now its no longer abt China, this has spread now in Sri Lanka, Myanmar Latin America and so on etc etc.....

This is just not about one or two countries or a single region anymore, its now a Global phenomenon. That is why i say, these western countries need to change their materialistic profit centric and driven and resource grabbing attitude completely and for that a total transformation is needed into their societies from within for their own sake, and then reverse completely this Hatred of Islam they have spread throughout the world including China.....So that we in long run stop the Chinese realistically from doing so.

Because let me be CLEAR HERE AINT NOBODY IS GONNA HELP THEM EVER AGAIN IN THE MUSLIM WORLD BY AND LARGE. ONLY HOPE THEY HAVE LEFT IS MERE DAESH IN AFGHANISTAN ETC OR MAYBE AL QAEDA, these r just the dirty actors they have left to play whom they can use like how a puppeteer controls his puppets.


here watch this documentary abt this trade war with China to get a proper and deeper understanding of what i have written above!

These lazy dumb and fat Americans who r used of subjugating the World and through Global Monopolistic system are now too scared to compete with China on Economic front! because they r just too used to of subjecting others and doing business through monopolies without competition. Thats why they r asking for a regime change in China (see Hong Kong) and breakup of China (Uyghur issue)......

These r their dirty ways and under the table tactics to get the job done! Now see things in this prospective!
 
.
IS or Daesh routinely demand the destruction of all Muslim nation states under the false pretext of supporting a caliphate. They openly butcher Muslim groups who strive for strong independent Muslim nation states or even a true super-state, and they rarely attack non-Muslims except when they know the backlash will help their cause. Pay attention to what happens and who benefits from Daesh attacks. Look at the New developments in the subcontinent. Daesh has started attacks in Sri Lanka and Kashmir. In sl it knows the result will drive SL into India's hands and will cause problems for local Muslims. In Kashmir, under raw's direct control Daesh will attack armed freedom groups and Hindutva leaders will enjoy it as pseudomuslims do their dirty work. This is a shift in strategy learned from mossad and others. How does Daesh in the subcontinent help local muslims or the regional heavyweight (Pakistan) in any way?? Answer is: it doesn't. It does the polar opposite.

Do you think Muslims wish to live in nomad camps cut off from the world and modern technology? Do you honestly think Daesh is helping Muslims in any way?? Their idea of a caliphate is not the golden age of Andalusia or the ottomans or mughals - indeed Daesh would nuke such empires first and foremost. Daesh wants Muslims to live in tents and herd camels. This is why mossad, cia and raw love Daesh like crack cocaine. Daesh will do whatever they want, and keep Europe's, USA's and India's hands clean.
 
.
Its gonna be a tough time for you to get people to understand. People generally would reject and deny anything that opposes their beliefs. They will cherrypick what to believe and what not to. I hope your post makes some people see the hypocrisy.
common, we had talked about this u know very well why and how we feel western judochristian countries talking abt ''Muslim'' issues!
 
.
Islamic State is the archetypal pseudo Islamic terrorist organization propped up by western, Israeli and now Indian intelligence agencies. This isn't a conspiracy theory. This is a fact.

According to Western media propaganda which they feed to their countries and all over the world, Daesh are the true evil face of Islam, and the rest of us actual Muslims are fakes and pretending to be peaceful but actually secretly want to destroy them (just like Daesh.)

In actuality, it is the normative Islamic group consensus (Sunni + Shia) which determines who is included in the Islamic polity and who is not.

We are unanimous that Daesh are Khawarij, they are Non-Muslims who don’t follow the Quran/Sunnah, and also they are responsible for murdering Hazrat Ali RA, the fourth Khalifah of Islam and cousin/son-in-law of Muhammad SAW.

Enmity between Muslims and Khawarij is more than a thousand years old, and now the West, with Israel, have revived it to fight a ‘holy’ (actually unholy) war against us.
 
