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[Umair Nawaz]

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These symbolic things and lollipop are hard to come by for Uighurs from Muslim nations.

Your logic is strange to me. So then tell me what has Pakistan done for Kashmir? What have we done for them except do lip service and "lollipop and symbolic things" and polish our politics.

kaka g! Pakistan has done a lot for Kashmir its just those things dont make into news....and im a Kashmiri myself from District Bagh AJK.

Dont talk abt things u have no idea about! Even Erdogan - more related to uighurs by virtue of Turkic descent than any other Muslim or non-Muslim - has made it clear just this month that a solution to any outstanding difficulties is possible and that moreover, non-interested parties should not exploit this issue to push an anti-China agenda.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

I wouldn't have any problem if such folks simply said "hey we wanna break up China, hence we support Uighur separatists".... However they pretend to care about human rights as the basis for their intervention, when there is as much evidence to counter their narrative as there is in favour of their narrative over human rights. China has solved the terrorist problem and at the same time there is evidence that uighurs standard of living has improved dramatically. So what are these pseudoliberals bleating about exactly, when as per their own standards of "human rights", their buddies in Israel and India are worsening things for Palestinians and Kashmiris respectively??

 

[fisher1]

Thanks OP for your opinion. Duly noted. Even Erdogan - more related to uighurs by virtue of Turkic descent than any other Muslim or non-Muslim - has made it clear just this month that a solution to any outstanding difficulties is possible and that moreover, non-interested parties should not exploit this issue to push an anti-China agenda.


Absolutely nailed it. Parties for independence and teary eyed CNN reports over south Sudan and east Timor - those great little basket case nations.

Not sure how much longer Kashmir has to wait.

And what nonsense that the USA or UN will ever bother pushing for a solution to Kashmir issue. It is purely a case of Pakistan generating enough geopolitical influence to force the issue through, no less than this will work.

That's not the argument. What's with the strawman-ing arguments.

He said the West is in no position to condemn China and has an agenda so we cannot believe them as their hands are full of Muslim blood.

But boy, do every Pakistani him included cheer up when the same West ie USA speaks up against India on Kashmir issues and it's irrelevant that their hands are full of Muslim blood.

Why the hypocrisy when it comes to China?

What saddens me the most is Muslims of all people viciously defend the Zalimeen and condemn the people who speak up against oppression.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

The Israeli pm no less now states openly that Palestinians are genetically excluded from Israel. He openly states that Palestinians have no genetic right to live in their lands and homes. Seriously. Wtf! He is laying down a prelude to forthcoming genetic, cultural or ethnic cleansing and pseudoliberals jump up and down over China.

This is the issue I have with western commentators who claim human rights as the basis for their dramas. Just come out and state clearly you wish to dismember China, instead of the false pretence, because then these commentators are rightly flagged up for double standards.

That's not the argument. What's with the strawman-ing arguments.

He said the West is in no position to condemn China and has an agenda so we cannot believe them as their hands are full of Muslim blood.

But boy, do every Pakistani him included cheer up when the same West ie USA speaks up against India on Kashmir issues and it's irrelevant that their hands are full of Muslim blood.

Why the hypocrisy when it comes to China?

What saddens me the most is Muslims of all people viciously defend the Zalimeen and condemn the people who speak up against oppression.

No sir I don't cheer up when the USA or UN or any of these frauds "speak up for Kashmir" because I am aware it is a fraud. Only Kashmir and pk can help Kashmiris. If USA or UN say anything remotely pro-Kashmir, I simply applaud it as a brief act of trolling against India but we are all well aware it has ZERO substance.

 

[fisher1]

The Israeli pm no less now states openly that Palestinians are genetically excluded from Israel. He openly states that Palestinians have no genetic right to live in their lands and homes. Seriously. Wtf! He is laying down a prelude to forthcoming genetic, cultural or ethnic cleansing and pseudoliberals jump up and down over China.

