Air pollution in Beijing reaches hazardous levels

[Audio]

there are many reasons for the current polution in beijing:
1.too many cars
2.too many manufacturing enterprises,although have moved some big polluting enterprises during the past several years,it is still one of the biggest Industrial cities in the world
3.crowded urban construction,tens of millions people live in such a small area with so many tall buildings.
4.location.the nearest desert is only 90kms away from Beijing,which is a big threat
5.dry and windy climate.cold wind mixed with a lot of sand blowing everyday in winter from Siberia,everyday there are several sandstorms here.
6.heating,a lot of coal and natural gas are burned to provide heat.

Thanks for a sincere post.

1.) Buy European! Best cars, for you and the planet! (ironically, i own a Civic)
2.) Filters? I understand they are expensive, and detract some tenths of a percent from growth, but the positive effects cannot be denied.
3.-5.) I got nothing for this.
6.) Again, filters and maybe a step away from the coal.

 

[beijingwalker]

And btw.. it's the official CPC advice to Beijingers .... Don't get the fcuking out of your homes, it's death outside.

death outside?it's bad ,but don't try to create a scare out of it,you sound like it is another doomsday.I was outside whole day today and I m still alive and kicking,Have you ever been to Beijing before,Beijing has 20 million people and successful hosted 2008 Olympic games.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

that was 200 years ago...but if your point is to concede to the fact the Chinese have business practices from the Victorian era....

Goodness, American educated dimwits telling me the history of Europe. Smog was a regular phenomenon until well into the 1960s and 1970s in most parts of Europe. I still remember that even in the 1980s we had several smog warnings per year in Germany.

The victorian era smog would mean that people would drop dead on the street on a regular basis due to toxic air, which AFAIK does not happen in China.

 

[djsjs]

Thanks for a sincere post.

1.) Buy European! Best cars, for you and the planet! (ironically, i own a Civic)
2.) Filters? I understand they are expensive, and detract some tenths of a percent from growth, but the positive effects cannot be denied.
3.-5.) I got nothing for this.
6.) Again, filters and maybe a step away from the coal.

I estimate the car problems will be solved in about 10 years.
firstly, the public transport of beijing will be much better,with metro lines of more than 1000 kms and more buses.people will prefer public transport than driving.
secondly,our government heavily subsidize the new energy vehicles and we already have some domestic car manufacturers which produce electric vehicles or hybrid vehicles.more and more people will buy electric cars for the rapid rise in oil prices.
BYD-E6

 

[Audio]

Goodness, American educated dimwits telling me the history of Europe. Smog was a regular phenomenon until well into the 1960s and 1970s in most parts of Europe. I still remember that even in the 1980s we had several smog warnings per year in Germany.

The victorian era smog would mean that people would drop dead on the street on a regular basis due to toxic air, which AFAIK does not happen in China.

You made it sound like it was happening not so long ago. Old fart!

 

[Götterdämmerung]

"smog" is a british word ...

china has given it a "new meaning".... gassification is the correct word if the correct meaning has to be communicated.

And btw.. it's the official CPC advice to Beijingers .... Don't get the fcuking out of your homes, it's death outside.

I just caught you pants down with your lies that Delhi has clean air and what not.

Duh, I just told you that smog is a British invented word made of fog and smoke. Why are you repeating that? Are you dim in the head?

Gassification is the thinking of a sick fascist mind that is prevalent in many Indian heads. While the Chinese government is concerned about the health of their citizens and give out warnings like we do here in Europe when we expect smog, the Indian gov. just blame it on burning hay and let their people, as you said it, "gassified".

 

[Audio]

I estimate the car problems will be solved in about 10 years.
firstly, the public transport of beijing will be much better,with metro lines of more than 1000 kms and more buses.people will prefer public transport than driving.

Wishful thinking!
No up and coming lower middle class-middle class would want to ride in a bus/train, remnants of socialist era mass transport, when there are nice shiny new cars available for cheap credit.
Case in point would be unification of W. and E. Germany. After it, the youth in the East, accustomed to driving Lada's and Moskvich cars got a hold of cheap used German made cars from the Western half of the country. Noone even thought about public transport.

secondly,our government heavily subsidize the new energy vehicles and we already have some domestic car manufacturers which produce electric vehicles or hybrid vehicles.more and more people will buy electric cars for the rapid rise in oil prices.
BYD-E6

Hopefully, it does not cost 40.000$. I've had a debate about electric vehicles with another Chinese poster. My position was that for 40k$ people will buy something with a sporty/luxury feel to it. Not electric Golf.

 

[jbond197]

I just caught you pants down with your lies that Delhi has clean air and what not.