.
I have written "pseudo-Islamic organizations" not countries. May be you do not know but West have supported some ugly pseudo-Islamic organizations in Afghanistan, in Libya, in Syria, in former Yugoslavia, in Russian Muslim regions, and in Western China, too.
East Turkestan movement, TTP, Baloch terrorists, Norther Alliance etc etc and this Uygur leadership ie World Uyghur Congress which is washington based lol

and how can we forget the English Speaking Daesh transported into Afghanistan through unmarked Western made Helicopters!!!! lol

@DeadSparrow We cant blame Chinese for that, this hatred created by west through their media which has the global reach has led the whole of humanity to this day! When we talk to Chinese about such issues which BTW we have as well, they tell us the exact same thing......This phobia has come from the ruthless and false preaching of the western media being spread consistently from the last 19 years now! in the guise of fighting War and Terror, protecting their way of life, Freedom etc etc.

What u think if a Chinese citizen, Indian Citizen, Srilankan or Myanmese Citizen sees and thinks abt Islam and Muslims itself?

These other countries had never had any bad experience with Islam and Muslims as well.....But because of these western countries and their state policies they have brainwashed the entire World to hate Islam and Muslims.
I mean look, even these Latin Americans and Hispanic people who themselves have a Muslim Background from the 800 years of Muslim rule in Spain, r also hating Muslims and Islam, because they saw that in Western TV channels or in internet propagated by these judo-christian countries.

This is the the root cause of the problem! as long as this doesnt get addressed and there isnt a social change right within the Western countries, there is no way we can deal with that. Heck! these western countries dont even teach the colonial history nor crusades history nor War on terror history to their children, then how will that ever happen realistically to begin with?

Because these ''other countries'' do not have any such history(Crusades,Colonial,war on terror etc etc) to begin with.

That is why nobody takes the western propaganda seriously anymore specially in the Muslim World, be it about China or whatever else. Regardless of it being true or not.

yaad ha, bachpann main humne aik kahani sunni the, Sher aya Sher aya wali? k kaisy aik charwaha Gaon k logo ko bewakuf banata raha k Sher aa gya ha or usski bakrian khany laga ha, or villagers jab b usski madad k lea aaty the to wo unn pr hasta tha k mainy unnhain jhoot bol k bewakuf bana lia or phir jab aik din wakai sher aa gya orr usski bakria kha gya to wo cheekhta raha gaon k logo k aagy k sher aa gya ha orr usski bakrian kha gya ha orr goan walo main sy kisi ny b usski madad nai ki q k wo yahe samjhe k wo hamesha ki tarha iss bar bhi jhoot bol raha hoga q k wo jhoota ha or sher usski saari bakria kha gya??

Yaad ha ye story??

What was the moral of that story do u remember? K jhoot bolny waly ki baat par koi yakeen nahi karta q k wo khud apni credibility kho deta ha! Jhoot k paon nahi hoty .....iss lea kabhi jhoot na bolo!!!!

Bas yahe ho raha ha China or West k darmiyan, ajj west chahe jitna b sach bolta rahe, magar saari dunya ko pta chal chuka ha k wo jhoota ha or koi uss ki baat par yakeen nahi kar raha! iss lea koi b usska sath nahi deta China k against, ye Uygur Muslaman to sirf aik bahana ha! ye tumhe b pta ha orr mujhe b pta ha k West China to destroy karna chahta ha orr ye Chinese Muslims uss ki aik Shatir sazish ha!

Bas ye asal baat ha!
 
Last edited:
.
why do u western countries want us to be yr pawn in fighting yr battles, goals and objectives?
First in the name of establishing some tiny unnatural country like Israel made up of people from different parts of the world who dont even share anything in common but just a religious label, label because they dont even practice judaism in same manner as yr european Cousins, then making it powerful in the name of fighting ''Islamic'' terrorism, then Afghan Jihad against Soviet Union, then in the name of War on Terror? and now against China by using our Muslim sentiments?

Why are u so useless idiots that u cant even fight yr own battles yrself and r willing to die for yr own cause!
 
