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Those areas that CCP targetted are majority Uighur Area hardly any Han there & There's no insertion of IUD or sterilization being enacted on the Han.

You should really do your research.
I don't my research or you do your research? how come the same sources also shows Uighur birth rate is still twice as high as Han's? how do you explain it?
 
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Articles like this anger me because it is so fake and I don't know why the mods tolerate this intellectually bankrupt propaganda.. And you just attached the Uighur name for propaganda. It is decitful...

Just for your information the Uighurs are around 8mil in whole of China... That is like a drop of a sand in the sahara desert to even become a relevant topic.. China is 1.4billion nation in context.. Do you understand now why this article doesn't make sense.. The uighur need atleast 1000 years to just reach 200 million.. They are not even on China concern list... I find it quite decitful to attach that with china's decision to increase it's population..

Also why is this poster posting outside the Xinjiang mega-thread... The mods should not accept propaganda spamming outside of it's mega-thread... @waz @LeGenD @PakSword
 
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Isn't the Uyghur issue similar to Balochistan issue? Concentration camps, missing people and what not.. If you buy into Western propaganda on Uyghurs, you should do the same on Baloch issue and address that first!


Where is the western propaganda on balochistan issue?
Unless you are an indian in disguise and taking your food from your bollywood media and taking that as the opinion of the entire world?
Articles like this anger me because it is so fake and I don't know why the mods tolerate this intellectually bankrupt propaganda.. And you just attached the Uighur name for propaganda. It is decitful...

Just for your information the Uighurs are around 8mil in whole of China... That is like a drop of a sand in the sahara desert to even become a relevant topic.. China is 1.4billion nation in context.. Do you understand now why this article doesn't make sense.. The uighur need atleast 1000 years to just reach 200 million.. They are not even on China concern list... I find it quite decitful to attach that with china's decision to increase it's population..

Also why is this poster posting outside the Xinjiang mega-thread... The mods should not accept propaganda spamming outside of it's mega-thread... @waz @LeGenD @PakSword


And why should we limit our informational content and discussions to only one thread just to make you feel good?

Also what's stopping you from carrying a Chinese flag next to your profile name?



@mods Why are we getting dictated by Chinese on where they want all Uyghur related issues to be posted? A Chinese will start a mega thread and we will be dictated by them on where the rest of the threads should go to?

@waz
Interesting thing is why do Pakistani always get asked about Uyghurs .... Why don't they ask the UAE? Why don't they ask the Saudis? Why don't they ask the Omani? Why don't they ask the Bahraini???... Why always Pakistan?

Because it's all BS... They whole Uyghur Fake News is designed to break Pakistan-China alliance... Nothing more.



Interesting thing is then why does the closest Ally of China....Pakistan, has nothing to answer but "we are discussing that through internal channels"?
Why doesn't he say there is no issue and its all propaganda?

How genius one of you has to be understand the simple fact that your own FM didn't say it was propaganda but said there was an issue which they were handling internally?
 
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How many megatons of JL-3 warheads do you think Indonesia can absorb?



So said all the wanna be super powers in history of mankind.
You know where they are right now?

Your country lacks the bone to bomb anyone let alone Indonesia. They just keep talking to make your population happy.

Do this talk after you have "taken" your own territory from Taiwanese. You'll look sane at that point :)
 
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China: Draconian repression of Muslims in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity
10 June 2021, 16:00 UTC
  • Hundreds of thousands of Muslim minority men and women subjected to mass internment and torture
  • Millions of Muslims subjected to systematized mass surveillance
  • Muslim ethnic groups forced to abandon their religious traditions, cultural practices and local languages
  • More than 50 former camp detainees give harrowing new testimonies with detailed inside look at internment conditions and treatment
  • Amnesty International campaign calls for closure of internment camps, with over 60 detailed casefiles on those thought to be currently detained
Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic minorities in China’s Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region face systematic state-organized mass imprisonment, torture and persecution amounting to crimes against humanity, Amnesty International said as it launched a new report and campaign today.

In the 160-page report, ‘Like We Were Enemies in a War’: China’s Mass Internment, Torture, and Persecution of Muslims in Xinjiang, Amnesty International’s Crisis Response team released dozens of new testimonies from former detainees detailing the extreme measures taken by Chinese authorities since 2017 to essentially root out the religious traditions, cultural practices and local languages of the region’s Muslim ethnic groups. Carried out under the guise of fighting “terrorism”, these crimes have targeted ethnic Uyghurs, Kazakhs, Hui, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks and Tajiks.