This is the issue I have with western commentators who claim human rights as the basis for their dramas. Just come out and state clearly you wish to dismember China, instead of the false pretence, because then these commentators are rightly flagged up for double standards.

Once again, that's irrelevant to the discussion.

The Muslim holocaust in China is real.

What West have done or do in other areas is irrelevant to the very horrible oppression China is doing.

And sadly this is a tactic that Pro-China people are using.

Issue of Uighurs come up. Oh look how West has done horrible to Muslims therefore, we can conclude that they're lying about Uighurs and have an agenda to dismantle China.

That's a very weak way to defend Chinese oppression.

These two are separate issues and one doesn't refute or prove another.

 

[beijingwalker]

Thank all the Muslim countries for their adamant support of China, screw the western propaganda, China is unstoppable, they eventually have to come back to this reality.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

A completely irrelevant post, using a completely irrelevant use of logic or should I say lack of logic?

-Muslims get victimized
-Some one speaks about them
-People supposed to speak about them, don't support the one who speaks about them but rather stand in support of the oppressor
-And then there are illogical people who construct an equation out of it, and blaming the west for standing up for human rights of Muslims, just because the dictatorship are following their own economic interests and their way to power?

Yes the west has their own agenda, but does it really take so much of an effort to see what is logical and what is right in a situation?

Where is your solution to the 1 million Muslims who are suffering? Or "Screw them", just because their freedom and rights to live as they wish are no longer in fashion anymore? And we will take the side of the oppressor just because its more beneficial to us?

this uygur thing is mostly exaggerated.......mostly from usual suspects like BBC etc....

and u need to read my post again, this isnt what im talking abt..... im talking abt their own credibility, the ones who r inventors of this Anti Muslim and Islam attitude! Ever Since Crusades fought 1000 years ago to Spain happened 500 years ago to Colonialism followed afterwards to Israel's inception to the Afghan Jihad to this war on Terror. And now to the New Zealand terrorist Attack where the attacker had filmed it and live streamed on his facebook account and 51 people had died there and 9 were Pakistanis! most from one Nationality in that attack.

And now these same western judochristian countries have come here to talk abt China and Uighurs with us, who had no history of any anti Muslim activity ever in their civilizational history, but now are brainwashed themselves after seeing their western media who has consistently created this deeply entranched hatred of Islam and Muslims in the Whole World just look at Myanmar, Mainland India, Latin America, Australia, New Zealand even Japan! Now any non muslim and non western citizen seeing such media, what u think he is be thinking abt Islam? since their media has global reach and has global presence through internet and now they expect us to comply with them? HOW LAUGHABLE!

This Hatred of Islam is REAL IN WEST! and nobody but them are responsible for that

What have they done for Muslims to begin with? what is their own credibility to begin with? NOBODY IS STUPID IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE!

THEY DESTROYED THEIR CREDIBILITY AND NOW THEY R SEEN AS OUR ENEMIES! NOW NOBODY GIVE A F ABOUT THEM OR WHAT THEY SAY. THEY NEED TO LOOK INWARDS AND ITS THEM NOBODY ELSE WHO REQUIRE A COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION FROM WITHIN!

THEY HAVE BROUGHT THIS DAY ON THEMSELVES NOBODY ELSE CAN BE BLAMED FOR. AS FOR WORLD IS CONCERN, THEY KNOW SUN HAS SET ON WESTERN CIVILIZATION, AND NOW THEY ARE ALSO FEELING ISOLATED AND LEARNING IT THE HARD WAY.

 

[CAN_TR]

The smell of hypocrisy,... disgusting.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

That's not the argument. What's with the strawman-ing arguments.

He said the West is in no position to condemn China and has an agenda so we cannot believe them as their hands are full of Muslim blood.

But boy, do every Pakistani him included cheer up when the same West ie USA speaks up against India on Kashmir issues and it's irrelevant that their hands are full of Muslim blood.

Why the hypocrisy when it comes to China?

What saddens me the most is Muslims of all people viciously defend the Zalimeen and condemn the people who speak up against oppression.

sorry mister! i never cheer abt UN or USA report abt Kashmir or whatever!