Duh, I just told you that smog is a British invented word made of fog and smoke. Why are you repeating that? Are you dim in the head?

Gassification is the thinking of a sick fascist mind that is prevalent in many Indian heads. While the Chinese government is concerned about the health of their citizens and give out warnings like we do here in Europe when we expect smog, the Indian gov. just blame it on burning hay and let their people, as you said it, "gassified".

Is India the topic here? Why loser Chinis when run out of options in debate start attacking the messenger? Is there a comparison analysis done in the OP or you got an itch to attack since the article is posted by Indian? Loser...

Is the OP stating the incorrect facts? Sicko if you want to defend or prove that OP has some kind of bias then post the facts that you have. Talking crap about any other country will not make you Chini look any better...

 

[Götterdämmerung]

You made it sound like it was happening not so long ago. Old fart!

As a matter of fact, smog is still a huge problem in the US:
U.S. Air Quality

Air Pollution - More Than Half of U.S. Population Lives in Counties with Unsafe Air

Here is a pic from L.A. in 2011

 

[AADHAAR]

I think this Gotter-Motter should be sentenced to one month in beijing ..

 

[Götterdämmerung]

Is India the topic here? Why loser Chinis when run out of options in debate start attacking the messenger? Is there a comparison analysis done in the OP or you got an itch to attack since the article is posted by Indian? Loser...

Is the OP stating the incorrect facts? Sicko if you want to defend or prove that OP has some kind of bias then post the facts that you have. Talking crap about any other country will not make you Chini look any better...

Blabla, the OP is Indian and an Indian lied about Delhi having clean air and what not. Talking crap about other countries does not make India look good either. In fact, since China is so much ahead of India in practically all economic, social, political and military indicators, this thread just shows what a bunch of jealous losers you guys are.

 

[Audio]

As a matter of fact, smog is still a huge problem in the US:
U.S. Air Quality

Air Pollution - More Than Half of U.S. Population Lives in Counties with Unsafe Air

Here is a pic from L.A. in 2011

Old fart!, Im not from the US.

50 km away

 

[jbond197]

As a matter of fact, smog is still a huge problem in the US:
U.S. Air Quality

Air Pollution - More Than Half of U.S. Population Lives in Counties with Unsafe Air

Here is a pic from L.A. in 2011

Would you open different thread and discuss it there?

Let's talk about the smog in China for now..

 

[Götterdämmerung]

I think this Gotter-Motter should be sentenced to one month in beijing ..

Out of argument? Have to resort to insult?

If you pay me the first-class ticket and I can choose the time, sure. October is my favourite month.

 

[jbond197]

Beijing residents choke in record smog levels

Beijing (CNN) -- An acrid blanket of gray shrouded the Chinese capital for a third day Sunday, leading to a rare smog warning as the index hit record levels.
Data show air quality index soared past the highest level of 500. Anything past that is regarded as "beyond index."
As the number soared, the streets got emptier. The sun, peeking shyly behind the hazy blanket, was barely visible.
Authorities warned residents to cut down on outdoor activities and take shelter indoors.
Reports of respiratory problems -- and sale of masks -- skyrocketed, according to state media.
The U.S. Embassy in Beijing recorded an index of over 700 on Saturday, but the number had lowered by Sunday.

Beijing residents say pollution is worsening despite authorities' assertions that air quality has improved since the city hosted the 2008 Olympic Games.
Last year, heavy haze and smog forced the cancellation of almost 700 flights at Beijing airports.

The city is comparable to Los Angeles, another gray city, according to experts.
"With their difficult meteorological conditions and a large number of pollution sources, addressing pollution is a long-term and difficult task," Deborah Seligsohn, adviser of the World Resources Institute, said last year. The agency runs a climate energy and pollution program in China.
Los Angeles has battled air pollution since the 1950s, well before U.S. national regulation, according to Seligsohn.
"Stilll in the 1970s, 20 years later, it was famous for its smog," she said. "In the 40-plus years since the Clean Air Act was passed, L.A. has never been fully in compliance with EPA standards, even though it has continued to improve."
Read more: China must come clean on pollution
European Commission figures show that China produced 9.7 million kilotons of carbon dioxide while the United States had 5.42 million kilotons in 2011, the latest available numbers.
The weekend's pollution levels have prompted an "orange fog" warning in Beijing because of diminished visibility, according to state-run Xinhua news agency.
"Pollutants have gradually accumulated over the course of recent windless days, making the air quality even worse," said Zhu Tong, an environmental sciences professor at Peking University told news agency.
Beijing will remain covered in gray until Wednesday, when the wind will sweep in to the rescue and blow the smog away, according to state media.