.
East Turkestan movement, TTP, Baloch terrorists, Norther Alliance etc etc and this Uygur leadership ie World Uyghur Congress which is washington based lol

and how can we forget the English Speaking Daesh transported into Afghanistan through unmarked Western made Helicopters!!!! lol

@DeadSparrow We cant blame Chinese for that, this hatred created by west through their media which has the global reach has led the whole of humanity to this day! When we talk to Chinese about such issues which BTW we have as well, they tell us the exact same thing......This phobia has come from the ruthless and false preaching of the western media being spread consistently from the last 19 years now! in the guise of fighting War and Terror, protecting their way of life, Freedom etc etc.

What u think if a Chinese citizen, Indian Citizen, Srilankan or Myanmese Citizen sees and thinks abt Islam and Muslims itself?

These other countries had never had any bad experience with Islam and Muslims as well.....But because of these western countries and their state policies they have brainwashed the entire World to hate Islam and Muslims.
I mean look, even these Latin Americans and Hispanic people who themselves have a Muslim Background from the 800 years of Muslim rule in Spain, r also hating Muslims and Islam, because they saw that in Western TV channels or in internet propagated by these judo-christian countries.

This is the the root cause of the problem! as long as this doesnt get addressed and there isnt a social change right within the Western countries, there is no way we can deal with that. Heck! these western countries dont even teach the colonial history nor crusades history nor War on terror history to their children, then how will that ever happen realistically to begin with?

Because these ''other countries'' do not have any such history(Crusades,Colonial,war on terror etc etc) to begin with.

That is why nobody takes the western propaganda seriously anymore specially in the Muslim World, be it about China or whatever else. Regardless of it being true or not.

yaad ha, bachpann main humne aik kahani sunni the, Sher aya Sher aya wali? k kaisy aik charwaha Gaon k logo ko bewakuf banata raha k Sher aa gya ha or usski bakrian khany laga ha, or villagers jab b usski madad k lea aaty the to wo unn pr hasta tha k mainy unnhain jhoot bol k bewakuf bana lia or phir jab aik din wakai sher aa gya orr usski bakria kha gya to wo cheekhta raha gaon k logo k aagy k sher aa gya ha orr usski bakrian kha gya ha orr goan walo main sy kisi ny b usski madad nai ki q k wo yahe samjhe k wo jhoota ha or sher usski saari bakria kha gya??

Yaad ha ye story??

What was the moral of that story do u remember? K jhoot bolny waly ki baat par koi yakeen nahi karta q k wo khud apni credibility kho deta ha! iss lea kabhi jhoot na bolo!!!!

Bas yahe ho raha ha China or West k darmiyan, ajj west chahe jitna b sach bolta rahe, magar saari dunya ko pta chal chuka ha k wo jhoota ha or koi uss ki baat par yakeen nahi kar raha! iss lea koi b usska sath nahi deta China k against, ye Uygur Muslaman to sirf aik bahana ha! ye tumhe b pta ha orr mujhe b pta ha k West China to destroy karna chahta ha orr ye Chinese Muslims uss ki aik Shatir sazish ha!

Bas ye asal baat ha!

Iss kahani me boht aala sabak he, agar hum samajne wale baney.

Musalman jo har jagga ghadda ke jehsey chalte he inn faasiqon ke kehney pe.

Samaj lo Kyu Quran me likha he ke faasiq ki baat kabhi na suno, ta ke tum bila waja Zulm na karo kissi pe.
 
.
Sir, with respect, this is the point. You cannot just brush all claims of "oppression of Muslim minorities" with the same brush. There is ample evidence of uighurs being uplifted, having improved living standards, and becoming wealthier since China began its anti-separatism drive. Their religious rights are equivalent to those of other religious groups in China - we have to accept that religion is a private matter there. This is totally different to Israel in Palestine, whose very DNA and right to ownership of their land and legacy is under threat from Netanyahu; likewise Kashmir, where the historic legal provisos for Kashmiri Muslims are threatened, not to mention the wave of anti-Muslim, anti-kashmiri and anti-beef-eating sentiment in india. Israel treats its Muslim minority as BENEATH the Jews. India treats its Muslim minority as BENEATH Hindus - congress and Gandhi were aberrations, RSS and BJP are the real face of hindustan. They have an agenda against MUSLIMS and against Muslims having any strength, whereas China has an agenda against separatism and are more than happy for Muslim communities to prosper. I would compare China's approach to that of Russia in the Caucasus. Israel and India are quite different entities.



