ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[obj 705A]

NATO dogs can only bark while the Chinese caravan moves on.
for those crying over 37 contries supporting China... the voice of 22 whitey country is worth more than the voice of 37 countries that mostly arent white, and then they say they arent Racist, white supremacy has always been at the heart of western political thought.

 

[beijingwalker]

This is interesting.

China denied these pretty strongly as Western propaganda until Western propaganda showed satellite images of concentration camps increasing and expanding.
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China never said there are concentration camps in Xinjiang and China never said there are not correction and training, vocational schools in Xinjiang.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

My problem is not with China or Chinese people. My problem is with any kinds of oppression, and if China is the oppressor than its no different for me than the Israelis in Palestine or indian in Kashmir.

Sir, with respect, this is the point. You cannot just brush all claims of "oppression of Muslim minorities" with the same brush. There is ample evidence of uighurs being uplifted, having improved living standards, and becoming wealthier since China began its anti-separatism drive. Their religious rights are equivalent to those of other religious groups in China - we have to accept that religion is a private matter there. This is totally different to Israel in Palestine, whose very DNA and right to ownership of their land and legacy is under threat from Netanyahu; likewise Kashmir, where the historic legal provisos for Kashmiri Muslims are threatened, not to mention the wave of anti-Muslim, anti-kashmiri and anti-beef-eating sentiment in india. Israel treats its Muslim minority as BENEATH the Jews. India treats its Muslim minority as BENEATH Hindus - congress and Gandhi were aberrations, RSS and BJP are the real face of hindustan. They have an agenda against MUSLIMS and against Muslims having any strength, whereas China has an agenda against separatism and are more than happy for Muslim communities to prosper. I would compare China's approach to that of Russia in the Caucasus. Israel and India are quite different entities.

 

[American Pakistani]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1149801298511839232

The expression on Uighurs face if they could get to know about this would be like

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

But humanity still has hope and this world hasn't become hell yet. 22 countries spoke against the oppression just not a single Muslim one.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/10/un-unprecedented-joint-call-china-end-xinjiang-abuses

Muslims have 2 pending issues for half a century i.e. Kashmir and Palestine. How about west solve that first just to beg Muslim world approval?

South Sudan got independence within few months just cuz they were not Muslims but Kashmir and Palestine has been lingering and been left in the hands of beasts for decades, and they act surprise about Xinjiang province of China. Spare me from this hypocrisy, I'm not one is those foolish Muslim who will fall for this western and Indian political game of dividing Muslim world with China, a population of more than 3 billion people world wide.

 

[BL33D]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1149801298511839232

The expression on Uighurs face if they could get to know about this would be like

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

But humanity still has hope and this world hasn't become hell yet. 22 countries spoke against the oppression just not a single Muslim one.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/10/un-unprecedented-joint-call-china-end-xinjiang-abuses

Its gonna be a tough time for you to get people to understand. People generally would reject and deny anything that opposes their beliefs. They will cherrypick what to believe and what not to. I hope your post makes some people see the hypocrisy.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Lock this anti China thread. Muslims are fine in China, the only thing I found strange was banning Islamic names for kids like Islam, Muhammed, Madena etc... and Chinese muslims happily complied.

Ask the Chinese deputy mission to Pakistan (Muhammad) Lijian Zhao, who dropped Muhammed in his name and is now simply Lijian Zhao.

If the victims don't feel they are oppressed, leave them be. They even hold training camps. And recently, BBC went there and shot a video. All the people claimed they are happy (of course they were being monitored, but it's for their own safety).

 

[beijingwalker]

Ask the Chinese deputy mission to Pakistan (Muhammad) Lijian Zhao, who dropped Muhammed in his name and is now simply Lijian Zhao.

The most common Uighur name for men is 买买提, everyone in China knows this, I really doubt Muhammad was ever an Uighur name, in Uighur it's Mehmet 买买提


买买提 in different languages
【突厥语/波斯语】محمد Persian
【突厥语罗马字】Mehmet Latin
【维吾尔语】مۇھەممەد Uighur
【阿拉伯罗马字】Muhammad

 

[Chhatrapati]

The most common Uighur name for men is 买买提, everyone in China knows this, I really doubt Muhammad was ever an Uighur name, in Uighur it's Mehmet 买买提


买买提 in different languages
【突厥语/波斯语】محمد Persian
【突厥语罗马字】Mehmet Latin
【维吾尔语】مۇھەممەد Uighur
【阿拉伯罗马字】Muhammad

People should be free to name their kids whatever they want. It's not a matter of state affairs. This excuse is pathetic, so you have no words for Muhammad is that why you banned those names? Or because it's not a Chinese name?

 

[maximuswarrior]

People should be free to name their kids whatever they want. It's not a matter of state affairs. This excuse is pathetic, so you have no words for Muhammad is that why you banned those names? Or because it's not a Chinese name?

When will India stop oppressing Kashmiri Muslims?

On a different note, notice how vicious and repetitive this Western propaganda has become against China. The Western world keeps begging Islamic nations, where they have supported dictators and killed millions of Muslims, to be on their side to isolate and condemn China. These so-called champions of Muslims and human rights advocates are nowhere to be found in Iraq, Palestine and Kashmir. It is clear as daylight why these hypocrites literally beg on their knees to Islamic nations to condemn China.