As i said! u have no idea what yr talking about! i know how International Relations Work! i never give two hoots abt Symbolic gestures, they never impressed me!

I look for concrete and REAL things

 

[beijingwalker]

What did the western block do when this happened? Dozens of people were killed in broad day light.

 

[Ghost 125]

its all BS, there is no opression of muslims in China.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

The smell of hypocrisy,... disgusting.

there is saying in Farsi language, which goes as PROVE YR LOYALTY FIRST THEN CLAIM YR SHARE IN INHERITANCE!

Do u think, we cant see where this World Uyghur Congress is based at or whatever name of it is? Who is their pay master? Isnt that what Gullen does of FETO? arnt US his pay masters too where he is based in?

REMEMBER! these westerners judo christians dont actually care abt Muslims or any human rights, they r doing it for their own goals and objectives in mind, and r just using us Muslims as a pawn.

But Good thing is that, now nobody believes in them!

 

[fisher1]

And now these same western judochristian countries have come here to talk abt China and Uighurs with us, who had no history of any anti Muslim activity ever in their civilizational history

Have you ever bothered to learn the history before making such claims?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China

You're also deluded that West is in some danger. China is not posing any existential threat to West.

Remember this verse of Holy Quran.

'O ye who believe! Be ye staunch in justice, witnesses for Allah, even though it be against yourselves or (your) parents or (your) kindred, whether (the case be of) a rich man or a poor man, for Allah is nearer unto both (them ye are). So follow not passion lest ye lapse (from truth) and if ye lapse or fall away, then lo! Allah is ever Informed of what ye do.
Surah An-Nisa (4:135)

Don't let your hatred of West blind you and become a supporter of Zalimeen.

 

[War Thunder]

Actually the point of such a post is that it highlights the SELECTIVITY of western interventions. East Timor, Kosovo, south Sudan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, xinjiang... western pseudoliberals are not actually interested in human rights as they are selective in their approach. And they make idiots out of the people who blindly follow their agenda.

I don't disagree to that mate. But the question is, what should I follow? The hypocrisy of my own country and other Muslim states then? And should I justify the hypocrisy by questioning the authenticity of those who actually did something "we" should have done?

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Have you ever bothered to learn the history before making such claims?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China

You're also deluded that West is in some danger. China is not posing any existential threat to West.

Remember this verse of Holy Quran.

'O ye who believe! Be ye staunch in justice, witnesses for Allah, even though it be against yourselves or (your) parents or (your) kindred, whether (the case be of) a rich man or a poor man, for Allah is nearer unto both (them ye are). So follow not passion lest ye lapse (from truth) and if ye lapse or fall away, then lo! Allah is ever Informed of what ye do.
Surah An-Nisa (4:135)

Don't let your hatred of West blind you and become a supporter of Zalimeen.

Sunshine!!! start learning International Relations and Strategic Studies to know why west shivers in the name of China

Wikipedia is NOT a source!!!! History of Islam is rather old yes....and in that period small little incidents may have happened yes but when u read history inorder to analyse it so u learn from it, u read and study it as a whole not by taking one or two incidents or a few incidents.

Whats happening right now in China is of a vast and bigger scale that has direct bearing on what west as been propagating since past 19 years.

Plz read my post fuly. I have explained it there.......

and about topic; Do u think, we cant see where this World Uyghur Congress is based at or whatever name of it is? Who is their pay master? Isnt that what Gullen does of FETO? arnt US his pay masters too where he is based in?

REMEMBER! these westerners judo christians dont actually care abt Muslims or any human rights, they r doing it for their own goals and objectives in mind, and r just using us Muslims as a pawn.

Even Erdogan - more related to uighurs by virtue of Turkic descent than any other Muslim or non-Muslim - has made it clear just this month that a solution to any outstanding difficulties is possible and that moreover, non-interested parties should not exploit this issue to push an anti-China agenda.

But Good thing is that, now nobody believes in them!