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Aircraft carrier is a glorified training ship per NY times article

indians have been crashing harriers for decades.

That's probably because they have become very old.

Western countries stopped producing that thing quite some time ago. USMC still uses them though (waiting for F-35).

Be-careful, landing an aircraft (any aircraft) on a carrier is the most challenging aspects of a naval fighter pilot's training :lol:
 
However Reuters analysis suggests the role of Varyag will be mostly training and evaluation ahead of the building of domestic carriers, with only a limited operational role. Flight control software, avionics, weapons and radars remain to be developed.
This Carrier is NOT even 50% Ready in Operational Terms !
Why Compare a Toy Gun with a Real One ?
 
Hey moron, you better read up on your history. Ukraine's entire defence industry was completely Russian. In fact, Ukraine was part of the USSR. The ship China has in its possession is originally a Russian Ship, and in order for China to obtain such it needed Russia;s approval for its purchase. Now, this info is what Indians need to wake up and realize...Russia is more of a friend to China than to India.....only way to help India...is to improve our domestic industry which no other country in the world wants us to do including certain elements in the INdian govt, because we are currently a big fat cash cow. India has the ability to improve its domestic weapons industry, we need to expand, commit, and run it like Corporate.

Hey you, dickhead, who told you Ukraine was/is Russian? Not then not now. See that it happens that I have a couple of pals out of Kiev. I guarantee they'd beat the sunlight out of you if you dare venture such crap in their face.

Now it could be hard for your bird brain, but Russians are a Nordic tribe while Ukrainians are a central European one. Both people and languages are different though many Ukrainians speak fluent Russian without even accent, not vice versus. Even being a part of USSR, Ukraine maintained its own culture AND standalone industries/capabilities such as naval designs, ship building skills etc., get it?



India has the ability to improve its domestic weapons industry, we need to expand, commit, and run it like Corporate.

you mean run like a call centre? cuz that's about the only indian corporate, even the brains behind are Brits.:rofl:
 
Replying to the article, obviously China won't use the Aircraft Carrier in any military operation, atleast not anytime soon.

Its mainly for training purposes. Also the Chassis design and the blueprints that came with it. I believe the Chinese got the blueprints for the Aircraft Carrier from Ukraine. Can anyone confirm?

I believe the Chinese will innovate and improve upon whatever technology they got from the Ukraine.

This aircraft carrier along with the blueprints is huge step forward for China.

Congratulations to them. May they have success.
 
This Carrier is NOT even 50% Ready in Operational Terms !
Why Compare a Toy Gun with a Real One ?

At least it's better than 7 out of 8 boiled ship who's is not even 30% operational. And it's not even a toy. It's crap! :lol:
 
EzioAltaïr;3445619 said:
Yeah, and your so-called 25th Century ship is set to become a training toy. :rofl:

a 60,000 ton carrier is just a training ship for the PLA, but a 30,000 ton crap without functional power will be the core of the Indian navy. Who's more pathetic?
 
does matter what its called? it's more capable than your functional crap rusting in russian shipyard for god how long... :lol:

However Reuters analysis suggests the role of Varyag will be mostly training and evaluation ahead of the building of domestic carriers, with only a limited operational role. Flight control software, avionics, weapons and radars remain to be developed.

the carrier is equipped with APAR and sea-eagle radars uses on 052c and 054a in service for years. same with the weapon systems and others on board..

where the hell did reuters and NYT get these so-called experts from?

-j-8 for training takeoff and landing..
-su-230 ?
-no radars..
- no arrester cable blabla

:lol:

varyag23.jpg
 
the carrier is equipped with APAR and sea-eagle radars uses on 052c and 054a in service for years. same with the weapon systems and others on board..
You need functional and proven systems in order to train for something new.

where the hell did reuters get these so-called experts from? lol
From the retired military ranks. Just like the PLAN did from other navies to help it develop into a carrier capable navy.
 
From the retired military ranks. Just like the PLAN did from other navies to help it develop into a carrier capable navy.

well, they obviously not doing their homework deep enough when mentioning the j-8 as main training jet.
 
You need functional and proven systems in order to train for something new.


From the retired military ranks. Just like the PLAN did from other navies to help it develop into a carrier capable navy.

Nope, they got their experts from the same basement you play your USAF playstation games from mate.
 
well, they obviously not doing their homework deep enough when mentioning the j-8 as main training jet.
Installing radars and assorted weapons are not the same thing as installed fighters and crews. Machines do not make mistakes. People do. And when they have to do something they have never done before, it is wise to install the same type of established systems.
 
Let the China dolls boast of their completely chinese (with help from magical ukranian gnomes who were never part of the soviet union) trillion ton carrier with 1000 functional TIE fighters. And your western daddy promises not to laugh.
 
when someone mentioning j-8 as main training jet for carrier he/she obviously has no clue and shouldn't be taken seriously doesn't matter what your credential..
 
Let the China dolls boast of their completely chinese (with help from magical ukranian gnomes who were never part of the soviet union) trillion ton carrier with 1000 functional TIE fighters. And your western daddy promises not to laugh.

Nah we will just laugh when your economies start to fall apart and your military budgets shrink.
Heck already your budgets are being cut and new weapons projects being cancelled.

Western economies cannot cash the checks your politicians, delusional fanboys and military are writing.

Your situation is going to get far far worse.
 

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