Actually, from the details trickling out now, all the attackers were serving personnel.
Which soil is that?
Al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility for Saturday night’s attack on a Naval dockyard in Karachi
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I think u r the best judge for that, seeing your flag......
But I said those comments academically...not for offensive......u will see in coming months, the developments that will take place on both sides of Pakistan's borders and realize what I am saying now. Thx
I think u r the best judge for that, seeing your flag......
But I said those comments academically...not for offensive......u will see in coming months, the developments that will take place on both sides of Pakistan's borders and realize what I am saying now. Thx
My question is also not meant to be offensive, but just to satisfy my curiosity. So I take it from your response that you mean India? Although TTP an AQ have taken responsibility? Maybe you believe that TTP and AQ are Indian creations? No Pakistani would ever form such groups, only Indians do, right? Well, continue living in denial and blaming the great bogeyman for all your troubles. If that's what "naval strategists" do, it explains the colossal intel failure as well as the continued inability to get rid of these groups.
By Indian, AQ means the Indian subcontinent. Their newly opened wing is supposed to be for the whole subcontinent. And guess where they find men on the ground to actually do the fighting?
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quote="janon, post: 6171917, member: 37962"]By Indian, AQ means the Indian subcontinent. Their newly opened wing is supposed to be for the whole subcontinent. And guess where they find men on the ground to actually do the fighting?[/quote]
My friend Janon,
Listen I did not mention Al-qaeda. I know that is not an Indian bogey. I only pointed out the names of organization about whom i credibly know.
And there is nothing to be offended, this is the prime role of spy agencies. for instance, tell me whom did u blame for Khalistan Movement or other separatists movements. ISI !!!. Why??? So please try to understand what i mean. I agree they use mostly our people for this.
Tell me if Orions were detroyed or SABs were damaged, who is the biggest beneficiary. BLA, TTP??? No, of course it is India, this is what I mean t sAY
[/quote]My friend Janon,
Listen I did not mention Al-qaeda. I know that is not an Indian bogey. I only pointed out the names of organization about whom i credibly know.
And there is nothing to be offended, this is the prime role of spy agencies. for instance, tell me whom did u blame for Khalistan Movement or other separatists movements. ISI !!!. Why??? So please try to understand what i mean. I agree they use mostly our people for this.
Tell me if Orions were detroyed or SABs were damaged, who is the biggest beneficiary. BLA, TTP??? No, of course it is India, this is what I mean t sAY
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How many personnal are required to run this ship in worst case scenario is the million doller question. In hypothetical scenario if they manager to steal the ship and fire on any nearby ship whether civilion or military, consequences would be just too deadly. I hope every one remembers firing on cricket team, what happened later everyone knows.
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Steal the ship standing in Karachi harbour!!! I hope this not what you meant to say
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By Indian, AQ means the Indian subcontinent. Their newly opened wing is supposed to be for the whole subcontinent. And guess where they find men on the ground to actually do the fighting?
But their new AQ wing is supposed to be based in India. If they can recruit Pakistani naval officers, we should be vigilant about their recruitment drives in India.
Where did they say based in India? They said we are officially starting a "South Asian" branch. Thats all. Anyway, there were rumours for a long time about AQ in B'desh,(apart from Af-Pak). IM Yasin Bhatkal supposed to have had some links with AQ guys, but thats about it.
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U r right
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You have to read between the lines.
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[/quote]My friend Janon,
Listen I did not mention Al-qaeda. I know that is not an Indian bogey. I only pointed out the names of organization about whom i credibly know.
And there is nothing to be offended, this is the prime role of spy agencies. for instance, tell me whom did u blame for Khalistan Movement or other separatists movements. ISI !!!. Why??? So please try to understand what i mean. I agree they use mostly our people for this.
