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[Tom_Cruise]

Very dodgy video. Do people just randomly film the night sky hoping something will happen?

The first video does show something coming down in flames so good chance an edgy and very nervous SAM operator fucked up.

 

[PakSword]

It's fake or an old video of something else

Man, just because you are Iranian, you shouldn't stop talking sense..

People online are even calculating the distance of blast from camera using the delay in sound after visuals.

And not all the Americans are blaming you.. They are blaming their own government for the fvck up.. Just man up and accept something has gone wrong..

See what some Americans are saying:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215361163648741377

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215362550067392512

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215358715265720320

People know that these kind of mistakes happen in heightened alert situations.. Your AD staff was extremely alert and just mistook a passenger jet as a threat and shot it. It means they were alert.. good for you.. Had it been a US fighter jet, they would have scored a kill that day... It happens in a war like situation, nothing to worry about.. but don't just rubbish the evidence which many experts are now believing to be factual.

What you guys are doing right now is not in the interest of your country.. This is the real shit that's going on online.

 

[Philosopher]

Oh Gosh, it is Mr Robot. Yesterday you were ranting on that the Aircraft had simply 'crashed' and how everyone else was wrong and how a genius like you was right! And today, you have changed your tune and saying "mistakes" happen. Your are a hypocrite and blinded by your support.

What are you mumbling about? I am "hypocrite and blinded" because I am not jumping to conclusions and believing all these random twitter claims about Iran shooting down a plane. Are you feeling okay?

This is no mistake; it is incompetence and criminal negligence which has resulted in the deaths of 176 innocent civilians. Iran needs to hand over the black boxes to UN. The families of those killed will hopefully take legal action.

I suggest you quiet down until the facts have been confirmed. I know you trolls can't help yourself and like to believe Iran shot its own plane down, but unfortunately for you, the rest of us are not trolls to jump to such conclusions.

 

[mangekyo]

Man, just because you are Iranian, you shouldn't stop talking sense..

People online are even calculating the distance of blast from camera using the delay in sound after visuals.

And not all the Americans are blaming you.. They are blaming their own government for the fvck up.. Just man up and accept something has gone wrong..

See what some Americans are saying:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215361163648741377

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215362550067392512

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215358715265720320

People know that these kind of mistakes happen in heightened alert situations.. Your AD staff was extremely alert and just mistook a passenger jet as a threat and shot it. It means they were alert.. good for you.. Had it been a US fighter jet, they might have scored a kill that day... It happens in a war like situation, nothing to worry about.. but don't just rubbish the evidence which many experts are now believing to be factual.

What you guys are doing right now is not in the interest of your country.. This is the real shit that's going on online.

If we did shoot down the plane, it is 100% on us. You don't play with civilian lives. I don't care how the situation was. And the worst thing we could do after such a tragedy is deny it. But I don't believe we shot down the plane.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

There was no breach of Iranian airspace so I highly doubt they shot it down.

 

[Philosopher]

Man, just because you are Iranian, you shouldn't stop talking sense..

People online are even calculating the distance of blast from camera using the delay in sound after visuals.

And not all the Americans are blaming you.. They are blaming their own government for the fvck up.. Just man up and accept something has gone wrong..

See what some Americans are saying:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215361163648741377

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215362550067392512

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215358715265720320

People know that these kind of mistakes happen in heightened alert situations.. Your AD staff was extremely alert and just mistook a passenger jet as a threat and shot it. It means they were alert.. good for you.. Had it been a US fighter jet, they would have scored a kill that day... It happens in a war like situation, nothing to worry about.. but don't just rubbish the evidence which many experts are now believing to be factual.

What you guys are doing right now is not in the interest of your country.. This is the real shit that's going on online.

Please stop talking as if you know the actual facts on the ground and what really happened. Are you pushing your own narrative at the moment using bunch of dubious videos etc going around on twitter?

@Irfan Baloch

We already have a few threads running already, one is in the Iranians section. I don't see the point of having multiple threads, especially one that is jumping to conclusion regarding what happened.

 

[mangekyo]

There was no breach of Iranian airspace so I highly doubt they shot it down.

There were also many other planes in the air at that time, same altitude

 

[Irfan Baloch]

please stop trolling. it is very clear an accident on the hands of iran has occurred.

yea even the Canadian PM is saying that the jet was shot down by Iranian SAM

what a tragedy
that is even worse.

rest in peace

 

[Trango Towers]

initially the west said....no chance the plane was shot down
now the same west is saying it was a missile.

sounds fishy

 

[PakSword]

Please stop talking as if you know the actual facts on the ground and what really happened. Are you pushing your own narrative at the moment using bunch of dubious videos etc going around on twitter?

@Irfan Baloch

We already have a few threads running already, one is in the Iranians section. I don't see the point of having multiple threads, especially one that is jumping to conclusion regarding what happened.

I am not in a mood to just throw the evidence away.. Sorry.. specially when some experts are analyzing the satellite imagery..

Not everyone who talks in your favor is your friend, and who talks against you in your enemy.

And it's now beyond video, governments whose citizens are lost are suspecting a missile strike... they aren't saying that it was a deliberate act.. but could be a mistake, which makes sense..

 

[mangekyo]

initially the wets said....no chance the plane was shot down
now the same west is saying it was a missile.

sounds fishy

They changed their mind after US said it was shot down.
Suddenly they were looking for a Russian SAM and then magically one appears

 

[Philosopher]

I am not in a mood to just throw the evidence away.. Sorry.. specially when some experts are analyzing the satellite imagery..

Not everyone who talks in your favor is your friend, and who talks against you in your enemy.

And it's now beyond video, governments whose citizens are lost are suspecting a missile strike... they aren't saying that it was a deliberate act.. but could be a mistake, which makes sense..

My point is, there is no "evidence"! Just bunch of dubious videos and claims on twitter right now. You're acting as if there are some proper hard evidence. I am sorry, but before I believe Iran shot down its own plane, I rather let some proper investigator find facts make that claim. Is it possible Iran shot it down? of course, but why people are happy to jump to conclusion, I have no idea.

 

[mangekyo]

An Iranian official says the US NTSB has accepted an invitation to participate in jet investigation
Thu 9 Jan 2020 22:39:34 GMT
Author: Eamonn Sheridan | Category: News

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Reuters headline saying that the National Transportation Safety Board to join the investigation of the downing of the Ukraine International Airlines Boeing 737 by a missile fired from Iran
All 176 people aboard the plane were killed
More via Reuters:

• unclear what the NTSB can do in the investigation given US sanctions on Iran
• Boeing is supporting NTSB in the investigation

 

[Irfan Baloch]

initially the west said....no chance the plane was shot down
now the same west is saying it was a missile.

sounds fishy

I will like to know what Ukraine or Russia say too
its very tragic either way. worse case is if its shot down.

 

[mangekyo]

The point is to stop any future sales of Russian ADS to Iran like the coveted S-500s.

The most likely possibility was a bomb inside the plane.

I am 100% convinced this is a set up.