Sir, with respect, what facts and proof do you have the average Uighur is doing better now? Have you heard of what the Turks have been saying? What the Indonesians are?
I do not care how similar or different the situation is.
If people are being forced to so called "vocational" camps. If children are being separated from mothers, and wives from their husbands. Then its "OPPRESSION" and God hates oppression, and I as a Muslim cannot say one form of oppression is better than another. I should rather question my morality and faith, if I lack the ability to decipher a wrong from the deception and lack the ability to question things and then stand on what is right.

We don’t have to walk the Western blueprints to speak up for Uyghurs.

There is a time and place for everything.

We can still talk to China and resolve these differences without turning them hostile towards us.


You will do diplomacy with an oppressor? Will try to negotiate sense into their brains filled with nonsense and lack of understanding of anything beyond the physical world they live in?

But then again, we are a country who are so cut off from our creator than we even get bullied by the likes of Afghanistan, completely dependent on other nations for our survival...let alone trying to stand up against an oppressor be it China or any other.
 
.
ASIA
37 Countries Including Large Muslim Majority Nations Support China’s Fight Against Terrorism
Written by Adam Garrie on 2019-07-13

Pakistan, Egypt, Algeria, the UAW, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Tajikistan are among the Muslim majority countries that have signed a letter in support of China’s counter-terrorism strategy and social development model in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. Additionally, The Philippines, Russia, Cuba, the DPRK, Angola, Togo, Belarus, Myanmar and Zimbabwe are among the 37 countries whose ambassadors have praised China’s approach to security and social harmony which aims to combat the three evils of separatism, terrorism and religious extremism through a combination of vigilant policing alongside free educational and vocational training for those who would have otherwise fallen victim to terrorist radicalisation and violence.

The global support for China’s progressive development and anti-terror model in Xinjiang is a clear indication that many nations seek to learn from China in respect of how to clamp down on extremism whilst elevating the prosperity and solidifying the social harmony of populations susceptible to terrorist infiltration.

The area that is today known as China’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region has for centuries been a place of political instability, warfare and has infamously played host to multiple geopolitical rivalries for a strategically located area that effectively divides east and central Asia. Located at the axis of multiple historic and contemporary trading routes, today’s Xinjiang is undergoing a period of intense economic development and social stability that has been erstwhile unknown in the modern era. To better address concerns within the wider Turkic and Muslim world regarding the contemporary state of Xinjiang, it is important to understand some of the key events in the region’s late modern history.

From the ancient period up until the 18th century, Xinjiang had been ruled by over a score of sovereigns including Han Chinese sovereigns, Mongol sovereigns, Turkic sovereigns and Turco-Mongol sovereigns. Beginning in 1759, China’s last imperial dynasty, the Qing consolidated rule over Xinjiang and oversaw demographic and cultural changes to a region where Han Chinese, Chinese Hui Muslims and Turkic Muslims shared a unique and often turbulent multi-cultural experience.

If Xinjiang’s incorporation into the Great Qing represented a late modern move towards political consolidation in the region, the contemporary history of Xinjiang begun in 1912 when China as a whole ended millennia of dynastic rule and became a Republic following the Xinhai Revolution which began the previous year.

Between 1912 and 1928, Xinjiang was paradoxically one of the more stable regions of the Republic of China. To understand why this is the case, it helps to recall that the young Republic of China experienced political shock after political shock during its first sixteen years of existence. These shocks can be summed up as follows:

1912: Nanjing based Republican revolutionary Sun Yat-Sen makes a pact with Yuan Shikai of the Beiyang Army to overthrow the Qing Emperor in exchange for giving Yuan the post-imperial presidency which would oversee a modern parliamentary system.

