Ahmedi community linked literature seized, printing press sealed

[war&peace]

There is no "very basic definition of Islam" agreed upon by all sects .... This was pointed out by the honourable Supreme Court of Pakistan in 1953/54 ... Mullahs belonging to different sects couldn't agree upon any definition of Islam (accepted by all) when the court asked them to define "Muslim" .... For details see "Munir's Report"




Don't you think that we should not be the ones deciding who is a Muslim or who is not ? That authority/judgement lies with Allah alone .. He doesn't need our "opinion" in matters regarding him ....

And it was PM Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who amended the Constitution in 1974 and declared Ahmedis as non Muslims in a last bid effort to buy off the Mullahs who were agitating against him and wanted to overthrow his government (with US backing) .... It was a political move ... Played by a seasoned politician for personal gains ... It was never about religion ..

That has been discussed to death but on another thread. I don't wish to derail the thread.

 

[Hrk19]

If I'm differentiating wrong from right , does that mean I'm spouting hate .

You're showing me a verse of quran to teach me right ? Plz read other ones too so that you will agree with me that one who doesn't believe in finality of prophet is against islam and I will never ever support such literature who'll teach such filth and I'll do my best to aware common people of this lie no matter how much angry you get .

No I'm not someone special , it's my duty as a muslim to stop every wrong that's happening in name of Islam.

Plz get a islamic environment , don't break your keyboard .

Mashallah brother
keep this up
these ahmedis have hijacked this forum spreading their abomination of a lie
its nice to see someone having some sense around here and working for promoting correct knowledge of islam

 

[pak-marine]

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And it was PM Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto who amended the Constitution in 1974 and declared Ahmedis as non Muslims in a last bid effort to buy off the Mullahs who were agitating against him and wanted to overthrow his government (with US backing) .... It was a political move ... Played by a seasoned politician for personal gains ... It was never about religion ..

They were short sighted As the same mullah mind set killed ZAB and his entire generation "
Technically no Bhuttos left now "

 

[M. Sarmad]

That has been discussed to death but on another thread. I don't wish to derail the thread.

Derailing ?? I don't think so

And Please provide the link ...

 

[Mamluk]

here is the thing,you ahmedis are apostates and only are allowed to live because you were declared as non muslims
now,since we cant kill you,we most certainly will insult you for following an abomination of a fabrication
we(majority of religious pakistanis) will do everything in our power to make your lives miserable because it is our duty as muslims to discourage other muslims from evil practices
and Insha Allah you will never be welcome in pakistan,regardless of what the liberals on here say as they are an extremely tiny minority

and to those muslims who defend them,read this hadith
“Whoso- ever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart — and that is the weakest of faith.”

[Muslim]

meaning that those that do not even consider what the blasted ahmedis are doing as something bad,you basically have no faith whatsoever and are devoid of islam

@Pakistani Exile Don't respond, just report this indian modifukker ^^.

 

[The Sandman]

Don't you think that we should not be the ones deciding who is a Muslim or who is not ? That authority/judgement lies with Allah alone ..

You're right only Allah's knows the best but you see they don't believe in the most basic thing that is finality of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) so according to Islam and Quran they're not Muslims.

"Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing." (Ahzab 33:40).

But that doesn't mean we should start killing them they're minority they've sacrificed a lot for this country and they should get all the respect, protection and all the rights they deserve and no one have the right to call them traitors or whatever.

 

[pak-marine]

here is the thing,you ahmedis are apostates and only are allowed to live because you were declared as non muslims
now,since we cant kill you,we most certainly will insult you for following an abomination of a fabrication
we(majority of religious pakistanis) will do everything in our power to make your lives miserable because it is our duty as muslims to discourage other muslims from evil practices
and Insha Allah you will never be welcome in pakistan,regardless of what the liberals on here say as they are an extremely tiny minority

and to those muslims who defend them,read this hadith
“Whoso- ever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart — and that is the weakest of faith.”

[Muslim]

meaning that those that do not even consider what the blasted ahmedis are doing as something bad,you basically have no faith whatsoever and are devoid of islam

What an intolerant post .. nothing but venom against a tiny harmless minority ! Shame on you man

 

[Hrk19]

@Pakistani Exile Don't respond, just report this indian modifukker ^^.

i am not an indian!
i am a religious paksitani
may Allah punish you for accusing me of being indian just for being pro islam
how do you call yourself a Muslim!

 

[marj666]

Thats not common sense that mullah sense .. and clear messages have been sent across by the clergy by murdering every one who spoke against it .. so save it please

stereotyping that's good, that's good it shows how much do you really know about Pakistan... And on topic if there is such a genocide underdoing in Pakistan why your population isn't decreasing...You don't want to accept the fact that the orthodox non English speaking MULLAHS got you ,they git you good, BECAUSE the fight is all about name, you want to be called Muslims and the constitution doesn't allow people with non Muslims beliefs call themselves MUslims

 

[M. Sarmad]

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They were short sighted As the same mullah mind set killed ZAB and his entire generation "
Technically no Bhuttos left now "

Bhutto institutionalized mullahism through constitution, and then he appointed an Army Chief belonging to Jamat e Islami. Later regretting his choice, ZAB told the Supreme Court (which sent him to the gallows): "I appointed a Chief of Army belonging to Jamaat-i-Islami and the result is before us." ...

 

[Hrk19]

What an intolerant post .. nothing but venom against a tiny harmless minority ! Shame on you man

you have no right to say that to me
first get your facts straight on islam and get proper knowledge of islam and then talk to me

dont get it
why do most of you complain of mullah this mullah that?
dont you believe in the Quran and Hadith?
if so then why?
i just wanna know why are you lot so anti islam?
there has to be a reason

 

[M. Sarmad]

You're right only Allah's knows the best but you see they don't believe in the most basic thing that is finality of Prophet Muhammad (SAW) so according to Islam and Quran they're not Muslims.

"Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing." (Ahzab 33:40).

It actually is "the Seal of the Prophets"

They just interpret this verse differently. And they are not the only ones who have interpreted this verse in this way. Do some research brother

Allah knows the best.

 

[pak-marine]

you have no right to say that to me
first get your facts straight on islam and get proper knowledge of islam and then talk to me

Yeah Right .. and i guess you think that
You have the devine right to call a tiny minority all kind of names threaten their existence and post all kinds of hateful messages.

 

[Prince of Dorne]

dude take as much offense you want to ,first fact check LGBT marriage is legal now in all US states ....and second don't go on quoting USA because you're an Indian so let's talk about your country ,the land of missionary killing , mosques destroying, caste biasing, the land of hypocrites , the laws of your country are as real as your GOT pic . At least the Pakistanis are killing minorities at government level, your country selected a mass murderer .... Don't come preaching Bia........

Dude I don't take offence of what pretentious kids in online forums has to say, If you had followed the proper order of the debate you would understand I was only talking about our constitution, God knows we are a 3rd world country with a billion population and a million of social problems, I am not denying that, all I am saying is our constitution does not discriminate between caste, creed and religion , the social evils of India are not endorsed by the constitution, our law is same for Brahmin and Dalit, hindu and muslim, rich and poor, now for the love of God, stop your juvenile rants and try to comprehend this, don't make me parrot this all over again. I am saying it again we have problems, severe problems but our constitution is as perfect as it can be.

 

[Musafir117]

I'm all happy that majority of Pakistan's attitudes different than few narrow minded right wingers, we must not make Trumpistan and should always stand with Jinnah's version of Pakistan and kick the bad dirt stinky axxes of those who tries convert into a mulla state.