Luckily there is still some level of sanity left. The Islamic nations won't condemn China for the sake of appeasing Western powers.

China and Islamic cultures have a lot in common. More so than the Western culture.

 

[beijingwalker]

People should be free to name their kids whatever they want. It's not a matter of state affairs. This excuse is pathetic, so you have no words for Muhammad is that why you banned those names? Or because it's not a Chinese name?

I don't know why they have to ban a name which doesn't exist in China, so this information itself is highly suspicious, I don't know if you can name your children whatever you want in China or not, no one I know did that, so I guess there must be certain laws concerning naming new borns.

 

[Globenim]

I do not have selective judgement actually - I try not to be a hypocrite.

So once upon a time when the "West" was once again unquestionably acting like total hypocrites and exactly opposite to the dishonest platitudes you preach and complain about over others (i.e. "non-Westerners") all the time, and you went out of your way to conceede some individual actually might have made a "questionable" decision, you want to tell us that suddenly clears you of being selective and hypocrite after dumping thousands of completely disingenious, biased and unobjective posts parotting, endorsing and desperatey defending the most blatant pro "Western" and exessively anti Chinese propaganda?

lol now thats some selectiveness.

Sound more like some trivial token post you only made because you are selfaware of your blatant hypocrisy and bias, that is only emphasized by the constant dishonesty and mental gymnastics you engage in to attack Western adversaries like China or defend the absurdest attacks on them.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I don't know why they have to ban a name which doesn't exist in China, so this information itself is highly suspicious, I don't know if you can name your children whatever you want in China or not, no one I know did that, so I guess there must be certain laws concerning naming new borns.

haha yeah sure. That's why the day China announce the ban of names, Chinese diplomat dropped the Muhammed in his name. Totally unrelated. How long can you close your eyes and say the world is dark?

 

[LeGenD]

So once upon a time when the "West" was once again unquestionably acting like total hypocrites and exactly opposite to the dishonest platitudes you preach and complain about over others (i.e. "non-Westerners") all the time, and you went out of your way to conceede some individual actually might have made a "questionable" decision, you want to tell us that suddenly clears you of being selective and hypocrite after dumping thousands of completely disingenious, biased and unobjective posts parotting, endorsing and desperatey defending the most blatant pro "Western" and exessively anti Chinese propaganda?

lol now thats some selectiveness.

Sound more like some trivial token post you only made because you are selfaware of your blatant hypocrisy and bias, that is only emphasized by the constant dishonesty and mental gymnastics you engage in to attack Western adversaries like China or defend the absurdest attacks on them.

Genius, I just posted a single example.

I have called out on Western hypocrisy in numerous posts throughout my posting history here. But I am not in the mood to prove to you anything. I neither serve US nor China.

And I am not interested in having an argument about treatment of Muslims in Xinjiang with Chinese members here. You will not understand, and will stick with your biases.

This isn't about fighting China or singling it out from among the countries who are oppressing Muslims; this is about Muslim Ummah having selective judgement in regards to assessing issues of Muslims around the world. This will have implications for issues of Muslims in other regions. Obviously others will take notes.

As for any issue, it can have a diplomatic solution. So sleep well.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Lock this anti China thread. Muslims are fine in China, the only thing I found strange was banning Islamic names for kids like Islam, Muhammed, Madena etc... and Chinese muslims happily complied.

Ask the Chinese deputy mission to Pakistan (Muhammad) Lijian Zhao, who dropped Muhammed in his name and is now simply Lijian Zhao.

If the victims don't feel they are oppressed, leave them be. They even hold training camps. And recently, BBC went there and shot a video. All the people claimed they are happy (of course they were being monitored, but it's for their own safety).

https://gulfnews.com/opinion/op-eds/renaming-spree-erasing-muslim-heritage-in-india-1.60422571

Look who is giving a lecture on respect for Islamic etymology.

An Indian politician recently wanted to drop his Muslim sounding name as he felt it compromised his family's safety in brahministan. Indian actors in years gone by have saffronised their names to improve their marketability.

India has supreme form in erasing Muslim heritage and names.

I have never heard of such things about the name Mohammed in China. For linguistic reasons Mohammed is contracted to Ma in hui community, but not because of some state sanctioned conspiracy against the word Mohammed, or some security risk of being called Mohammed.

Allahabad. Not pragyakargakargarmanagam.

 

[Globenim]

Genius, I just posted a single example.

I have called out on Western hypocrisy in numerous posts throughout my posting history here.

You mean "Called out" like that whitewashing of blatant hypocrisy in the organized "Western" propaganda as some individuals mishappen "decission", rather than a big organized farce, you just tried to pass of as proof of being "impartial"? lol

Well, genius, now I quoted two examples contradicting what you try to suggest your one token post disproves.

And I am not interested in having an argument about treatment of Muslims in Xinjiang with Chinese members here.
You will not understand, and will stick with your biases.

Sound like you just want to disregard the biggest group who has interest to refute and call out your biased and dishonest Western propaganda lies and distorted narratives aimed against them, because your agenda isnt about any sort of treatment of Muslims in China and you don't care what really is happens to them or not.

Its funny how you manage to flip flop between accussing others of bias and and denying selective judgement on your own, only to express the most blatant bias and selective judgement a second later or at the same time.

This isn't about fighting China;

Yeah like you usual almost daily routine of unobjective China bashing is what was it again? "Just tying to be objective"? lol.