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AI Turkish drone killers is a breakthrough in a war ?.

"Turkish drones will soon be as capable as their Israeli and Chinese Counterparts"

eh what? Turkish drones exceed both nations who is the author some retard who has zero clue about UAV?

probably not google experts but analysts who do research
the article is in English, you have to have a minimum level to understand it,
if you knew how to follow a conversation you would have read the article
Maybe I'll take you to our facilities and sees what they are working on, come, be my guest. :cheers:
What is the manufacturer of the engines on your fighter jets?
all Chinese fighter jets are model-based of Russian aircraft engines, ...
First, the WS-10A China, regularly broke down after only 30 hours of use. There are many reasons for these failures. First of all, Russia knows that China has stolen its intellectual property in the past and is reluctant to sell Beijing its best engines. Moscow also does not sell engines on its own, but integrates them into existing jets, making it difficult to copy them.

Second, reverse engineering skills do not easily translate into skills in developing new jet engines from scratch. This requires technological know-how, the development of which requires years of intensive learning and generations for further development.
 
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probably not google experts but analysts who do research
the article is in English, you have to have a minimum level to understand it,
if you knew how to follow a conversation you would have read the article
He supported the Turkish position,but you still mocked him. Why?
 
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@The Eagle

PleAyse merge this thread with the other general Turkish UAV/UCAV thread. There is no need for yet another one.
 
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What is the manufacturer of the engines on your fighter jets?
all Chinese fighter jets are model-based of Russian aircraft engines, ...
First, the WS-10A China, regularly broke down after only 30 hours of use. There are many reasons for these failures. First of all, Russia knows that China has stolen its intellectual property in the past and is reluctant to sell Beijing its best engines. Moscow also does not sell engines on its own, but integrates them into existing jets, making it difficult to copy them.

Second, reverse engineering skills do not easily translate into skills in developing new jet engines from scratch. This requires technological know-how, the development of which requires years of intensive learning and generations for further development.


Wrong again … the WS-10 is not based on any Russian design but on the CFM-56‘s core.
And that sales argument is wrong too since Russia always delivers engines even without integration into existing jets. All J-10 fighters, the early J-20s and all D-30KP2 for H-6 bombers and Y-20s were delivered just as engines.

That‘s exactly the point, you are constantly portraying yourself as an aviation expert but again you don‘t Gert the most simple facts correct. As I expected: just a „google expert“, so before again arguing again against anything from China do your homework First, and do it correctly.

@IblinI
 
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"Turkish drones will soon be as capable as their Israeli and Chinese Counterparts"

eh what? Turkish drones exceed both nations who is the author some retard who has zero clue about UAV?
How is it Turkish drones are better than Israeli drones when the Turks took there drone parts from other countries like Israel and Austria??!
 
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probably not google experts but analysts who do research
the article is in English, you have to have a minimum level to understand it,
if you knew how to follow a conversation you would have read the article

What is the manufacturer of the engines on your fighter jets?
all Chinese fighter jets are model-based of Russian aircraft engines, ...
First, the WS-10A China, regularly broke down after only 30 hours of use. There are many reasons for these failures. First of all, Russia knows that China has stolen its intellectual property in the past and is reluctant to sell Beijing its best engines. Moscow also does not sell engines on its own, but integrates them into existing jets, making it difficult to copy them.

Second, reverse engineering skills do not easily translate into skills in developing new jet engines from scratch. This requires technological know-how, the development of which requires years of intensive learning and generations for further development.
Skipped the whole thing after reading the first two lines and may I ask what is your point and what does all this has anything to do with what I wrote?
 
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He supported the Turkish position,but you still mocked him. Why?
Wrong again … the WS-10 is not based on any Russian design but on the CFM-56‘s core.
And that sales argument is wrong too since Russia always delivers engines even without integration into existing jets. All J-10 fighters, the early J-20s and all D-30KP2 for H-6 bombers and Y-20s were delivered just as engines.

That‘s exactly the point, you are constantly portraying yourself as an aviation expert but again you don‘t Gert the most simple facts correct. As I expected: just a „google expert“, so before again arguing again against anything from China do your homework First, and do it correctly.

@IblinI

well you have to inform yourself, your government lied to you, Chinese engines have no reliability, moreover which uses engines made in China for its fighter planes,

single engine of a Boeing 747 civilian airliner, for example, has at least 40,000 parts. Temperatures in this engine can reach 1370 ° C, and its fan blades can rotate more than 3000 times per minute during a flight of several hours.

