Air force to buy long-range radar by Tk 147cr

[Michael Corleone]

check my 2nd post about the radar, it has 500km range :/

I meant is it a short band frequency radar... Short band radars can detect stealth aircrafts. It wasn't mentioned on the second post.

I hope this is fake, this is a massive waste of money. India will never attack Bangladesh and India should try to promote peace between Bangaldesh and Burma.

Bangladesh will never attack India... So why setup missile batteries on east coast? Why even maintain an army for that matter... It's every countries own personal matter.

This is a threat to us? What will BD use with the information it gathers? How will you protect this radar from DEAD/SEAD that IAF will do right away in any conflict?

Do you understand such radars are only good at discerning high-RCS targets past say 100 km? High volume search beyond that will give no discernment of what type of aerial target it is (i.e is it a cargo aircraft or a large weather balloon) without significant algorithm development by Radar science engineers....which the less said about Bangladesh the better. You understand why this costs 147 cr taka (20 mil USD) and not something way more like say 100 million like a green pine?

I mean an L-band vanilla radar may be a game changer considering having nothing before for BD:

http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/rat-31dl

But its not anything India will even notice, given Delhi gave permission to acquire it (and also why you didnt select the chinese one on offer....as loudly as you defence types say China is your biggest strategic partner blah blah).

So its a good acquisition maybe to use with Myanmar. With India the eastern sector is mostly quiet as far as our threat assessment.

And yes India will be making a visit or two and ground-verify this radar too...the regular friendly courtesy call of dada.

No one is threatening y'all. If you all feel threatened by us then it's a pity... Don't be America!!!! Scared of each and everything including themselves

 

[Nilgiri]

I meant is it a short band frequency radar... Short band radars can detect stealth aircrafts. It wasn't mentioned on the second post.

a) The volume search resolution of this particular radar will be limited (for low -RCS) beyond immediate airspace of Bangladesh. The aperture resolution of L-band simply is not there....even if its updated with newer gen GaN or even old gen Ga-As....which as far I know this vanilla system does not have (its main feature of note is a large phased array antenna which gives it a strong detection range for average RCS bogies....but engagement/tracking range will be a certain fraction of this only).

b) To detect low RCS means you have to have this radar operate at peak power. That means it becomes an even bigger SEAD and DEAD target.

c) 20 million dollars of hardware will be arrayed against billions of dollars on the other side. An L-Band radar definiltey does not have an asymmetric warfare ratio of 50+

No one is threatening y'all. If you all feel threatened by us then it's a pity... Don't be America!!!! Scared of each and everything including themselves

Was responding to the person saying what is the threat posed by this to India.

 

[Michael Corleone]

a) The volume search resolution of this particular radar will be limited (for low -RCS) beyond immediate airspace of Bangladesh. The aperture resolution of L-band simply is not there....even if its updated with newer gen GaN or even old gen Ga-As....which as far I know this vanilla system does not have (its main feature of note is a large phased array antenna which gives it a strong detection range for average RCS bogies....but engagement/tracking range will be a certain fraction of this only).

b) To detect low RCS means you have to have this radar operate at peak power. That means it becomes an even bigger SEAD and DEAD target.

c) 20 million dollars of hardware will be arrayed against billions of dollars on the other side. An L-Band radar definiltey does not have an asymmetric warfare ratio of 50+
.

Isn't it a l band radar? It's written in wiki

Was responding to the person saying what is the threat posed by this to India.

Ignore the trolls

 

[Nilgiri]

Isn't it a l band radar? It's written in wiki

Yah its L-band as i posted in the link earlier from the manufacturer. (You can check the pdf brochure).

L-band, S-band and others have some very well known drawbacks to compensate for their advantages in RCS detection given their wavelength size mimics many aircraft features.

Not a game-changer. Everyone learnt a lot from the best case scenario for L-Band during the F-117 shootdown in Kosovo. Whole doctrines have since evolved.

Here you go again (if indeed this is the radar being talked about since someone quoted 500 km range):

http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/rat-31dl

 

[UKBengali]

Well you asked my thoughts on it being a threat to India....and I gave it to you.

Of course BD obviously has to focus on Economy first and such acquisitions will give you a good hedge against Myanmar for time being.

But to pose a threat to India will need something way beyond forces plan 2030.

Deterrence can be debated, but we will have to see what the actual realisation of plan 2030 will be.

Out of interest can you summarise the major salient and direct aims/features of plan 2030 here?

Is there anything for example that talks in depth about the C4I Bangladesh seeks to develop/implement rather than just end-point acquisitions?

The only concrete item in the plan is 10 squadrons of modern fighters - that will make 160 fighter aircraft
in total. When complete as you can see BD airforce won't exactly be a pushover for Indian air force like it is
now.

