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Alarming Evidence Suggests ISIS is Now a US-Israel Proxy Army


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They are also talking about destroying Rasool Allah(SAW) grave and killing about muslims.They are recognizing both muslims and jewish as kaafirs,tell me something new.A true muslim loves Rasool Allah(SAW) and Allah(swt) and in no way he could imagine of destroying any remains of final prophet Muhammed (PBUH).


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Once a traitorous nation, always a traitor.
Who judges this in Pakistan? The courts? A public opinion that's hogtied by media restrictions, both formal and extra-legal? So what worth is there to such pronouncements?

Calling us all sorts of names such as terrorist and militant sympathizer -
Was I the party involved in baseless name-calling?

when you were not and Pakistan was the nation responsible for arrested Khalid Sheikh Muhammed and Rami Yousuf.
As Pakistan was the nation responsible for harboring them.

You are a bully and when you don't get your way you arm wrangle your way through.
What are you doing right now if not bullying?

Keep crying but we will not be a satellite state of your murderous country. We will not go after the Haqqanis, Hekmatyars and Gul Bahadurs and Bahawal Khans. Our target will remain the Taliban which you Americans formed.
That would be very funny if this wasn't so serious. But it does show Pakistan's excuse for taking out the Taliban: "they're America's, not ours". Of course, the Talibs know better than that and see the Pakistan Army as traitors - hence the school attack a year ago.

Those attacking us are our primary sphere of responsibility. Protecting our citizens is our duty.
Under international law keeping terrorists from operating and raising money on your territory is also your duty - or else to stand aside and let others fight them, sovereignty or no.

What evidence? Lol. Typical whining American unable to grasp the damage you have done across the world.
Aren't you the whiner here?

This is clearly related.
If so, make it so.
 
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No, miah...... it will be a Mod's rating, no less unless you demand even more than that Mr.Dinosaur.
@waz ........ somebody looking to die here, on the forum? :)

Too bad that you are not that moderator! So, keep your aspirations suppressed for the time being.
 
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Who judges this in Pakistan? The courts? A public opinion that's hogtied by media restrictions, both formal and extra-legal? So what worth is there to such pronouncements?


Was I the party involved in baseless name-calling?

As Pakistan was the nation responsible for harboring them.

We arrested them. We harbor them and arrest them. I can blame you too. You supported the Taliban in Afghanistan and have refused to take action against Maulana Fazlullah.
What are you doing right now if not bullying?

Bullying is what America has been doing to Pakistan for years. Every bully has a violent end. Remember that.

That would be very funny if this wasn't so serious. But it does show Pakistan's excuse for taking out the Taliban: "they're America's, not ours". Of course, the Talibs know better than that and see the Pakistan Army as traitors - hence the school attack a year ago.

The school attack recieved no attention compared to the Tashfeen Malik case even though this attack resulted in the deaths of many more. It shows American hypocrisy and shows that because of American policies the problem has become contagious in muslim countries. You supported Mullah King Zia Ul Haq and the Wahabi regime in Saudia.

Under international law keeping terrorists from operating and raising money on your territory is also your duty - or else to stand aside and let others fight them, sovereignty or no.

Our duty is to protect our citizens first. Not to protect the lives of other people first. Remember that and we will despite your pressure work continually for our interests. You can bully our current governments but the people will never surrender to being a satellite state of America.

Aren't you the whiner here?

If so, make it so.
America will fall and we will cheer when it does.
 
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We arrested them. We harbor them and arrest them. I can blame you too. You supported the Taliban in Afghanistan and have refused to take action against Maulana Fazlullah.
American "support" for the Talibs was limited to medical and humanitarian aid, drug interdiction, and stuff like football stadiums. However, it seems there's very little that terrorists cannot put to evil uses so much aid was stopped even before 9/11.

Bullying is what America has been doing to Pakistan for years. Every bully has a violent end. Remember that.
By pointing out, repeatedly, that Pakistan is violating international law America is "bullying". Something wrong with that?

The school attack recieved no attention compared to the Tashfeen Malik case even though this attack resulted in the deaths of many more. It shows American hypocrisy -
As the Russians say, your own skin is closest. Seems to be a very human phenomenon.