1913: Yuan effectively abolishes parliamentary institutions dominated by Sun’s Kuomintang (KMT) party. An anti-Yuan revolution that same year fails, resulting in the exile of Sun and the execution of Sun’s KMT colleague Song Jiaoren.

December 1915 – March 1916: Yuan crowns himself emperor although his rule lasts for around three months prior to his abdication which itself was shortly followed by his death in June of 2016.

1917: Sun returns to China setting up his first southern KMT government in Guangdong province. That same year, an attempt by Japanese friendly forces in Beiyang to restore the Qing Dynasty fails after twelve days.

1916-1928: This twelve year period recognised as beginning with Yuan’s death and ending with Northern Expedition of 1928 is known as China’s Warlord Period in which the country was divided between a fledgling northern warlord Beiyang government and a southern Nationalist Government led by the KMT under Chiang Kai-shek (which was in a temporary alliance with Communists from 1923 until 1927).

1927: The end of the KMT-Communist First United Front results in the beginning of China’s protracted Civil War

Xinjiang under Yang

While much of China’s coastal and near coastal regions were experiencing the political strife of the Warlord Era, regional sovereignty in Xinjiang remained comparatively stable. Between 1912 and 1928, Xinjiang was ruled by Governor Yang Zengxin, a man who openly professed loyalty to whichever war lord was the de-facto leader of the northern Beiyang government, but who in reality, was a highly autonomous ruler. During his time as Governor, he balanced the aspirations of both Han Chinese residents of Xinjiang against those of Turkic origin by allowing Hui Muslim Chinese to play a key role in his administration.

Yang’s period of rule is generally remembered as a placid one as he assured that the rights of all ethno-religious minorities were protected from the potential for mob violence, whilst unlike his most prominent successor, he was weary of entering into any partnerships with the Soviet Union which had long sought to exert its influence over Xinjiang.

Jin Shuren

Yang’s successor Jin Shuren governed Xinjiang between 1928 and 1933 and compared to his successor, he was known for a particularly harsh treatment of Turkic Muslims in the province. It was during this time that both Soviet and “stay behind” Russian White Army leaders began a period of intrigue into the affairs of Xinjiang.

Jin’s rule was blighted by the Kumul Rebellion which began in 1931. The Kumul Rebellion helps to illustrate that the political rivalries of pre-1949 Xinjiang were far more nuanced than rivalries between “monolithic” ethnic or religious groups. Instead, the power struggles which took place in Xinjiang during the 1930s and 1940s are more akin to inter-personal and intra-factional power struggles in which a competition for resources, influence and geopolitical prestige tended to trump unity among any particular ethnic or religious group.

As such, during the Kumul Rebellion Turkic Muslims allied with Hui Chinese Muslim General Ma Zhongying to topple Governor Jin. Making matters more complicated, the Nanjing government of Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek which putatively controlled a united China after 1928, played both sides against one another. Whilst publicly offering support to the embattled Jin, Chang’s government and army supported the rebellion due to suspicions that Jin was too close to a USSR government that had fallen out with Chang’s KMT.

During this rebellion, non-aligned groups of Turkic Muslims in the south of the province organised a rebellion of their own before briefly establishing the First East Turkistan Republic in 1933.

By the time that Chinese Nationalist forces loyal to Ma Zhongying proved victorious against rebels during the 1934 Battle of Kashgar, a new leader a new leader was busily consolidating his rule in Xinjiang.

Sheng Shicai

In 1933, Sheng Shicai was appointed leader (duban) of Xinjiang. With Jin now out of the picture and Ma having been effectively ostracised from Xinjiang in 1934 (after helping to end the First East Turkistan Republic and asssociated rebellions), Sheng sought to consolidate his own power. Sheng forged a powerful alliance with the Soviet Union and ruled Xinjiang as a nominally Chinese governor of Xinjiang but in reality, Xinjiang at this time became something of a Soviet satellite region within China’s borders.

