ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

[Goku]

waiting for some people to criticize this , good luck @beijingwalker

 

[beijingwalker]

waiting for some people to criticize this , good luck @beijingwalker

Actually the Uighur college studnet has a point, Turks invaded and conquered many nations and forced those conquered peoples to adopt Turkic way of living and their language, Turks forced assimilation made many nations forget their own true identities. Many English speaking nations have no relations with English people, they were just conquered peoples who lost their native language and identity.

 

[CAN_TR]

Uighurs are Turkic not Chinese, Uighur is a Turkic language not a Chinese, so called Xinjiang is Eastern Turkestan not China.

Spare us with your propaganda.

This has nothing to do with the ME and N.Africa yet you shared it in the ME section, why?
@waz @Dubious

 

[beijingwalker]

Xinjiang grassroots cadres are in panic mode to get every household in Xinjiang connected with clean drinkable running water by the end of this year. That's the government deadline, in the middle of the world second biggest desert, Taklamakan Desert, village cadres work together with villagers and construction works to make sure that they can fulfill the task on time.

 

[beijingwalker]

Xinjiang ensured safe drinking water for the poorest families living in the desert, safe drinking water projects covers every one and no one is left behind, now every family living in the desert has access to running water which is safe for drinking.
Before people living in the desert had to get water from some muddy puddles which always had dead animals in them, people developed many health problems by drinking that putrid water. Now every household is connected to the running water systems which provide safe clean drinking water, people now developed healthy habits of brushing teeth and take daily showers, the health standard in the desert region has been greatly improved.

图尔荪托乎提老人对家乡饮水味道的记忆，印证了新疆农村群众饮水质量的提升过程。据和田市农村供水饮水管理站副主任阿不都卡地尔·阿不都拉介绍，为了让群众告别缺水、喝涝坝水的历史，1995年和田地区农村组织打井提取地下水，但地下水含氟量、硬度、碱度等多项指标均超过饮用水标准，只解决了群众对用水量的需求。2017年起，当地开始实施农村饮水安全巩固提升工程，中央和地方仅在和田市阿克恰勒乡就投资1400多万元，建了自来水厂，采用15道工序处理苦咸水，截至目前，全乡5500多人喝上了放心安全的自来水。

　　这是天山南北越来越多贫困农牧村庄饮水质量安全得到保障的缩影。记者从新疆维吾尔自治区水利厅了解到，2012年-2018年底，新疆农村饮水安全巩固提升工程累计解决了300多万贫困人口的饮水安全问题。今明两年内，新疆还将建设运行120项饮水安全工程，帮助剩余36.1万贫困人口用上放心安全的饮用水，实现不漏一户、不落一人。

http://www.xinhuanet.com/local/2019-05/06/c_1124458334.htm

 

[beijingwalker]

Uighurs are Turkic not Chinese, Uighur is a Turkic language not a Chinese, so called Xinjiang is Eastern Turkestan not China.

Spare us with your propaganda.

This has nothing to do with the ME and N.Africa yet you shared it in the ME section, why?
@waz @Dubious

It has something to do with Turkey, but it's ok if the Mod decides to move it into other sections. That's one of the Uighurs opinion, they surely have the right to talk about their own ancestors.

 

[letsrock]

This style of top driven, target driven, deadline enforcing governance works great in delivering functional infrastructure like water, rail and transport. But could be a problem for more advanced devlopment needs like local aesthetics, senstivity to local heritage etc. I would like to see how China will take care of the. I have seen in baidu streetview several haphazard apartment blocks outside of major cities which were clearly approved to meet some targets or on the basis of some bribes.
Eventually the local officials in China should have the necessary confidence and sound knowledge and empowerment to deny or approve infrastructure after taking in to everything in to consideration.

 

[beijingwalker]

This style of top driven, target driven, deadline enforcing governance works great in delivering functional infrastructure like water, rail and transport. But could be a problem for more advanced devlopment needs like local aesthetics, senstivity to local heritage etc. I would like to see how China will take care of the. I have seen in baidu streetview several haphazard apartment blocks outside of major cities which were clearly approved to meet some targets or on the basis of some bribes.
Eventually the local officials in China should have the necessary confidence and sound knowledge and empowerment to deny or approve infrastructure after taking in to everything in to consideration.

Actually comparing with western cities, Chinese cities are well planned with roads, highways, subways, schools and hospitals , in my city Beijing, it has strict height limit for skyscrapers, so basically as the second richest city in China, Beijing has no skyscraper, all Chinese cities now look well organized, clean with modern facilities.

