Airbus team coming, Rafale deal by March end, say sources

[Sugarcane]

What is that?

Don't know exactly, i guess its sanskrit word, maybe give some kind of boost as Indian often do mantra of this.

 

[sancho]

Technically if shares has no voting rights, it should not be called shares. (at least in India)

That's just a matter of what kind of shares you can get. The main idea of share is, to invest in the company and financially gain from it's success, not to have voting rights or change the policy of the company.

Does French govt. hold any stakes in Dassult? Are they up for a hostile take over?

Dassault Aviation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The part that Airbus held were from the French Airbus side and the government has some influence there, but Dassault is independent and that actually is the problem for the French government too, since they are dependent on Dassault.

 

[hunter_hunted]

Enough man now take it if you guys will not buy it our JF program will not speed up So hurry and buy them

 

[vayuu1]

Don't know exactly, i guess its sanskrit word, maybe give some kind of boost as Indian often do mantra of this.

Tejas , means with aura, in urdu it means noor.

 

[Tshering22]

Cancel it! Now I am against MMRCA.

Just get more modernized MKIs and Tejas jets.

Screw this jet. It is not like we will be fighting the USAF anytime soon.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Cancel it! Now I am against MMRCA.

Just get more modernized MKIs and Tejas jets.

Screw this jet. It is not like we will be fighting the USAF anytime soon.

This would screw the IAF over completely. It would cripple them to have to fly and maintain even more of the notoriously maintenance intensive MKI and you think the LCA (even Mk.2) is a credible deterrent when the PLAAF are developing two "5th gen" fighters??

The Rafale/MMRCA is the only way to go anything different and there is a massive hole in the IAF's capabilities that won't be plugged for at least 15 years.

 

[SrNair]

I think Parrikar shock treatment send shivers in Dassault.Termination of this deal may not be a big issue for Dassault.But it will severly affects their future business prospects in India.

 

[NKVD]

This would screw the IAF over completely. It would cripple them to have to fly and maintain even more of the notoriously maintenance intensive MKI and you think the LCA (even Mk.2) is a credible deterrent when the PLAAF are developing two "5th gen" fighters??

The Rafale/MMRCA is the only way to go anything different and there is a massive hole in the IAF's capabilities that won't be plugged for at least 15 years.

The problem can be corrected by buying fighter's like mig-35 offself or others

Rafale orders will start coming from 2018-19 by the time we induct 1 LCA squadrons

I don't thing Rafale is adding
More to IaF capacity except A2G role for mind busting amount of 20 billions $ which stupendous
And can halt ambitious project like AMCA

As for Fifth generation FGFA fullfill every needs of the IAF of next generation fighter.

 

[Abingdonboy]

The problem can be corrected by buying fighter's like mig-35 offself or others

Rafale orders will start coming from 2018-19 by the time we induct 1 LCA squadrons

I don't thing Rafale is adding
More to IaF capacity except A2G role for mind busting amount of 20 billions $ which stupendous
And can halt ambitious project like AMCA

As for Fifth generation it's full full every needs of the IAF of next generation fighter.

$20 BN is a nonsense figure dreamed up by the Indian media. Anyway 50% of the cost of the deal will be ploughed back into India and will transform the Indian aerospace industry- this keeps getting overlooked. Instead of curtailing the AMCA the Rafale deal will give that project a major boost!

As for the FGFA, it is not the silver bullet. It is an awesome machine but it won't solve all of the IAF's woes and will need to be complemented by something like the Rafale until the AMCA is up to speed (isn't going to happen anytime soon).

Indian Air Power at Risk as Rafale Warplane Deal Delayed - Businessweek

 

[sancho]

The problem can be corrected by buying fighter's like mig-35 offself or others

Rafale orders will start coming from 2018-19 by the time we induct 1 LCA squadrons

I don't thing Rafale is adding
More to IaF capacity except A2G role for mind busting amount of 20 billions $ which stupendous
And can halt ambitious project like AMCA

As for Fifth generation FGFA fullfill every needs of the IAF of next generation fighter.

When FGFA fulfils every need of IAF wrt NG fighters, why do we need AMCA? And if we don't need AMCA, Rafale / MMRCA wouldn't effect the AMCA project either, since it's not needed in the first place!

 

[NKVD]

$20 BN is a nonsense figure dreamed up by the Indian media. Anyway 50% of the cost of the deal will be ploughed back into India and will transform the Indian aerospace industry- this keeps getting overlooked. Instead of curtailing the AMCA the Rafale deal will give that project a major boost!

As for the FGFA, it is not the silver bullet. It is an awesome machine but it won't solve all of the IAF's woes and will need to be complemented by something like the Rafale until the AMCA is up to speed (isn't going to happen anytime soon).

Look I'm fan of Rafale but if it's comes in suitable price which a country like India can afford and that don't affect our future projects

Look The deal was dragged to long and it skipped timeline's
Wonder how much time it will take to get through with this deal

Plus our indigenous achievements are improving day by day with cooperation of other partners like Israel
We designed our own BVR & AESA & EW suites

our aerospace industry is already matured by developing Mki & Tejas yes it is not upto par with Western standards but it will be get better with the development of FGFA which better deal in terms of Actual TOT is much better substitution for our Future aviation industry as well in terms of tech.

 

[NKVD]

When FGFA fulfils every need of IAF wrt NG fighters, why do we need AMCA? And if we don't need AMCA, Rafale / MMRCA wouldn't effect the AMCA project either, since it's not needed in the first place!

So you saying we pay billions of $ just to get A2G capabilities better take Saab deal then
It's cost effective & better.

 

[sancho]

So you saying we pay billions of $ just to get A2G capabilities better take Saab deal then
It's cost effective & better.

No, we are paying billions for one of the best 4.5th gen fighters available today not only beyond 2019 like the Gripen (with capabilities being reduced every year) or the AMCA beyond 2027 accroding DRDO officials, a good ToT and offset package, which is complying to our high demands and therefor will be a huge input for our industry, .
If you want a capable fighter and industrial advantages today MMRCA is the only option and the only suitable choices to our requirments are Rafale and EF.

 

[Echo_419]

Cancel it! Now I am against MMRCA.

Just get more modernized MKIs and Tejas jets.

Screw this jet. It is not like we will be fighting the USAF anytime soon.

Todhi zyadaa daru pe li hai lagtaa hai aaj

No, we are paying billions for one of the best 4.5th gen fighters available today not only beyond 2019 like the Gripen (with capabilities being reduced every year) or the AMCA beyond 2027 accroding DRDO officials, a good ToT and offset package, which is complying to our high demands and therefor will be a huge input for our industry, .
If you want a capable fighter and industrial advantages today MMRCA is the only option and the only suitable choices to our requirments are Rafale and EF.

The french needs to sign this deal ASAP or they are gonna loose a lot of money & the brits will find it

 

[NKVD]

No, we are paying billions for one of the best 4.5th gen fighters available today not only beyond 2019

We already 4.5 gen fighter in our Inventory which Suitable to Meets our Demands Today As well as future with Upgrades. MMrca Delivery Date are Far beyond Timelines which 2018-19 Buy then we have A squardons of LCA Mk1 And Lca mk2 will be in Prototype Phase Better if we Involve Saab in its Development .

a good ToT and offset package, which is complying to our high demands and therefor will be a huge input for our industry,

Not Better Package than FGFA which is a Better Industrial Package compared to MMrca Plus its generation Ahead than Both EF & Rafale if your Not Fan-boy of Western Fetish.