During Sheng’s period of rule which lasted between 1933 and 1944, Xinjiang again went through a turbulent period. During his early rule of Xinjiang, Sheng worked to Sovietise the province which at first appeared to create an atmosphere of equality among all of Xinjiang’s diverse peoples. However, purges and suppression soon followed whilst the Chinese government of Chang could do little to attempt to bring Xinjiang back into the fold. This was primarily due to two factors: First of all, there was the ongoing rivalry between the KMT and the Communists (the first phase of China’s civil war) and secondly, there was the looming threat of full scale war between China and Japan which broke out in earnest in 1937. This war itself was easily foreseen as inevitable by many in China. The events in eastern China in 1937 help to explain why a Soviet invasion of Xinjiang beginning in the Spring of 1937, easily crushed a Turkic Muslim rebellion against Sheng. Although the anti-Sheng rebellion was backed by the KMT government, by now the Cheng’s Nationalist government clearly had other more pressing matters on its hands. At the time, the Nationalist government buried news of the Soviet-Sheng victory against KMT backed Turkic Islamic rebels due to Japanese attempts to use Sheng’s Soviet backed victory in propaganda efforts against China’s internationally recognised government.

To contextualise the events of the late 1930s, it is important to recall that in 1931, Japan had invaded the region of China then commonly known as Manchuria. Subsequent to the Japanese invasion of Manchuria, the Japanese occupiers set up a puppet regime in north-eastern China. It was therefore only a matter of time before China would need to focus its national struggle on liberating its territory from Japan. This reality solidified in Dcember of 1936 during an event known to history as the Xi’an Incident. During the Xi’an Incident, General Zhang Xueliang detained Chang and forced him to re-establish an alliance with his rival Communists that would act as a united front against further Japanese aggression. Thus, all of eastern China would from 1937 until 1945 be involved in a harrowing struggle of liberation against a savage multi-regional Japanese occupation.

Turning back to Sheng’s Xinjiang, with the Second World War now at its halfway point,1942 witnessed Sheng instigating a rapprochement with the Chinese government which was seen as troubling to his erstwhile Soviet masters. In October of 1943, the KMT sent a delegation to Xinjiang after which Sheng cooperated in the purging of largely pro-Soviet Chinese Communists from the province.

And yet, months later, after the Soviets prevailed in the Battle of Stalingrad, Sheng sought to re-establish good relations with Moscow but by now, Sheng was if anything distrusted more by the Soviets than by Chang’s KMT.

In September 1944, Sheng who was now again generally reconciled with the KMT, left his leadership post in Xinjiang and took a comparatively “safe” job as the KMT government’s Agriculture minister.

The Soviets switch sides

Whilst during the 1930s, the Soviets had helped Sheng to maintain his pseudo-Soviet puppet state much to the consternation of both the KMT and many groups of Islamic rebels, in 1944, the USSR switched sides and helped Turkic Muslims in Xinjiang to establish the Second East Turkestan Republic in the wake of the Ili Rebellion.

However, by 1949, the entirety of Xinjiang came under the consolidated control of the new People’s Republic of China, thus ending what remained of both KMT rule in Xinjiang as well as the fledgling Soviet backed East Turkestan Republic.

The People’s Republic of China and contemporary Xinjiang

Between 1912 and 1949, China experienced what can only be called multiple civil wars, in addition to simultaneously fighting one of the most brutal occupations in history at the hands of the Empire of Japan. In 1949, the People’s Republic of China at long last brought unity to the country whilst simultaneously ending the geopolitical dynamics which were pervasive in China’s Century of Humiliation.

In spite of China’s mid-20th century efforts to peacefully integrate Xinjiang into modern Chinese society, after the Sino-Soviet split of the early 1960s, Moscow began an active campaign which encouraged anti-state terrorism among the Turkic Muslims of Xinjiang. This culminated in the Sino-Soviet border conflict of 1969 which yet again saw Soviet aggression against Xinjiang.

