Ahmadis in Pakistan

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Govt committed to preservation of minorities rights : Gilani


ISLAMABAD, Aug 10 (APP): Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani on Tuesday said that the government was committed for the preservation of rights of minorities in Pakistan.“We recognize that our minorities are responsible and patriotic and are playing their due role in nation building. We will, therefore, never allow the miscreants to be successful in their ulterior motives,” the Prime Minister said in his message on the occasion of Minorities’ Day, being observed on August 11.

The Prime Minister said that the present democratic government has declared 11th August, as “Minorities Day”, the day when the Father of Nation laid down the foundation of a progressive, modern and a democratic Pakistan.
The Founder of the Nation, Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah made a solemn pledge at the time of creation of Pakistan that the policy of equality, freedom and security for all communities shall be practiced, he said.
He said that history of Islam is full of instances in which the minorities enjoyed peace, protection and equal social status. “We continue to be one nation living with mutual respect, honour, peace and harmony,” he said.
One of the top priorities of the present Democratic Government, he said, is to protect the rights of the Minorities and to uplift and empower them, adding, Interfaith Harmony is being promoted through Ministry for Minorities’ Affairs at international and national levels
Prime Minister Gilani said that many steps have been taken by the People’s Government for the protection and promotion of Minorities like the reservation of five percent quota in Government jobs/services, reservation of four, seats for minorities in the Senate, declaration of 11th August, as the Minorities Day, including observance of optional holidays and celebration of the festivals of Minorities at official level.
We acknowledge the contribution and sacrifices of all Minorities not only in the freedom movement but also for the development and prosperity of Pakistan, he said.
The ‘Minorities Day’ provides with us an opportunity to reassure that despite belonging to different faiths, we are one Nation which continues to march on for a prosperous Pakistan, the prime minister said.
The Prime Minister expressed the hope that this Minorities Day will go down in the annals of history as a memorable day.

Associated Press Of Pakistan ( Pakistan's Premier NEWS Agency ) - Govt committed to preservation of minorities rights : Gilani

 

[Meesna]

Minorities denied flood relief in Pakistan

Earlier this week, members of Pakistan's Ahmadiyya community, who were caught up in the raging floods around the Central Punjab town of Muzaffargarh, were not rescued from their homes because rescuers felt that Muslims must be given priority. Ahmadiyyas are ostracized by Pakistan's mainstream community who consider them to be non-believers.

1973, this community was officially declared a minority. Since then the discrimination against them has been severe. The Ahmadiyyas complained to the government that not only were their community members not rescued but in some instances ejected from relief camps when their identity was disclosed. This has been refuted by the provincial Punjab government but eye witnesses have attested to this.

Minorities denied flood relief in Pakistan - Hindustan Times

 

[Rafi]

Minorities denied flood relief in Pakistan - Hindustan Times

Nuff said..........by the way there are serving members of Pakistan's Armed Forces from that community and also members of the Civil Service, but there are bigots in Pakistan as well as other countries around the world, we have to defeat them, as a human race....

 

[Meesna]

Nuff said..........

Its here too;

MUZAFFARABAD: The government and local clerics refused to shelter around 500 flood-affected families belonging to the Ahmadiya community in South Punjab’s relief camps. Not only that, the government also did not send relief goods to the flood-hit areas belonging to the Ahmadiya community, The Express Tribune has learnt during a visit to the devastated Punjab districts of Muzaffargarh, Dera Ghazi Khan and Rajanpur.

The politics of relief: Aliens in their own land – The Express Tribune

 

[thegreensprite]

Yes they do. social boycott, death threats.. there is whole list i can come up with.

I'm sure you can come out with a massive list beta....

They never through out their themselve called them moslims..Ahmadi Moslim is how they introduce themselves.

Of course we do as we have to distinguish ourselves from the animals.. I'm an Ahmadi Muslim, and I don't care what type of Muslim you are.. so whats the issue here. If anything it tickles you more that I call myself Muslim... so deal with it on your own accord, leave us alone with your degenerate arguments.

 

[thegreensprite]

So they do exactly what they blame Muslims. Death threat is going too far. But social boycott is not a big deal. If they convert then there are few Muslim organizations to help them.

BS.. we have never threatened anyones life or been involved in any killing or terrorist acts, please do some research rather than just believing the lies beta apophenia is trying to spread. We are nothing like the "mainstream" Muslims... one of the biggest issues these mainstreams have is the fact that we don't believe in a violent Jihad, we encourage debates and education where we already have all of them beaten.

 

[thegreensprite]

careful boy!!! did this ahemdi guy call himself imam mehdi???

Yep he did.

this religion was built by the british inorder to divide the muslims there usual divide & rule policy!

LOL still living in the past and drowning in conspiracy theories.... Islam already divided on its own.. remember the 70+ sects beta? Of course you don't.. or incapable of understanding that there is NO unity in Islam, only powerhungry clerics.

ulemas would love nothing more than a KHILAFAAT where they have the ear of the ruler!! and can pass crazy laws!!

No they don't, they crave the power they get by using Islam.

examples include IRAN & SAUDI-ARABIA!! so this notion of your's that these mullahs are against khilafaat is completely wrong! they want khilafat so they get the "SHURAA" status & control the country!! so please don't tell me that ahmedis are discouraged because the uleams are SCARED of "ahemids" they are discouraged because of their faith!