 

[HAIDER]

Uighurs has all legal rights to keep there identity , but they should be faithful to China.

 

[Dubious]

Uighurs are Turkic not Chinese, Uighur is a Turkic language not a Chinese, so called Xinjiang is Eastern Turkestan not China.

Spare us with your propaganda.

This has nothing to do with the ME and N.Africa yet you shared it in the ME section, why?
@waz @Dubious

It is in the China far east section

Uighurs has all legal rights to keep there identity , but they should be faithful to China.

China's dictionary have different translation like brainwashing is translated to localisation to 90% Han style....

How can one be faithful to an identity trying to wipe out theirs?

China needs to reduce the pressure and concentrate in friendly approaches

 

[Brainsucker]

And we have a winner!!

Yet when the tables are turned they become extremely abusive, derailing threads and crying foul? I think the word for that is hypocrites!

What generalization did I give? All I said is you pointed out Chinese DRUNKARDS come to ruin threads! And then deny they do such things...

These are proverbs...abusive? yes and I did reprimand him for it!

To force feed a positive result is not called discussion! Discussion starts only when one accepts there is a mistake! With Chinese members NO ONE can discuss coz they never accept!

You can only discuss when the other is willing to listen and if the other is a patient of denial syndrome, what sort of discussion do you expect?

And discussions are initiatives...not force feedings! So, if someone isnt agreeing to you, your job is not to hammer them into acceptance but either counter their narrative or leave and put them in ignore list!

I have avoided the Chinese section since I joined in 2012!! 7 years of silence has resulted in Chinese members exploiting our hospitality!

Yes it is inappropriate to lie or put words in another's writing (something beijingwalker does too often)!

1) I never said they are evil - oppressive to a certain group - yes!

I never generalized so please dont put your words into mine!

As for "all weather friend" - these are politics...Everyone knows that even China knows it! We are its doorway to the West! So it is a 2 way benefits very little to do with accessing any humanity left in either!

Ok, I understand your point of view, and how to see about me in this discussion. There is no point to debate you in this regard. Basically, you disagree with me, and I disagree with you. So let's agree to disagree; and move on. Continuing this matter will only lead into miss-understanding.

 

[Rasengan]

And we have a winner!!


Yet when the tables are turned they become extremely abusive, derailing threads and crying foul? I think the word for that is hypocrites!


Itachi has an American view...

What generalization did I give? All I said is you pointed out Chinese DRUNKARDS come to ruin threads! And then deny they do such things...


These are proverbs...abusive? yes and I did reprimand him for it!


To force feed a positive result is not called discussion! Discussion starts only when one accepts there is a mistake! With Chinese members NO ONE can discuss coz they never accept!

You can only discuss when the other is willing to listen and if the other is a patient of denial syndrome, what sort of discussion do you expect?

And discussions are initiatives...not force feedings! So, if someone isnt agreeing to you, your job is not to hammer them into acceptance but either counter their narrative or leave and put them in ignore list!

I have avoided the Chinese section since I joined in 2012!! 7 years of silence has resulted in Chinese members exploiting our hospitality!


Yes you did! And you cant deny it coz that is exactly what you did!


Yes it is inappropriate to lie or put words in another's writing (something beijingwalker does too often)!

BTW, @Rasengan why are you masking your IP? Defence.pk is neither blocked in UK nor in Pakistan....


1) I never said they are evil - oppressive to a certain group - yes!

I never generalized so please dont put your words into mine!

As for "all weather friend" - these are politics...Everyone knows that even China knows it! We are its doorway to the West! So it is a 2 way benefits very little to do with accessing any humanity left in either!

I haven't bothered to change it. I have said it many times on this forum that I am currently living in the UK. I like the Pakistani flag.

 

[Dubious]

Ok, I understand your point of view, and how to see about me in this discussion. There is no point to debate you in this regard. Basically, you disagree with me, and I disagree with you. So let's agree to disagree; and move on.

Sure....There is no harm in disagreeing

 

[Brainsucker]

Sure....There is no harm in disagreeing

Let's back into a forum friends again and forget about this matter. We can discuss about another matter. Like music, that we both can agree into.

 

[Dubious]

Let's back into a forum friends again and forget about this matter. We can discuss about another matter. Like music, that we both can agree into.

As you please but that doesn't mean I won't reiterate the same point of view if asked just maybe not with you