You supported Mullah King Zia Ul Haq and the Wahabi regime in Saudia.
Every Pakistani regime blames America for supporting the previous Pakistani regime. So apparently America is a very consistent supporter of Pakistan, regardless of who is ruling the country.

Our duty is to protect our citizens first. Not to protect the lives of other people first. Remember that -
I'm sorry I must disagree with you. Yes, the priority of the state SHOULD be to protect its citizens - but Pakistani rulers have admitted that other priorities have come first: "strategic depth", conquering Kashmir, etc. In short, Pakistan's priority is - or has been - imperialism.

You can bully our current governments but the people will never surrender to being a satellite state of America.
Because Pakistan is too busy surrendering to the sweet embraces of Islamic militarism?

America will fall and we will cheer when it does.
Even though the central argument of the thread has been trashed, your point is that America-hatred justifies all lies and crimes?
 
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American "support" for the Talibs was limited to medical and humanitarian aid, drug interdiction, and stuff like football stadiums. However, it seems there's very little that terrorists cannot put to evil uses so much aid was stopped even before 9/11.

A lie only Americans like you are capable of perpetuating.

Afghanistan, the CIA, bin Laden, and the Taliban

US Gave Silent Backing To Taliban Rise To Power
By pointing out, repeatedly, that Pakistan is violating international law America is "bullying". Something wrong with that?

US invaded Iraq on the premise of them having nukes. Wasn't bombing a country to the stone age an example of violating international law. Its easy to say anyway when half the laws in the world arena and UN are made by you. You are a thug and a bully which will ultimately fall.
As the Russians say, your own skin is closest. Seems to be a very human phenomenon.

It is true that Americans though don't give a crap about our people when they are killed. More Iraqis and Afghans and others have been killed rather than Americans. In fact more Americans are killed by their furniture rather than wanton acts of terror-terror you initiated in Afghanistan over the indigenous people so that they escaped the Soviet grip.
Every Pakistani regime blames America for supporting the previous Pakistani regime. So apparently America is a very consistent supporter of Pakistan, regardless of who is ruling the country.

Military dictators were the ones who received the most vocal support of America. Mostly because they did theior bidding without asking questions.
I'm sorry I must disagree with you. Yes, the priority of the state SHOULD be to protect its citizens - but Pakistani rulers have admitted that other priorities have come first: "strategic depth", conquering Kashmir, etc. In short, Pakistan's priority is - or has been - imperialism.

Lol. The largest imperialist in the world calling another nation rogue. Sweet. Not once admitting your countries role in genocide and murder. Pakistanis generally want the Kashmiris to decide their future. Indians want to rule Kashmir. Kashmir is something almost all Pakistanis are concerned about and the Pakistani rulers have to talk about it because the people want them to. Not the other way around.
Because Pakistan is too busy surrendering to the sweet embraces of Islamic militarism?

Shameless American policy is displayed in this post of yours as lying and deflecting attention is American policy. Why did you support Zia Ul Haq, the man who received the most support from the USA. He was the biggest mullah and terror supporter in the history of Pakistan

Even though the central argument of the thread has been trashed, your point is that America-hatred justifies all lies and crimes?

Change America with Pakistan. And then try to answer the question yourself.
 
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one thing I didn't understand why western media (propaganda tools) trying to prof that Taliban , Alkayda, and ISIS is there own creation . if that's the fact than why the exposing there own fact, is that because they want whole world including muslims are going to sympathize because they are western made quality muslims and zihadis and has guaranty of long lasting ,or it is completely opposite, its just part of propaganda war to demoralise those muslim who want to decide there own destiny ,live there own way . fact is million of muslim love saddam , gaddafi , fiddle-castro , for only one reason because they ware anti Zionist western elite , and Zionist western elite lies about saddam and gaddafi in the same way in front of the world and today everyone knows the troth . fact is today those who feel very proud to be a
moderate muslim ,they must know theory of moderate islam and muslim were launch by western crusader thousand years back to weakening the muslims and they succeeded , so I asked all muslim not to believed what they want us to believed , do your own research and try to find out troth or stay neutral until you sure of troth,
 
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Don't you guys remember in the beginning ISIS was being cheered for by the Western/Israeli members on this forum? Or am I the only one? ISIS was fighting along side rebels. Israeli's were supporting the group. Of course when ISIS got out of control they suddenly started blaming Muslims for that. :lol:

These fuckers are the biggest supporters of ISIS. Israeli's used to support ISIS, now they have to change their narrative. And this is what they say:

1. Assad, Iran , Hezbollah and Hamas all cooperate with ISIS and buy oil from them.

This is how low those rats will stoop.

