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[beijingwalker]

You are 1 of them who agreed that prayers (or any religious related thing) is not allowed in public building..You also agreed concentration camp is a public building. You also agreed these people live there!

So add that up = these "prisoners" are not allowed to pray for the number of weeks/ months/ years they are to be "trained" in these camps!

The same goes for the forced boarding schools which are again public buildings..

You see we Muslims pray 5x in ONE DAY (it is the base of our religion) and you not allowing them to do so coz of the rule of no prayers in public buildings...is equal to religious oppression ..in this regard of Islam!

Learn the basics before accusing another!

Learn to read in context! Context is
XINJIANG
UYGHUR people
ISLAM
CONCENTRATION CAMPS!

I am not talking about whole of China. I am not talking about other cases..I am also not talking about other people who can walk/ go home or to a mosque to pray! But these specific people who CAN NOT!

You claimed you have lived in a Muslim community with Muslims and have Muslim friends...How did you manage to ignore their practices? 5x daily prayers is a must for a Muslim...stopping this is oppression to practice religion (Islam in this terms)


First learn the meaning of "oppression" then learn how a person can be oppressed and what can be termed oppression! I have explained if you still dont understand ask dont accuse!

I never said China oppressed minorities, you don't have to tell me what I said, I know what I said, public schools do not have praying sessions, that's the Chinese law, many countries have similar laws, how can that be oppression? If I were a Buddist or Jewish, do Pakistani schools give me a time in school to pray?

 

[Rasengan]

What you have mentioned about you not agreeing with China's laws...is oppression in other countries! You denying it wont make it a myth!

2 Chinese members here have agreed China does EXACTLY what deems as oppression, so who are you to deny it?

I don't agree with every Chinese law, but I take into consideration of the local customs and environment. Man-made laws will always be subjective, so what's acceptable in one country will be unacceptable in another place. From my perspective, China is continuously evolving, therefore, some of these practices will have to go. For example, the Chinese consume a large amount of rice wine Maotai, but this custom of drinking after work in State Owned Enterprises is being discouraged due to health reasons. The same rules apply to the membership of the Communists Party. The older generation belonging to the cultural revolution era will be replaced by members who have studied abroad and are more globalized.

In regards to those two Chinese members. Their word isn't gospel, I have met thousands of Chinese people whose opinion differ, even amongst my best friends. I base my opinion on my own experience and those who I know personally that understand what's happening on the ground.

 

[beijingwalker]

First learn the meaning of "oppression" then learn how a person can be oppressed and what can be termed oppression! I have explained if you still dont understand ask dont accuse!

So you don't even think I know the meaning of oppression, how could you say that I mean oppression? Do we share a mind?

 

[Dubious]

I never said China oppressed minorities, you don't have to tell me what I said, I know what I said, public schools do not have praying sessions, that's the Chinese law, many countries have similar laws, how can that be oppression? If I were a Buddist or Jewish, do Pakistani schools give me a time in school to pray?

And again you didnt read my post! Bravo!

I explained it bit by bit breaking down everything and yet you question this? LOLZ
Please do get a refund from your English language teacher! Coz there is no use I explain something you wont read nor understand when you have zero interest to learn!

 

[beijingwalker]

And again you didnt read my post! Bravo!

I explained it bit by bit breaking down everything and yet you question this? LOLZ
Please do get a refund from your English language teacher! Coz there is no use I explain something you wont read nor understand when you have zero interest to learn!

So if you don't understand my English, how could you say what I meant is oppression, and count me as one of your claimed two Chinese posters, can anything be more funnier than that?

 

[Dubious]

I don't agree with every Chinese law, but I take into consideration of the local customs and environment. Man-made laws will always be subjective, so what's acceptable in one country will be unacceptable in another place.

Oppression of religious practice is against WORLD LAWS! It isnt limited to 1 country or another!

From my perspective, China is continuously evolving, therefore, some of these practices will have to go. For example, the Chinese consume a large amount of rice wine Maotai, but this custom of drinking after work in State Owned Enterprises is being discouraged due to health reasons. The same rules apply to the membership of the Communists Party. The older generation belonging to the cultural revolution era will be replaced by members who have studied abroad and are more globalized.

