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ALL Xinjiang related issues e.g. uyghur people, development, videos etc, In here please.

An Independent East Turkestan will be bad for Pakistan

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A Uygur woman claims that she was detained in a re-education camp. Her brothers denied her claims.

A BBC report accused a kindergarten in Hotan, Xinjiang of housing children of "detainees".

China Daily visited the alleged "camps" in ASPI's reports on Xinjiang and found its data are false.
 
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here comes the PLA paid troll brigade ... amazing how much lies will they spin.
@waz @WebMaster @AgNoStiC MuSliM

Please monitor this thread and some resort to name calling to try derail the accusations.



Look at this news by BBC. Do Pakistanis
agree with BBC reporting if u can trust it?


Why would Pakistan support them?
Pakistan has long been accused of using the Afghan Taliban to further its foreign policy interests in the country. The ISI first became involved in funding and training militants in Afghanistan after the Soviet invasion in 1979.

Image captionPakistan and the US are key allies - but ties have frayed in recent months
Although since 2001 Pakistan has allowed its territory to be used to supply international troops during the war in Afghanistan, and co-operated with the West in fighting some terrorists groups like al-Qaeda, analysts say it has continued to give shelter and support to Afghan insurgents.

Its aim has been to limit the influence in Afghanistan of its chief regional rival, India
 
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Wtf is wrong with you?

Why soread bullshit?

This must've happened quite recently if it did. Considering the fact that I visited Turpan and Urumqi last MONTH.

There is literal ARABIC written on the SHOPS and BANKS.

Quran available to but at most if not ALL book shops. Men with beards aren't that common but I did see quite a few.

I was given Salam Muslims when they learned I'm Pakistani. Even HIJABI WOMEN were fond.

Why do you shit out bullcrap like it's a hobby?
waiting for the low quality Chinese fanboys to start jumping up and down like monkeys on a hot surface

China banned muslims praying and no muslim in Northern China has beards and surveillance is now on every street corner

Huawei has even issued a patent on AI tech to identify Uighur muslims anyone with IQ of 10 will be able to find this patent its public info

Quran is banned and everything is monitored basically China has classed islam as a disease

we supported China but our religion is not for sale

May Allahs wrath hit them hard I am sure it is coming for them
 
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To be fair the Chinese are uniformly hard on non-conformance. We see evidence of it all around China, the sad reality is that the Uighur's have borne the brunt of Chinese recalibration because they are so different. One day the Chinese will attain enlightenment and learn to treasure diversity, diversity in thought, beliefs and ideas. China cannot, should not become all powerful until then.
 
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To be fair the Chinese are uniformly hard on non-conformance. We see evidence of it all around China, the sad reality is that the Uighur's have borne the brunt of Chinese recalibration because they are so different. One day the Chinese will attain enlightenment and learn to treasure diversity, diversity in thought, beliefs and ideas. China cannot, should not become all powerful until then.

Seems to be the case with all the East Asian cultures.

That said they end up with order. Can't think of places safer than there, especially for women.

They do seem to accept/tolerate whites better than darker people though.
 
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Uighurs are present as top generals, celebrities and politicians in China. Clearly there isn't extreme systematic bias against them. There's fewer Chinese Americans or Muslim Americans for that matter in the US Cabinet or state government than there are Uighurs in the State Council and provincial government.
 
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If China solves the problem of terrorism through education, vocational counseling, job provision, and increased income, then the US will not be able to bomb Muslims in the future.

Does this threaten the future survival of Israel?
 
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Again, the BBC published a series of allegations on the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region from the purported testimony of individuals. These claims are of such a graphic nature and severity that they ought not to be repeated. However, that does not detract from the malicious intent behind why they have been pushed, despite the report conceding that it is "impossible to verify" such claims.

The answer is simple: the BBC is a dogmatic, ideological institution with long complicity in information warfare. Presenting itself as a credible and impartial source of information, it is whipping up extreme emotions with misleading and sensationalist reporting in order to manufacture consent for Western confrontation against China.

The BBC has often been held as a barometer for the profession of broadcasting around the world. Sadly, the organization is increasingly degraded into a propaganda weapon, especially when it comes to foreign policy.