Chinese authorities have built one of the world’s most sophisticated surveillance systems and a vast network of hundreds of grim “transformation-through-education” centres – actually, internment camps – throughout Xinjiang. Torture and other ill-treatment is systematic in the camps and every aspect of daily life is regimented in an effort to forcibly instil a secular, homogeneous Chinese nation and Communist party ideals.

“The Chinese authorities have created a dystopian hellscape on a staggering scale in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region,” said Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General.
The Chinese authorities have created a dystopian hellscape on a staggering scale in Xinjiang. Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim minorities face crimes against humanity and other serious human rights violations that threaten to erase their religious and cultural identities.
Agnès Callamard, Amnesty International’s Secretary General
“Uyghurs, Kazakhs and other Muslim minorities face crimes against humanity and other serious human rights violations that threaten to erase their religious and cultural identities.

“It should shock the conscience of humanity that massive numbers of people have been subjected to brainwashing, torture and other degrading treatment in internment camps, while millions more live in fear amid a vast surveillance apparatus.”
Mass imprisonment
The report documents how, since early 2017, huge numbers of men and women from predominantly Muslim ethnic minorities in Xinjiang have been arbitrarily detained. They include hundreds of thousands who have been sent to prisons in addition to hundreds of thousands – perhaps even a million or more – who have been sent to internment camps.

All of the more than 50 former detainees Amnesty International interviewed were detained for what appears to be entirely lawful conduct, such as possessing a religious-themed picture or communicating with someone abroad. A government cadre who participated in mass arrests in late 2017 told the organization how police took people from their homes without warning and detained them without any due process.

Most survivors who spoke to Amnesty International were first interrogated at police stations, where they had their biometric and medical data recorded before being transferred to a camp. They were often interrogated in “tiger chairs” – steel chairs with affixed leg irons and handcuffs that restrain the body in painful positions. Beatings, sleep deprivation and overcrowding are rampant in the police stations, and detainees reported being hooded and shackled during their interrogation and transfer.
Guards surround a large group of detainees in an internment camp in Xinjiang, China. © Molly Crabapple

From the moment they entered the prison-like internment camps, detainees’ lives were extraordinarily regimented. They had no privacy or autonomy, and they faced harsh punishments – sometimes collectively with their cellmates – for trivial disobedience. Internees were forbidden to speak freely to each other, and they were severely punished when they responded to prison guards or other officials in their native tongues instead of Mandarin. Every activity in the detainees’ daily routine was pre-ordained and their behaviour was constantly monitored and evaluated.

One woman who was detained for having WhatsApp on her phone said: “[Every day] you get up at 5am and have to make your bed, and it had to be perfect. Then there was a flag-raising ceremony and an ‘oath-taking’. Then you went to the canteen for breakfast. Then to the classroom. Then lunch. Then to the classroom. Then dinner. Then another class. Then bed. Every night two people had to be ‘on duty’ [monitoring the other cellmates] for two hours… There was not a minute left for yourself. You are exhausted.”

In the early weeks or months of internment, detainees are typically forced to either sit still or kneel in the same position in their cell, in complete silence, for most of their waking hours. Following this, they generally undergo forced “education”, where they are indoctrinated to disavow Islam, forgo using their language and other cultural practices, and study Mandarin Chinese language and Chinese Communist Party propaganda.

Other than being escorted under armed guard to and from canteens, classes or interrogation, detainees practically never leave their cells and rarely see sunlight or have outdoor access or exercise.
Systematic torture
Every former detainee Amnesty International interviewed suffered torture or other ill-treatment.
This included the cumulative psychological effect of their daily dehumanization, as well as physical torture in the form of beatings, electric shocks, solitary confinement, deprivation of food, water and sleep, exposure to extreme cold, and the abusive use of restraints, including torture tools like tiger chairs. Some reported being restrained in a tiger chair for 24 hours or more.
A detainee is beaten by internment camp guards while immobilized in a tiger chair. © Molly Crabapple

An older woman who was punished for defending her cellmate said she was taken to a small, dark, cold and windowless room where she had her hands and feet cuffed and was forced to sit on an iron chair for three days straight.

