Ahmedi community linked literature seized, printing press sealed

[haviZsultan]

Do you have a plan?

We are taught to call a wrong a wrong. That is the first step to anything. Otherwise if I am in a position of power I will try to change things. But I am not.

 

[Musafir117]

Kudos , you're one of a good i met ahmadi then .

You know I know a girl , from ahmadi background and she'll mention how much she hates pakistan because her brother was taunted by some igniorant fools .
She prays for destruction of pakistan.

While on other side , I've a muslim friend who lost her only brother in a shia attack and she will ever pray for the power of pakistan.

You are fkn lying despite continuing discrimination on Ahmidi Muslims in Pakistan killing them torture them burning them alive arresting them the Head of Ahmaddiya community always in his sermons requests Ahmadiya community to keep remember Pakistan in your prayers. Stop bringing here your home made story.
On topic Govt of Punja banned it but there were no Law pass on it as case were in court and there is no hearing on it since 2015. @Pakistani Exile hope they come out on bail Inshallah.

 

[Spring Onion]

The judge's order had no time limit. Apparently the authorities need a hearing to make their case and cannot seize this material on what amounts to their own judgment - a whim.

i don't know the details of the case so can't comment right now. but since the constitution has already banned propagation of qadiyaniat hence fresh or old the material is illegal.

You people use these heavy words as if they are nothing, what the Turks did to the armenians was genocide, the Burmese suppression of Rohingas, however deplorable, not even close to genocide.

What I meant was Ahmadis are like stateless citizens whose rights has been severely curbed in Pakistan, not by common people or mulla, but by the constitution

for example?

 

[The Sandman]

You people use these heavy words as if they are nothing, what the Turks did to the armenians was genocide, the Burmese suppression of Rohingas, however deplorable, not even close to genocide.

What I meant was Ahmadis are like stateless citizens whose rights has been severely curbed in Pakistan, not by common people or mulla, but by the constitution

Read post 55 as for the rest of the post as i said they do get discriminated which is just terrible and there is no justification for it but things are changing what mullahs have done will take some time to change although i don't support NS but he is doing a lot for our minorities like how we just honored our national hero DR. Abdus Salam see things are changing and i will say it again Ahmdias are as patriotic as any other Pakistani no matter what their religion is.

 

[Pakistani E]

So Police can act against everyone in Pakistan but it should never touch Qadyanis as they are pure and they always have ready-to-play victim card ?

LoL. Every one has the right to complain. We are only complaining in words, there are some who complain with weapons and explosions and threats. No one touches them.

Also the both publications are internal meant for Ahmadis. If sectarion Mullahs can still hold anti Ahmadi speeches and conferences in the centre of Rabwah with police protection, then I have the right to publish whatever I want.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

Even muslims in India accept those provisions that are in our constitution. Ask any mullah near you.

Dude if one thing about my country that I am truly proud of is my constitution, which is absolutely free of bigotry and discrimination, Ahmadis are muslims as per our law, it hardly matters what my neighborhood mulla has to say about this

 

[Valar Dohaeris]

You are fkn lying despite continuing discrimination on Ahmidi Muslims in Pakistan killing them torture them burning them alive arresting them the Head of Ahmaddiya community always in his sermons requests Ahmadiya community to keep remember Pakistan in your prayers. Stop bringing here your home made story.
On topic Govt of Punja banned it but there were no Law pass on it as case were in court and there is no hearing on it since 2015. @Pakistani Exile hope they come out on bail Inshallah.

And would you tell us what exactly they pray for Pakistan in those sermons ?

 

[Well.wisher]

If it is for their safety then bloody protect them from the ba*stards who might hurt them.


So? If it is innovation then let the almighty sort them out.

There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

Plz don't interpret the verse for your purpose .
Sorry , I dont support teaching wrong to common people as there are chances that lay people may be deceived .

The sect that doesn't believe in finality of prophet should not be taught to anyone .

 

[YeBeWarned]

Nothing like Rohingyas at all, I still believe that the vast majority of Pakistanis are tolerant and accepting even if they are not shy to say they have religious differences. The problem is certain constitutional and legal barriers put in place that stop us from worshiping however we want. And of course the constant conspiracy theories spread around by certain clergymen and others who paint us as super evil villains plotting against Pakistan.

Also the Rohingyas issue cannot be compared with Ahmadis. Ahmadis are amongst the founding fathers of Pakistan and proud citizens, several Ahmadis have reached very high positions, there is no Ahmadi genocide going on. Yes there are extreme problems for some and I wished for them to be resolved. It was worse before but I personally think Pakistan is improving a lot, for example the ones responsible for Ahmadi mosque attacks in Lahore were hanged. Which is very endearing considering the fact that normally police did not even bother to investigate cases properly before.