British historian Nicholas John Cull is straightforward in his book "Propaganda and Mass Persuasion, A Historical Encyclopedia": the BBC "has served as the propaganda arm of the British government overseas" and in turn propagated Cold War anti-Communism.

However, the book points out that the art of the BBC's success has been to do this subtly, rather than explicitly, noting that "The BBC sought to gain a reputation for credibility as a news service" and further elaborating that the style of British propaganda has been to utilize subtlety, described as "feeding ideas" or "propaganda by persuasion."

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Screenshot of the BBC's fake reports on Xinjiang.

As some noted examples of this style, the BBC was accused by many academic stories of overtly promoting the case for war in Iraq during 2002. An academic paper by David McQueen of Bournemouth University observed the BBC's three trends of coverage on Iraq: First, deliberately incited fear against Saddam Hussein; second, overused "official" sources; third, didn't give credence to opposing views.

The relevance of the comparison is that with the Xinjiang issue, the BBC is producing emotionally charged, aggressive and misleading information in order to deliberately buy support for confrontational policies against China. This phenomenon has been dubbed as "manufacturing consent" by Noam Chomsky.

It is not the first time it has done so. The broadcaster has persistently sought to keep extremely negative content about Xinjiang on the agenda on a rolling basis and deliberately geared their conclusions towards policy outcomes, dubbing them a "game-changer".

For example, late last year the BBC commissioned far-right fundamentalist researcher Adrian Zenz to proliferate lies of forced labor in the region, which subsequently led to U.S. sanctions against the Xinjiang cotton industry.

It has also been a leading voice in promoting violence in Hong Kong, with clear double standards in how it approaches situations in other places. In January, the BBC condemned the unrest at the U.S. capitol building as an insurrection by a "pro-Trump mob", yet it has insisted on using "pro-democracy protesters" to describe Hong Kong rioters.

The BBC is becoming a frontline voice in propagating lies about China in an attempt to deliberately undermine its reputation and empower ideological hardliners. Claims about Xinjiang are unverified, self-admitted speculation yet presented as an infallible truth worthy of imposing grave geopolitical consequences.

It's time to get tough with the BBC's lies and talk about the institution for what it is than what it is assumed to be.
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State department says ‘atrocities’ against detained Uighur and Muslim women in region must be ‘met with serious consequences’


The United States is “deeply disturbed” by reports of systematic rape and sexual abuse against women in internment camps for ethnic Uighurs and other Muslims in China’s Xinjiang region and there must be serious consequences for atrocities committed there, the US state department has said.
A BBC report on Wednesday said women in the camps were subject to rape, sexual abuse and torture. The British broadcaster said “several former detainees and a guard have told the BBC they experienced or saw evidence of an organised system of mass rape, sexual abuse and torture”.

A state department spokesperson said: “We are deeply disturbed by reports, including first-hand testimony, of systematic rape and sexual abuse against women in internment camps for ethnic Uighurs and other Muslims in Xinjiang.”

'Our souls are dead': how I survived a Chinese 're-education' camp for Uighurs
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The spokesperson reiterated US charges that China has committed “crimes against humanity and genocide” in Xinjiang and added: “These atrocities shock the conscience and must be met with serious consequences.”
The official said China should allow “immediate and independent investigations by international observers” into the rape allegations “in addition to the other atrocities being committed in Xinjiang.”

Beijing denies accusations of abuse in Xinjiang, and has said the complexes it set up in the region provided vocational training to help stamp out Islamist extremism and separatism. Those in the facilities have since “graduated”, it says.
Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin said the BBC report was “wholly without factual basis” and charged that the people interviewed for it had been “proved multiple times” to be “actors disseminating false information.”
The Biden administration has endorsed a determination made the previous day by the outgoing Trump administration that China has committed genocide in Xinjiang.

Last year, a report by a German researcher published by a Washington thinktank accused China of using forced sterilisation, forced abortion and coercive family planning against minority Muslims.



 
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brits has gone wacko anti-china after they lost whatever little influence they've had in hk. lol. china is badly hurting their feeling..

since all gloves are off now. china should officially support breakaway of scottland, wales, northern ireland from the uk and watch them whine. :D
 
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Yeah, China is bad bad bad, repeat after me, bad bad bad.
China systematically genocide 20 millions Native Americans.
 
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