Two former detainees said they had been forced to wear heavy shackles – in one case for an entire year. Others described being shocked with electric batons or sprayed with pepper spray.

Some detainees reported being tortured multiple times, while others were forced to watch their cellmates being tortured. Amnesty International learned of one case where a detainee is believed to have died as a result of being restrained in a tiger chair, in front of his cellmates, for 72 hours, during which time he urinated and defecated on himself.
Surveillance state
Both inside and outside the camps, Xinjiang’s Muslims are among the most heavily surveilled populations in the world.
For at least several months after being released from a camp, all former internees are under near-constant electronic and in-person surveillance, including invasive “homestays” by government cadres who monitor them and report “suspicious” behaviour. This could be peaceful religious practices, the use of unauthorized communications software (such as VPNs or WhatsApp), or purchasing an “unusual” amount of fuel or electricity.

Freedom of movement for released internees is also heavily restricted, with a massive number of security forces patrolling the streets and operating thousands of checkpoints, euphemistically known as “convenience police stations”.
A security checkpoint outside of a train station in Urumqi, Xinjiang. Han Chinese people and members of predominantly Muslim ethnic groups go through separate checkpoints. Muslims are subjected to much more severe security checks. © Molly CrabappleReligious persecution
Muslims are not free to practice their religion in Xinjiang. Dozens of Muslim men and women told Amnesty International the regional Chinese authorities showed extraordinary hostility towards their Islamic faith. Basic religious and cultural practices have been deemed “extremist” and used as grounds for detention.

As a result, most people have stopped praying or showing any outward signs of observing Islam. This extends to dress, grooming and even speech. “We couldn’t say ‘as-salamu-alaykum’ [a typical greeting in many Islamic cultures meaning “peace be upon you”] …anymore,” one man told Amnesty International. Qur’ans, prayer mats and other religious artifacts have effectively been banned.

Former Chinese government cadres told Amnesty International how they barged into people’s homes to confiscate religious items. “We told them to remove photos [of mosques] and put up [Chinese] flags,” one said.

Those interviewed by Amnesty International described how mosques, shrines, gravesites, and other religious and cultural sites have been systematically demolished or repurposed throughout Xinjiang.
Chinese government officials removing religious and cultural artefacts from a home. © Molly CrabappleMassive cover-up
The Chinese government has gone to extraordinary lengths to cover up its violations of international human rights law in Xinjiang. Authorities threaten, detain and mistreat anyone who speaks out.

The fate of hundreds of thousands of detainees is not known. Many may remain in detention in the camps. Others have been given long prison sentences – Chinese state data shows significant increases in prison sentences and satellite imagery shows significant new prison construction in Xinjiang since 2017. Others have been transferred to situations of forced or coerced labour.

“China must immediately dismantle the internment camps, release the people arbitrarily detained in them and in prisons, and end the systematic attacks against Muslims in Xinjiang,” said Agnès Callamard.
China must immediately dismantle the internment camps, release the people arbitrarily detained in them and in prisons, and end the systematic attacks against Muslims in Xinjiang.
Agnès Callamard
Mods - please do not insult our intelligence by closing this thread like others are being done or moved under CCP Bot controlled Uighur blanket thread where it is quietened.
 
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please report this under KCNA or XInhua. You will find many paid happy clappers to cheer you on.

go enjoy winnie xi wine and wait for a pay check for posting your combat..

ah... i forget.. Winnie Xi told you minions... BE NICE...

too many Xi mosquitos are rampant on thsi forum... another one to block...

If you can write to each point, please do so... otherwise dont waste our bandwidth.
 
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Another report made based on hearsay. Unverified and without any physically evidence.

then why has the UN Human Rights commissioner been refused to enter Xingjing over 27 times?

if you have nothing to hide why refuse UN to enter, the same UN which China is a permanent member of?
 
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then why has the UN Human Rights commissioner been refused to enter Xingjing over 27 times?

if you have nothing to hide why refuse UN to enter, the same UN which China is a permanent member of?
Because there's already a presumption of guilt and because the evidence China put forth have been ignored. Find a commissioner who is not prejudiced and reduce the scope to targeted sites first.
 
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