Blueprints for such an engine can be copied, but the secrets of producing and shaping metal parts that can withstand these temperatures and run at such high speeds for thousands of hours - not to mention the external factors like wind resistance and corrosion - without breaking are not easy to find.


China is more than aware of its engine problems. Liu Daxiang, deputy director of the science and technology committee of the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China, called the development of domestic jet engines a 'serious and urgent political task' last year and said China was facing an 'unprecedented challenge.'
We must recognize the limits of Chinese state-owned enterprises in terms of innovation. '.
Chinese sources told Insider that the WS-15, an engine designed specifically for the J-20, 'could be finished within a year or two' and that once those engines are installed, the J-20 will be. ' tied 'with the fifth-generation American F-22 Raptor.




Chinese sources told Insider that the WS-15, an engine designed specifically for the J-20, 'could be finished within a year or two' and that once those engines are installed, the J-20 will be. ' tied 'with the fifth-generation American F-22 Raptor.
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He supported the Turkish position,but you still mocked him. Why?
when you come back to us with arguments, I've already asked you to talk about technology or military, the majority of your comments are empty.
Is it difficult for Σαπφώ / Sapphṓ to find topics?
 
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Turkey didn't only become the first country to use AI in war or laser weapons but it has revolutionized the entire warfare doctrine into a new modern warfare doctrine..
Can do attitude
The Turks dont say we can do it because this or that or the other. They look at their resources and get on with it
 
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well you have to inform yourself, your government lied to you, Chinese engines have no reliability, moreover which uses engines made in China for its fighter planes,

Again, why this obsession to call me a Chinese, to constantly tell "my government"! Is thsi again pure stupidity or ignorance, I'm a German and everyone knows that since I make no secret of it.
But to your again wrong claim:

...single engine of a Boeing 747 civilian airliner, for example, has at least 40,000 parts. Temperatures in this engine can reach 1370 ° C, and its fan blades can rotate more than 3000 times per minute during a flight of several hours.

Blueprints for such an engine can be copied, but the secrets of producing and shaping metal parts that can withstand these temperatures and run at such high speeds for thousands of hours - not to mention the external factors like wind resistance and corrosion - without breaking are not easy to find.

All correct, I never denied thsi, but it was not the point ... as such it is useless :blah: balahblahblah to hide your faults again:

China is more than aware of its engine problems. Liu Daxiang, deputy director of the science and technology committee of the state-owned Aviation Industry Corporation of China, called the development of domestic jet engines a 'serious and urgent political task' last year and said China was facing an 'unprecedented challenge.'
We must recognize the limits of Chinese state-owned enterprises in terms of innovation. '.
Chinese sources told Insider that the WS-15, an engine designed specifically for the J-20, 'could be finished within a year or two' and that once those engines are installed, the J-20 will be. ' tied 'with the fifth-generation American F-22 Raptor.

Oh well ... Yes, China is well aware of its situation and I did not deny this too, but therefore again I'm not sure if this is an instinct or reflex to divert to something different or always turn into an aggressive mode, but I never defended Chinese engines, I never said they were as reliable as airliners engines ... all I said - and if you would be an honest man, you would admit this - was to correct your wrong claim that:

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So again to learn:

1. the WS-10 is based on the CFM-56's core
2. all AL-31FN delivered for all J-10A/B/early C, all J-11/-15 and J-20s were delivered directly from Russia with love :smitten:exactly like all D-30KP2 for all H-6K/J/N and y-20.

3. Yes, the original WS-10 had severe issues, but since 2009 thsi is at least sol much solved that no Flanker uses Russian engines any more.
 
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Drones that are armed to kill and use artificial intelligence to pick targets is fast becoming a reality.



Last year, the United Nations released a report that a Turkish-made drone using AI was used in Libya by one of the factions against its opponents, which, if later confirmed, could become the first documented case of automated machines killing humans.

The four-fan-powered Turkish drone can apparently be launched as a group, which then trails around to collect information, analyze data from the ground, and then decide to launch attacks. No need for a commander to control and give orders, which means there will be little clue as to who is behind the attack


 
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Kashmiri freedom fighters can definitely use some of these with good effect
 
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