The disputes arising from the conflict remained unsettled until the 1990s when Moscow and Beijing signed a border agreement which helped to pave the way for a golden era in neighbourly relations which continues to flourish in the 2000s.

But just when Moscow agreed to cease hostility against Xinjiang and renew what prior to the 20th century had largely been healthy relations with China, western actors began agitating for terrorism in Xinjiang as a means of weakening a Chinese economy which had witnessed miraculous development since the Reform and Opening Up of 1978.

2009-2019

2009 saw civil disturbances gripping Xinjiang at a time when such strife was becoming ever more common in places like Afghanistan and on the western borders of China’s all-weather friend Pakistan. In response, the Chinese government has prioritised economic investments, infrastructural development, education programmes, vocational training and counter-extremism education for the people of Xinjiang.

Sadly, many of these successful counter-extremist programmes which are in fact similar to those instigated in Pakistan’s Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, have been grossly misrepresented by some of the outside world. Yet as a result of China’s counter-terrorism policies, of all the borderland provinces in multiple Asian nations that have in the past been subject to political extremism, Xinjiang is among the most peaceful. By contrast, the Muslim minority in India is currently facing vastly higher amounts of strife at the hands of supporters of India’s ruling BJP than are the Muslims of Xinjiang.

Conclusion

It is understandable that Muslims in countries in which Islam is the faith of the majority should be troubled by the false information being spread by mainly western governments about Xinjiang. However, there is an easy way to break this cycle of suspicion. China continues to welcome peaceful international observers to Xinjiang in order to experience first hand how a province that experienced centuries of war and political instability is now at its most harmonious in modern history. Furthermore, a new bus service running from Xinjiang to Lahore will offer Pakistanis the opportunity to engage in ever more meaningful human-to-human contact with those in Xinjiang.

Such human-to-human contact should also be prioritised in respect of allowing citizens of the Republic of Turkey to see first hand what the reality is in Xinjiang. As positive relations between Ankara and Beijing continue to expand across a verity of sectors, it must certainly be contemplated that a summit between Chinese President Xi Jinping and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan could take place in Xinjiang which could foster both geopolitical harmony and a sense of fraternity among peoples whose shared history ought to be carried forward in a new era of win-win cooperation.

For Xinjiang peace has dawned after centuries of strife, all that remains is for the wider world to see this positive transformation.


Eurasia Future

Copyright © 2019 Eurasia Future.
 
.
You will do diplomacy with an oppressor?

Yes, you can advise your friend in a nice, persistent way without turning it into the West’s favorite zero-sum game like Syria, Yemen, and Libya.

There is no reason the West should be involved in our relationship with China. We are more than capable of looking after our own interests.

Furthermore, a new bus service running from Xinjiang to Lahore will offer Pakistanis the opportunity to engage in ever more meaningful human-to-human contact with those in Xinjiang.

This is really exciting. I look forward to one day visiting the region myself and seeing the great progress going on there.
 
.
This is called friends with benefits. I wish Bangladesh learnt the same from Rohingya piece of sh$t issue. Bangladesh learnt nothing from the ordeal.
 
.
Yes, you can advise your friend in a nice, persistent way without turning it into the West’s favorite zero-sum game like Syria, Yemen, and Libya.

There is no reason the West should be involved in our relationship with China. We are more than capable of looking after our own interests.
.


Alright, following your logic. Let's say your kid was being thrown into a forced vocational bla bla center by your oppressor friend. What will you do about it? Advise your friend in a nice persistent way while your kid is suffering and being oppressed?
If you won't and if you are fine with some one else's husband, wives, and children suffering. Then I can only feel sorry for you.

I don't care about what the west has to say.
What I care about is if we know there is a wrong being done, what we are going to do about it?
Support it?
And most of you pity able minds here, want to talk about why the west is talking about an issue, while evading the question, why are you not effing talking about it before even the west does?

You will pick the side of an oppressor just to show defiance to the west? What kind of effed up logic is that?
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom