ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[War Thunder]

this uygur thing is mostly exaggerated.......mostly from usual suspects like BBC etc....

and u need to read my post again, this isnt what im talking abt..... im talking abt their own credibility, the ones who r inventors of this Anti Muslim and Islam attitude! Ever Since Crusades fought 1000 years ago to Spain happened 500 years ago to Colonialism followed afterwards to Israel's inception to the Afghan Jihad to this war on Terror. And now to the New Zealand terrorist Attack where the attacker had filmed it and live streamed on his facebook account and 51 people had died there and 9 were Pakistanis! most from one Nationality in that attack.

And now these same western judochristian countries have come here to talk abt China and Uighurs with us, who had no history of any anti Muslim activity ever in their civilizational history, but now are brainwashed themselves after seeing their western media who has consistently created this deeply entranched hatred of Islam and Muslims in the Whole World just look at Myanmar, Mainland India, Latin America, Australia, New Zealand even Japan! Now any non muslim and non western citizen seeing such media, what u think he is be thinking abt Islam? since their media has global reach and has global presence through internet and now they expect us to comply with them? HOW LAUGHABLE!

This Hatred of Islam is REAL IN WEST! and nobody but them are responsible for that

What have they for Muslims to begin with? what is their own credibility to begin with? NOBODY IS STUPID IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE!

THEY DESTROYED THEIR CREDIBILITY AND NOW THEY R SEEN AS OUR ENEMIES! NOW NOBODY GIVE A F ABOUT THEM OR WHAT THEY SAY. THEY NEED TO LOOK INWARDS AND ITS THEM NOBODY ELSE WHO REQUIRE A COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION FROM WITHIN!

THEY HAVE BROUGHT THIS DAY ON THEMSELVES NOBODY ELSE CAN BE BLAMED FOR. AS FOR WORLD IS CONCERN, THEY KNOW SUN HAS SET ON WESTERN CIVILIZATION, AND NOW THEY ARE ALSO FEELING ISOLATED AND LEARNING IT THE HARD WAY.

Exaggerated? So it's fine to force people to brain washing camps as long as you don't "exaggerate it"?. And to not allow the wives and children of men who married Uighur girls?
Are the people complaining about their wives and children held in camps in China are all fake as well?

What exactly is the research of every one who is calling it exaggerated except blindly accepting the Chinese or pro Chinese narrative? What exactly are the facts on the ground?

West can go to hell for all I care. Who cares about the west?
My question is the actual topic and the lives of the people involved. I don't claim to know hard facts on the ground but if there is even 1% chance of this being true, then I will atleast carry enough faith to call an oppressor an oppressor, even if its the lowest state of faith.

I would rather have my government give me justification and reasoning for showing support to China on this matter, and convince me on it. Other nations on the list don't need to, because they are dictators, and my state got itself counted amongst them. Funny...

its all BS, there is no opression of muslims in China.

Ok Einstein. You seem so convinced with whatever "logic" you seem to follow.
Care to throw in some facts to convince me as well?

 

[CAN_TR]

there is saying in Farsi language, which goes as PROVE YR LOYALTY FIRST THEN CLAIM YR SHARE IN INHERITANCE!

Do u think, we cant see where this World Uyghur Congress is based at or whatever name of it is? Who is their pay master? Isnt that what Gullen does of FETO? arnt US his pay masters too where he is based in?

REMEMBER! these westerners judo christians dont actually care abt Muslims or any human rights, they r doing it for their own goals and objectives in mind, and r just using us Muslims as a pawn.

But Good thing is that, now nobody believes in them!

So after your logic, what India does to Kashmiris and their Muslim population, Israel does to Palestinians, and Myanmar does to Rohingya is also based on Western pay masters and the world should ignore it, right?

Buddy you can't cry about Kashmiris etc. and play "three monkeys" when it comes to Uyghurs, that is HYPOCRISY.
What in Sincan happens is not a Turkic or Muslim issue it's a humanitarian issue first.

China called Islam "mentally illness", just saying before you bombard me again with non relevant examples, only to please your business friends.

I'm out.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Exaggerated? So it's fine to force people to brain washing camps as long as you don't "exaggerate it"?. And to not allow the wives and children of men who married Uighur girls?
Are the people complaining about their wives and children held in camps in China are all fake as well?

What exactly is the research of every one who is calling it exaggerated except blindly accepting the Chinese or pro Chinese narrative? What exactly are the facts on the ground?

West can go to hell for all I care. Who cares about the west?
My question is the actual topic and the lives of the people involved. I don't claim to know hard facts on the ground but if there is even 1% chance of this being true, then I will atleast carry enough faith to call an oppressor an oppressor, even if its the lowest state of faith.

I would rather have my government give me justification and reasoning for showing support to China on this matter, and convince me on it. Other nations on the list don't need to, because they are dictators, and my state got itself counted amongst them. Funny...





Ok Einstein. You seem so convinced with whatever "logic" you seem to follow.
Care to throw in some facts to convince me as well?

So why is western *** on fire then?

Do u think, we cant see where this World Uyghur Congress is based at or whatever name of it is? Who is their pay master? Isnt that what Gullen does of FETO? arnt US his pay masters too where he is based in?


Even Erdogan - more related to uighurs by virtue of Turkic descent than any other Muslim or non-Muslim - has made it clear just this month that a solution to any outstanding difficulties is possible and that moreover, non-interested parties should not exploit this issue to push an anti-China agenda. There r far bigger things in play here mister!

But Good thing is that, now nobody believes in them!

 

[Ghost 125]

Ok Einstein. You seem so convinced with whatever "logic" you seem to follow.
Care to throw in some facts to convince me as well?

no i dont care, i am not here to convince you and i definitely dont argue with people who takes an insulting hostile stance at the start of conversation

 

[beijingwalker]

The OP is calling for boycotting Chinese goods? How many of your are gonna do this? Funny last time this boycotting Chinese goods campaign was made by India for China's support of Pakistan in UNSC, a couple of months later, some guys from Pakistan again are calling for boycotting Chinese goods. Do you really think China fears this kind of dumb childplays?

 

[War Thunder]

no i dont care, i am not here to convince you and i definitely dont argue with people who takes an insulting hostile stance at the start of conversation

Oh I am pretty hostile to any statement that starts and ends with words like "its all BS, there is no opression of muslims in China."
Without adding any logic or reasoning to back it up.

A person who is convinced with logic, will have the logic to explain it to others.
A blind follower or whose mind is controlled by whatever others say about an issue and he/she can't be bothered with independent research to convince their own selves is some one to be hostile about and feel sorry for

 

[beijingwalker]

So after your logic, what India does to Kashmiris and their Muslim population, Israel does to Palestinians, and Myanmar does to Rohingya is also based on Western pay masters and the world should ignore it, right?

Buddy you can't cry about Kashmiris etc. and play "three monkeys" when it comes to Uyghurs, that is HYPOCRISY.
What in Sincan happens is not a Turkic or Muslim issue it's a humanitarian issue first.

China called Islam "mentally illness", just saying before you bombard me again with non relevant examples, only to please your business friends.

I'm out.

Always want to ask why didn't Turkey join the western block to heckle China?

 

[War Thunder]

The OP is calling for boycotting Chinese goods? How many of your are gonna do this? Funny last time this boycotting Chinese goods campaign was made by India for China's support of Pakistan in UNSC, a couple of months later, some guys from Pakistan again are calling for boycotting Chinese goods. Do you really think China fears this kind of dumb childplays?

My problem is not with China or Chinese people. My problem is with any kinds of oppression, and if China is the oppressor than its no different for me than the Israelis in Palestine or indian in Kashmir.

 

[beijingwalker]

Some posters reaally talk tough here, but how many of you guys will follow the OP's advocacy to boycott Chinese porducts?

My problem is not with China or Chinese people. My problem is with any kinds of oppression, and if China is the oppressor than its no different for me than the Israelis in Palestine or indian in Kashmir.

China is not, they live a better life than most Muslims in Muslim majority countries, but if you just believe China is an oppressor anyway, you do have a problem with China and the Chinese people.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

So after your logic, what India does to Kashmiris and their Muslim population, Israel does to Palestinians, and Myanmar does to Rohingya is also based on Western pay masters and the world should ignore it, right?

Buddy you can't cry about Kashmiris etc. and play "three monkeys" when it comes to Uyghurs, that is HYPOCRISY.
What in Sincan happens is not a Turkic or Muslim issue it's a humanitarian issue first.

China called Islam "mentally illness", just saying before you bombard me again with non relevant examples, only to please your business friends.

I'm out.

read post no.17 where i have talked abt it in 2nd paragraph. Im talking abt their own credibility........no Palestinian or Kashmiri leadership lives in west its a fact....thats why they dont talk abt it.

they r talking abt islam as mental illness because of what the western media had been projecting Islam since 2001 at the Global Scale. Where even ''other'' countries like Myanmar, Srilanka r into Islamophobia too

And abt humanity, what im saying is that these westerners dont care abt it to begin with, they r just doing it so they can use our sentiments against them to fulfill their agenda. They want to use us as their pawn!

Thats what im saying.

 

[beijingwalker]

In recent months, boycotting Chinese goods seem to become a very popular catchphrase, India, US and now PDF..

 

[Dubious]

The smell of hypocrisy,... disgusting.

Sadly your own president didnt voice out...That gave the rest a reassurance it is ok..

 

[INS_Vikrant]

This just shows world respect raw strength and not some stupid soft power. We must be focused on increasing our economic and military might, then all these shenanigans on kashmir will drop dead.

 

[beijingwalker]

This just shows world respect raw strength and not some stupid soft power. We must be focused on increasing our economic and military might, then all these shenanigans on kashmir will drop dead.

No, they will come alive, truth or lies, with western anti India propaganda if your strength is about rivalling the west. that's waht happens to China , The eye of the western propaganda storm.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

The era of FITNA has dawned in which MONEY is the GOD and everything is for sale now including soul for the right price under the garb of 'interests'.

Hypocrisy and selective judgement galore.

New flood will come - painful smoke that will engulf the entire world in the last era before the hour.

big word for a yankee lover .