All stories on Ukraine airliner tragedy

[mangekyo]

Why are you comparing it to Saddam's WMD? You think US can invade a country because it shot down a civilian plane, that too full of its own citizens? It's not just the US that's saying this, countries that haven't even supported the US in this Iran-US mess are also claiming the same.

It has nothing to do with invading Iran. It is about how US controls the media and spreads propaganda.

Why would they bother?

1.It hugely destroys Irans reputation among Europeans, justifies Trumps sanctions,
2.Oroves to the Europeans and all anti Trumps that Trump was right about Iran all along.
3.Stops all further Iranian attacks in Iraq, because after this, Iran had the morale highground after Trump assasinated Soleimani, Now Iran lost that morale highground, if we do anything in Iran, we will be seen as an aggressive country that has to be stopped.

This is huge benefit for Trump

 

[TNT]

Well tje canadian PM just said it was shot down. I guess they have some evidence now. Woukd be good for iran to come out clean.

 

[Oublious]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215379840913854464

 

[SideWinderX37]

It has nothing to do with invading Iran. It is about how US controls the media and spreads propaganda.

Why would they bother?

1.It hugely destroys Irans reputation among Europeans, justifies Trumps sanctions,
2.Oroves to the Europeans and all anti Trumps that Trump was right about Iran all along.
3.Stops all further Iranian attacks in Iraq, because after this, Iran had the morale highground after Trump assasinated Soleimani, Now Iran lost that morale highground, if we do anything in Iran, we will be seen as an aggressive country that has to be stopped.

This is huge benefit for Trump

My friend the odds of an civilian aircraft going down by accident during the hour of conflict are pretty low.
I mean Iran gave them chance to use this as a propaganda.

I'm just wondering that what would happen if US actually violated Iranian airspace that hour. We could had more than one jet going down.

 

[mangekyo]

Aik mazay ki baat bataun..

The guy who first posted this pic online.. his name is Ashkan Monfared..

He got mass reported and banned by twitter, and now nowhere found on the internet..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1214972910970036224

https://twitter.com/x/status/1214983697830752258

https://twitter.com/AshkanMonfared_

So let me get this straight.

1. Iran launches attack at US bases in Iraq
2. Boeing plane crashes. We have numerous reports of engine failure. Even Ukrainian ambassador to Iran
3. US says the plane was shot down by Iranian SAM
4. Suddenly Ukraine changes statement and says they want to go to Iran and look for a Russian missile
5. Shady twitter video shows up.
6. Unknown twitter account sends a pic of a Russian missile to an analyst
7. Twitter account disappears.

This does not ring a bell?
Looks like CIA outsmarted Iran here

 

[Arian]

@Arian told you.

your egos are being deflated at a frequency interval of 2 hours.

How is my ego being deflated? Do explain.

 

[Safriz]

USA has vendetta against Iran, so their proof is not acceptable...

 

[PakSword]

So let me get this straight.

1. Iran launches attack at US bases in Iraq
2. Boeing plane crashes. We have numerous reports of engine failure. Even Ukrainian ambassador to Iran
3. US says the plane was shot down by Iranian SAM
4. Suddenly Ukraine changes statement and says they want to go to Iran and look for a Russian missile
5. Shady twitter video shows up.
6. Unknown twitter account sends a pic of a Russian missile to an analyst
7. Twitter account disappears.

This does not ring a bell?
Looks like CIA outsmarted Iran here

1. And it was expecting a retaliation and therefore all SAMs were highly alerted.
2. The whole world, including the Ukrainian Ambassador to Iran was relying on the information furnished by Iran, expecting that a government will not lie about it. Ukrainian Ambassador didn't have a direct connection to the pilot of the plane, or he wasn't watching the plane till it crashed.. he simply passed off the information as he received. This shows that countries were neutral too..
3. Even US initially believed that plane might have had a technical fault.
4. Because evidence started to surface..
5. This is the only video that is connecting all the dots.. The building are identifiable, the perimeter, water tank, direction from where the SAM came (coinciding the SAM battery site in Iran).
6. Not just one pic, many other pics started surfacing, taken by locals.. on whatsapp groups. One made it to Twitter too.
7. Was reported.. and suspended. Now he can't clarify where has he taken the pic. For now, it seems, the pic is taken in Parand, where the plane lost its contact.

 

[mangekyo]

My friend the odds of an civilian aircraft going down by accident during the hour of conflict are pretty low.
I mean Iran gave them chance to use this as a propaganda.

I'm just wondering that what would happen if US actually violated Iranian airspace that hour. We could had more than one jet going down.

I think US did a cyberattack read my comment u

1. And it was expecting a retaliation and therefore all SAMs were highly alerted.
2. The whole world, including the Ukrainian Ambassador to Iran was relying on the information furnished by Iran, expecting that a government will not lie about it. Ukrainian Ambassador didn't have a direct connection to the pilot of the plane, or he wasn't watching the plane till it crashed.. he simply passed off the information as he received. This shows that countries were neutral too..
3. Even US initially believed that plane might have had a technical fault.
4. Because evidence started to surface..
5. This is the only video that is connecting all the dots.. The building are identifiable, the perimeter, water tank, direction from where the SAM came (coinciding the SAM battery site in Iran).
6. Not just one pic, many other pics started surfacing, taken by locals.. on whatsapp groups. One made it to Twitter too.
7. Was reported.. and suspended. Now he can't clarify where has he taken the pic. For now, it seems, the pic is taken in Parand, where the plane lost its contact.

There were multiple videos of the plane being on fire before it crashed.
In the video I am referring to that have fooled everyone, something hits something and then vanishes. There is no burning object

 

[Yankee-stani]

Psychological warfare’: Iran urges Canada to share ‘intelligence’ cited by Trudeau to accuse Tehran of Ukrainian jet downing

Iran has dismissed claims that the Ukrainian Boeing 737 that crashed near Tehran was hit by a missile as “psychological warfare,” calling on countries that lost citizens in the crash to send representatives to join its probe.
"All these reports are a psychological warfare against Iran,” government spokesman Ali Rabiei said on Thursday, as cited by Iranian state media. “All those countries whose citizens were aboard the plane can send representatives and we urge Boeing to send its representative to join the process of investigating the black box.”

https://www.rt.com/news/477872-iran-plane-psychological-warfare/

 

[PakSword]

There were multiple videos of the plane being on fire before it crashed.
In the video I am referring to that have fooled everyone, something hits something and then vanishes. There is no burning object

The video is very short..
Maybe the engine caught fire later.

 

[mangekyo]

In this video, the plane is clearly burning as it crashes

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215334836937928705

Here the missile hits and the plane vanishes?
A random guy is randomly holding up his phone in the air just at the moment where the missile hits
He doesnt even react, is 100% calm, makes no sound, like a plane didnt just blow up

 

[PakSword]

the plane is clearly burning as it crashes

On fire shortly before it crashes.

That's what I am saying.. it might have caught fire later..

He doesnt even react, is 100% calm, makes no sound, like a plane didnt just blow up

So you are saying the video is fake (CGI), or you are saying the guy who made the video knew what was about to happen?

 

[denel]

Sky News reports that Western intel agencies say the Ukrainian plane crashed due to an overheated engine, not an Iranian missile. In photos on social media, the red marks appear as "holes" from external damage, but the angle of photography creates a misleading impression.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1215012108707909633

please stop trolling. it is very clear an accident on the hands of iran has occurred.

 

[mangekyo]

On fire shortly before it crashes.

That's what I am saying.. it might have caught fire later..


So you are saying the video is fake (CGI), or you are saying the guy who made the video knew what was about to happen?

It's fake or an old video of something else