I don't believe the state has the right to dictate to me that I identify myself as something that I don't consider myself to be. For example if tomorrow the world legislates that I am now a "Monkey", it does not make me one and I won't start calling myself a monkey just because the majority feels that way.

PS: I don't speak for the Ahmadiyya community. I am just an individual who happens to be an Ahmadi. The above mentioned facts are just my opinion.

Can't Agree more with you, and lets not forget the Founder of Extremism in Pakistan Zia-ul-NaHaq who destroyed Pakistani Society and create a Religious barrier between Friends and Family .. My Dad often told me before the Zia in their old Neighborhood in Lahore Sunni , Shia , Ahmadi , Christian , Hindu live together and when in 65 the Lahori's take the streets to protect the city while ARmy was busy in Fighting , the Lashker have all minorities ..

there are scum bags who somehow will try to justify the acts of Taliban too , so i am not Surprised if someone dictate that Ahmadi should leave Pakistan ,i have nothing but a middle finger to them ..
Religious Persecution will take Pakistan nowhere , no matter what we do , no matter how much blood we give for this land , but people like Indians will always find such news to bash Pakistan ..

there is nowhere in Quran or Islam that you can not live with non Muslim side by side without slitting their throats .

 

[The Sandman]

Ahmadis are muslims as per our law

Guys it will be a good thing if we stay away from this debate.

 

[marj666]

Nothing like Rohingyas at all, I still believe that the vast majority of Pakistanis are tolerant and accepting even if they are not shy to say they have religious differences. The problem is certain constitutional and legal barriers put in place that stop us from worshiping however we want. And of course the constant conspiracy theories spread around by certain clergymen and others who paint us as super evil villains plotting against Pakistan.

Also the Rohingyas issue cannot be compared with Ahmadis. Ahmadis are amongst the founding fathers of Pakistan and proud citizens, several Ahmadis have reached very high positions, there is no Ahmadi genocide going on. Yes there are extreme problems for some and I wished for them to be resolved. It was worse before but I personally think Pakistan is improving a lot, for example the ones responsible for Ahmadi mosque attacks in Lahore were hanged. Which is very endearing considering the fact that normally police did not even bother to investigate cases properly before.

I don't believe the state has the right to dictate to me that I identify myself as something that I don't consider myself to be. For example if tomorrow the world legislates that I am now a "Monkey", it does not make me one and I won't start calling myself a monkey just because the majority feels that way.

PS: I don't speak for the Ahmadiyya community. I am just an individual who happens to be an Ahmadi. The above mentioned facts are just my opinion.

It's very simple, first our constitution defines who is Muslim and then our constitution states that no one without the basic Muslim beliefs should call them Muslims, You just can't identify yourself as a Muslim,other basic rights are same as any Pakistani, whatever you wanna call yourself........

 

[Well.wisher]

Dude if one thing about my country that I am truly proud of is my constitution, which is absolutely free of bigotry and discrimination, Ahmadis are muslims as per our law, it hardly matters what my neighborhood mulla has to say about this

Talk about kashmiris muslims where you ban azan sometimes .

 

[Pakistani E]

You are fkn lying despite continuing discrimination on Ahmidi Muslims in Pakistan killing them torture them burning them alive arresting them the Head of Ahmaddiya community always in his sermons requests Ahmadiya community to keep remember Pakistan in your prayers. Stop bringing here your home made story.
On topic Govt of Punja banned it but there were no Law pass on it as case were in court and there is no hearing on it since 2015. @Pakistani Exile hope they come out on bail Inshallah.

InshAllah. It's stupid though, why will non Ahmadis even want to read about Tehrik e Jadid? Al Fazl publishes news about the Ahmadiyya community and can't be proscribed by non Ahmadis as far as I know.

It doesn't even concern them. A sensible person, when finding something dis-appealing, looks away. While

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Disgusting, utterly disgusting. My doctor is Ahmadi and honestly he is so patriotic about Pakistan. He is walking talking goodwill ambassador for Pakistan. I have never discussed or asked questions about his faith and neither has he of me. I don't frankly care, that is his right to practice what he wants.

Some of you guy's are behaving like friggin right wing Neo Nazis only your fanaticism is directed a religious minoroty. Or the right wing Jewish settlers and how they treat the Palestinians. No differance, non. Sickness is the same.

The amount of damage done to Pakistan by Sunni/Wahabi/Shia orthodox groups is there for all to see. Daily killing, mosques bombed, schools with little infants blown away, suicide bombing and after all that we are to believe the Ahmadi's are danger to Pakistan.

Insults my very intelligence frankly.

 

[Mitro]

How a Islamic country allow sect that openly preach against Islam fundamentals.
Either make Pakistan a secular country or implement sharia .
Don't be like hypocrites.