So you agree somethings have to go...Now when the West says it, why does it burn?

In regards to those two Chinese members. Their word isn't gospel, I have met thousands of Chinese people whose opinion differ, even amongst my best friends. I base my opinion on my own experience and those who I know personally that understand what's happening on the ground.

So have you gone into a concentration camp?
Have you asked them how many times a day they can pray? Oh wait, they cant coz it is a public building so they cant pray even once! Please stick to the topic not to your unrelated experience!

So you don't even think I know the meaning of oppression, how could you say that I mean oppression? Do we share a mind?

I already explained if you dont wish to read or dont have to understanding capabilities, it is not useful for me to continue quoting you ...considering you understood nothing from my post!

 

[beijingwalker]

If you don't understand my English, please don't quote me in the future.

 

[Dubious]

So if you don't understand my English, how could you say what I meant is oppression, and count me as one of your claimed two Chinese posters, can anything be more funnier than that?

Because you clearly dont understand oppression even when it is showing so!

Not allowing someone to worship when their religion asks 5 times a day worship is oppressing them from practicing their religion...and by large forcing a change in their lifestyle! Islam is considered a deen not just a religion..a lifestyle..You forcefully changing that is oppressing theirs!

 

[beijingwalker]

Because you clearly dont understand oppression even when it is showing so!

Not allowing someone to worship when their religion asks 5 times a day worship is oppressing them from practicing their religion...and by large forcing a change in their lifestyle! Islam is considered a deen not just a religion..a lifestyle..You forcefully changing that is oppressing theirs!

That's your standard of oppression,not mine, so don't speak for me, I can speak for myself.

 

[Dubious]

If you don't understand my English, please don't quote me in the future.

I already told you that few posts a go...If you dont understand ask but you still jump to conclusions and accusations!

And yes you arent worth discussing when you dont even know the basic meanings of things, the background of Islam (the religion being talked about) and refuse to discuss and only rely on accusing coz you understand nothing...cant add 2 and 2 and worse yet you refuse to learn! Such traits cant be discussed with! So all other members are right...Chinese members cant be discussed with!

That's your standard of oppression,not mine,

No, that is not my definition nor standard! It is the meaning of the word oppression! THIS is why I said your English is terrible!

That's your standard of oppression,not mine, so don't speak for me, I can speak for myself.

Nobody is speaking for you ...but you on the other hand have shown the world you are incapable of responding to comments, discussing issues let alone UNDERSTANDING an issue!

Sorry, I cant waste all my time on teaching you the meaning of words from the dictionary...that is your job!

 

[Rasengan]

Defence.pk is not banned in the UK nor do any members from UK hide their IP!


As you wish! We are ok with whatever the member is ok with...However I am not talking about your flags but even your IP has been masked!

On my profile it says clearly, I'm from London and I have used no software to masked my IP. I wouldn't even know how to do it.

 

[beijingwalker]

Nobody is speaking for you ...but you on the other hand have shown the world you are incapable of responding to comments, discussing issues let alone UNDERSTANDING an issue!

Thats' your standard of English, not mine, so don't quote me in the future, since we don't speak the same language.

Thank you.

Since I've been using this language to talk with many PDF users for almost a decade without too much trouble, I don't really care losing one poster who speaks a language that we mutually don't understand. I also didn't have much trouble talking with Americans when I lived there, that's enough for me.

 

[Dubious]

On my profile it says clearly, I'm from London and I have used no software to masked my IP. I wouldn't even know how to do it.

ok...but that is what your IP showed...

 

[Dubious]

Since I've been using this language to talk with many PDF users for almost a decade without too much trouble, I don't really care losing one poster who speaks a language that we mutually don't understand. I also didn't have much trouble talking with Americans when I lived there, that's enough for me.

Then the problem is not your English but your ignorance and refusal to learn or inability to analyze in a language you arent too good at! Coz you seem to have no problems conveying your msg but plenty of problems understanding even a breakdown of the whole issue at hand!

 

[beijingwalker]

Then the problem is not your English but your ignorance and refusal to learn or inability to analyze in a language you arent too good at! Coz you seem to have no problems conveying your msg but plenty of problems understanding even a breakdown of the whole issue at hand!

Ok, whatever you say, my lord.