It talks about using all the latest technology and tools to turn into a hi-tech fighting force, so things like
C4I will be a critical component of BD military.

A lot of people forget that BD will actually become quite a large country GDP-wise over the coming decades
and so will have ample funds to build a capable military.

 

[Nilgiri]

The only concrete item in the plan is 10 squadrons of modern fighters - that will make 160 fighter aircraft
in total. When complete as you can see BD airforce won't exactly be a pushover for Indian air force like it is
now.

It talks about using all the latest technology and tools to turn into a hi-tech fighting force, so things like
C4I will be a critical component of BD military.

A lot of people forget that BD will actually become quite a large country GDP-wise over the coming decades
and so will have ample funds to build a capable military.

Thats a pretty vague plan. Guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[arp2041]

whole west bengal will be under radar @scorpionx goblu will not be able to hide

Yeah....you should keep an eye on Kolkata Police drones...........

In the event of war, it will be drones who will collect the information before the Kolkata Traffic Police attacks BD from land & Coastal police from water............

The war will end BD before Green House Effect could...........

 

[ThE-ShOwStOpPeR]

Good news Bangladesh should focus on defense more since a big enemy lurking next to their homeland. If they want to save their economy and sovereignty they need to work on Pakistan like model minimum credible deterrence. They should also start work on nuclear field.

 

[arp2041]

a) The volume search resolution of this particular radar will be limited (for low -RCS) beyond immediate airspace of Bangladesh. The aperture resolution of L-band simply is not there....even if its updated with newer gen GaN or even old gen Ga-As....which as far I know this vanilla system does not have (its main feature of note is a large phased array antenna which gives it a strong detection range for average RCS bogies....but engagement/tracking range will be a certain fraction of this only).

b) To detect low RCS means you have to have this radar operate at peak power. That means it becomes an even bigger SEAD and DEAD target.

c) 20 million dollars of hardware will be arrayed against billions of dollars on the other side. An L-Band radar definiltey does not have an asymmetric warfare ratio of 50+
.

Low RCS?L-band??SEAD??? In BD Defense Forum???????

Are you serious dude?

 

[UKBengali]

Yeah....you should keep an eye on Kolkata Police drones...........

In the event of war, it will be drones who will collect the information before the Kolkata Traffic Police attacks BD from land & Coastal police from water............

The war will end BD before Green House Effect could...........

Would love to see Kolkata police being machine gunned by our infantry.

 

[arp2041]

They should also start work on nuclear field.

Already started..........

Infact here is a pic of nuke they tested on 1st April this year.................

The only concrete item in the plan is 10 squadrons of modern fighters - that will make 160 fighter aircraft
in total.

Will these 160 include 140 extra stealth F-22 BD Raptors?

Or is BD planning to settle on lesser stealthy F-35 BD Lightning II??

I think BD should join Indo-Russian FGFA as this would make it the bestest stealthest fighter in the world with BD's Technological know-how with financial burden in the ratio as 25:25:50 = india:russia:BD !!

 

[Nilgiri]

Low RCS?L-band??SEAD??? In BD Defense Forum???????

Are you serious dude?

Having a couple circuits in my lambo around a mud track, just to know how it feels like hehe.

 

[arp2041]

To be really fair while wearing my "defense" hat.......it's a total WASTE of resources.........

In case of war with even Myanmar, BD will lose badly not to mention what will happen in case of war with India.........

BD forces ( ) will have no choice but to run with lungi between there legs..........

Instead BD should invest in life support systems & titanic like life boats in case of BD drowning in BoB..........

This from True Admirer of BD!!
arp2041

After 2020 BD air-force should
really be looking for a 5th generation fighter.

Not to forget that BD Navy ( BD has Navy? ) should look to Induct latest ford class carriers into there fleet (fleet??? )

I hope this is fake, this is a massive waste of money. India will never attack Bangladesh and India should try to promote peace between Bangaldesh and Burma.

You are right....India will never attack BD....it's like whole NATO attacking Seychelles or Russia attacking Lithuania.........or China attacking Fiji...in short it will be not even can be called as a Fight as stated in Oxford Dictionary.....

But we should supply weapons - frigates, destroyers, aircraft carrier, fighters, MBTs to Burma...........arm them to the teeth.....then just enjoy the bang bang that BD gets in the hands of Myanmar!!

 

[UKBengali]

But we should supply weapons - frigates, destroyers, aircraft carrier, fighters, MBTs to Burma...........arm them to the teeth.....then just enjoy the bang bang that BD gets in the hands of Myanmar!!

So you will buy weapons fromy abroad and then give to Myanmar?

 

[arp2041]

So you will buy weapons fromy abroad and then give to Myanmar?

Weapons are weapons....weather imported or not.......but i guess being a bdian this fact cant be easily put into ur brain!