Tell me if Orions were detroyed or SABs were damaged, who is the biggest beneficiary. BLA, TTP??? No, of course it is India, this is what I mean t sAY[/quote]
Yes we blamed the non state actors(non officially announced) for Khalistan terrorism and our government for not solving the problems of our Sikh community. Our own government failed to provide adequate invironment for Sikh community thats why it became ao much of mess to say the least. It still is but lot better. When Pakistani military platforms are destroyed its certainly good for India but its also a danger for India. As Pakistani Indian border is heavily miltarized and patroled 24/7 continues, its the last line of defence for us. First and only line of defence for us is Pakistan itself and our external intelligence agency and cyber intruisive agency. Pakistan can import or manufacture as much conventional military weapon as it want, India will maintain sizable lead over it. So these few weapons are concern for us but not fearsome to say the least. So yes it is gain in tactical environment but when it comes to strategic environment its plain loss for India. How I will try to explain. If there is a war between India and Pakistan(naval and airforce platform), India can sustain casualties. Lets say Pakistan destroyed 3-4 major ships, will India be doomed. No. Not going into jingoistic saying that my soldiers will zhed their every ounce of blood to defend our country, every patriotic soldier does it for his or her motherland or the country he/she is serving, no doubt about that. Here India can bring eastern fleet or southern fleet for replacement immediately that's what I am saying. Later we can build replacement for those destroyed ships. So keeping this in mind I think its in India's interest to keep those platform safe in Pakistan's hand as it will eventually help them to counter the growing threat of terror from north west and western sector especially middle east battle hardenned terrorists. So my conclusion is that India would like to keep the mommentom going for Pakistani military buildup. As it will act as a first line of defence as well as sock-absorber(we can call it filteration process also). As much as it can hold those terrorists or thin them out, much better for us. Otherwise if we have to face these terrorists directly it will be much bigger problem. Finally these are my personal views, anyone wanna call me for high on weed or something like that. No issuss there also. Thank you
Listen I did not mention Al-qaeda. I know that is not an Indian bogey. I only pointed out the names of organization about whom i credibly know.
And there is nothing to be offended, this is the prime role of spy agencies. for instance, tell me whom did u blame for Khalistan Movement or other separatists movements. ISI !!!. Why??? So please try to understand what i mean. I agree they use mostly our people for this.
Tell me if Orions were detroyed or SABs were damaged, who is the biggest beneficiary. BLA, TTP??? No, of course it is India, this is what I mean t sAY[/quote]
Yes we blamed the non state actors(non officially announced) for Khalistan terrorism and our government for not solving the problems of our Sikh community. Our own government failed to provide adequate invironment for Sikh community thats why it became ao much of mess to say the least. It still is but lot better. When Pakistani military platforms are destroyed its certainly good for India but its also a danger for India. As Pakistani Indian border is heavily miltarized and patroled 24/7 continues, its the last line of defence for us. First and only line of defence for us is Pakistan itself and our external intelligence agency and cyber intruisive agency. Pakistan can import or manufacture as much conventional military weapon as it want, India will maintain sizable lead over it. So these few weapons are concern for us but not fearsome to say the least. So yes it is gain in tactical environment but when it comes to strategic environment its plain loss for India. How I will try to explain. If there is a war between India and Pakistan(naval and airforce platform), India can sustain casualties. Lets say Pakistan destroyed 3-4 major ships, will India be doomed. No. Not going into jingoistic saying that my soldiers will zhed their every ounce of blood to defend our country, every patriotic soldier does it for his or her motherland or the country he/she is serving, no doubt about that. Here India can bring eastern fleet or southern fleet for replacement immediately that's what I am saying. Later we can build replacement for those destroyed ships. So keeping this in mind I think its in India's interest to keep those platform safe in Pakistan's hand as it will eventually help them to counter the growing threat of terror from north west and western sector especially middle east battle hardenned terrorists. So my conclusion is that India would like to keep the mommentom going for Pakistani military buildup. As it will act as a first line of defence as well as sock-absorber(we can call it filteration process also). As much as it can hold those terrorists or thin them out, much better for us. Otherwise if we have to face these terrorists directly it will be much bigger problem. Finally these are my personal views, anyone wanna call me for high on weed or something like that. No issuss there also. Thank you
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