I don't think the retard members on this forum realize they were cheering for ISIS. They accuse me of supporting ISIS even though I had no clue what the Syrian conflict was about at the time. :lol:

The retard members on this forum need to be used for lab experiments. Instead of testing hypothesises on rats we should test new things on PDF members.


In the beginning everyone was a cheerleader of FSA and its splinter groups...now that things spiraled out of control many members here are trying to wash their hands and their respective countries are trying to wash their hands in international diplomacy...you see I have always regarded the international order as utter piece of s!@#...why ? because...even a lay man life Hitler could get away with doing whatever he wanted...
 
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Rense.com cannot be considered a reliable source. (My own articles excepted, perhaps.)

US invaded Iraq on the premise of them having nukes. Wasn't bombing a country to the stone age an example of violating international law.
Nukes was only one of the reasons and no, "bombing a country to the stone age" is not in and of itself an "example of violating international law", nor is that what the U.S. did in Iraq.

Its easy to say anyway when half the laws in the world arena and UN are made by you. You are a thug and a bully which will ultimately fall.
With the exception of certain Chapter VII Resolutions of the SC, the UN does not make international law; international laws are made between countries. While the C7 Resolution outlawing Pakistan's proxy support of terrorists did not have Pakistan's vote - because Pakistan wasn't on the SC - it did have the vote of Bangladesh.

It is true that Americans though don't give a crap about our people when they are killed.
Your memory is very selective. Americans have helped Pakistanis out of many political-military fixes and numerous natural disasters, yes?

More Iraqis and Afghans and others have been killed rather than Americans. In fact more Americans are killed by their furniture-
What you're saying is, "I haven't killed that many people as xxxx, so let me commit crimes and profit by them."

Military dictators were the ones who received the most vocal support of America. Mostly because they did theior bidding without asking questions.
No, it's more because half the time Pakistan is openly ruled by the Pakistani military, and the rest of the time the military has been dominant in dealing with foreign affairs.

Lol. The largest imperialist in the world calling another nation rogue. Sweet. Not once admitting your countries role in genocide and murder.
One, you're mixing the U.S. up with Britain, or maybe the Soviets or China. Two, since Pakistan is not an American "satellite", it is Pakistan and its ruling Muslims who are responsible for their own decisions - and their consequences.

Pakistanis generally want the Kashmiris to decide their future. Indians want to rule Kashmir.
We're very far from ISIS being a U.S./Israel proxy, aren't we?

Shameless American policy is displayed in this post of yours as lying and deflecting attention is American policy.
Where did I lie? Once I showed ISIS wasn't a U.S./Israel "proxy army" why did you choose to rant on and on about "American policy"?

Why did you support Zia Ul Haq, the man who received the most support from the USA. He was the biggest mullah and terror supporter in the history of Pakistan
Support was cut way back after Z.A.B.'s assassination. But once the Soviets invaded Afghanistan U.S. policymakers saw the USSR as reaching for the Gulf and supported Zia to the hilt. Zia had unusual credibility, having earned the trust of Americans, Arabs, Israelis, etc. when he commanded all in kicking the PLO out of Jordan in 1970, and in de-fusing a terror attack by Muslims in the U.S. in 1978. I suppose American policymakers thought they could trust Zia to control extremists in their proxy war with the Soviet Union - the U.S. supplied money and weapons, Zia controlled where it went.

Change America with Pakistan. And then try to answer the question yourself.
It might be for the best for all American financial support to Pakistan to be cut off. You'd have to collect taxes among yourselves. You'd have to conduct international relations with greater reliability and honesty to earn economic rewards. The result might well be a great moral improvement in Pakistan - if the militants didn't burn the country first, that is.
 
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