Learn to type beta.. you seem to be getting worse as you reach your mental capabilities.

The belief in prophets of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is different from that of the Orthodox Islamic, Jewish, Zoroastrian or Christian belief of Prophets.

Man.. you don't even know anything about Islam, now you are a expert in the others mentioned above... LOL

There are two kinds of prophethood in Ahmadiyya Islam , law-bearing prophets, who bring a new law and dispensation such as Moses and Muhammad; and non-law-bearing who appear within a given dispensation such as Jeremiah, Jesus and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad.

Wow, beta got one bit right, did you copy and paste that from the Ahmadiyya Islam website?

Adam is regarded as the first human with whom God spoke with and revealed to him His Divine Will and thus the first Prophet but is not regarded as the first human on earth by the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community, contrary to Orthodox Islamic, Jewish and Christian beliefs.[10]

Wow... got another bit right.. go on..

Asides from the belief in all Prophets in the Old Testament of the Bible, in Jesus, John the Baptist and in Muhammad, the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community also regards Zoroaster, Krishna, Buddha, Confucius and Ghulam Ahmad as prophets. Ahmadis believe in Muhammad to be the final law-bearing prophet but teach the continuity of prophethood.[11]

WOW.. correct again... I can't say anything more.

 

[Zarvan]

Yep he did.



LOL still living in the past and drowning in conspiracy theories.... Islam already divided on its own.. remember the 70+ sects beta? Of course you don't.. or incapable of understanding that there is NO unity in Islam, only powerhungry clerics.



No they don't, they crave the power they get by using Islam.



Learn to type beta.. you seem to be getting worse as you reach your mental capabilities.



Man.. you don't even know anything about Islam, now you are a expert in the others mentioned above... LOL




Wow, beta got one bit right, did you copy and paste that from the Ahmadiyya Islam website?




Wow... got another bit right.. go on..




WOW.. correct again... I can't say anything more.

Mr HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is the last and final PROPHET OF ISLAM no other prophet of any kind will come after him is the main believe of Islam and to be a Muslim we have to believe it but Ahmdaies deny this so they are not Muslim

 

[apophenia]

BS.. we have never threatened anyones life or been involved in any killing or terrorist acts, please do some research rather than just believing the lies beta apophenia is trying to spread. We are nothing like the "mainstream" Muslims... one of the biggest issues these mainstreams have is the fact that we don't believe in a violent Jihad, we encourage debates and education where we already have all of them beaten.

And I am a liar because I did not agree with Ahmadi apologist or Ahmadi defending their faith. My refusal to adopt a belief that you and other expressed does not necessarily point to a defect in me or others. I explained my position on the subject clearly. However, if you want to battled it out in thunder dome style to see who emerges as The Grinch, you are more than welcome to PM me. Between there is NO such thing as mainstream Islam.

 

[Karachiite]

The Ahmadis I've met are really educated and nice people. I don't care who they follow or what their beliefs are. I really respect Ahmadis because they have been continuously persecuted in Pakistan but yet Ahmadis are probably one of the most patriotic Pakistanis I've met. For that every Pakistani should be ashamed because we let our intolerance kill innocent Ahmadis.

 

[untitled]

The Ahmadis I've met are really educated and nice people.

It is usually the educated people who create almost all of the fuss in the world... Uneducated people just follow

 

[regular]

The Ahmadis I've met are really educated and nice people. I don't care who they follow or what their beliefs are. I really respect Ahmadis because they have been continuously persecuted in Pakistan but yet Ahmadis are probably one of the most patriotic Pakistanis I've met. For that every Pakistani should be ashamed because we let our intolerance kill innocent Ahmadis.

Sir, I won't agree with U. I hate Qadyanis cuz they the worst enemies of our religion Islam and our country too...

 

[regular]

Mr HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is the last and final PROPHET OF ISLAM no other prophet of any kind will come after him is the main believe of Islam and to be a Muslim we have to believe it but Ahmdaies deny this so they are not Muslim

Thats the only reason we hate them cuz they trying to claim themselves as Muslims but infact they are not. and they are all liars and trying to malign true Muslims and true Islam.....Infact they are the enemies of Islam and Muslim Ummah...

 

[thegreensprite]

Mr HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW is the last and final PROPHET OF ISLAM no other prophet of any kind will come after him is the main believe of Islam and to be a Muslim we have to believe it but Ahmdaies deny this so they are not Muslim

Except Hazrat Isa of course... or is it that he was born before Prophet Muhammed(pbuh) so it doesn't really mean that he will be coming after him. You know you don't make sense really.

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And I am a liar because I did not agree with Ahmadi apologist or Ahmadi defending their faith. My refusal to adopt a belief that you and other expressed does not necessarily point to a defect in me or others. I explained my position on the subject clearly. However, if you want to battled it out in thunder dome style to see who emerges as The Grinch, you are more than welcome to PM me. Between there is NO such thing as mainstream Islam.

No.. you are a liar because you tell lies. I don't care if you agree with me or not. I'm not forcing you to adopt anything, and no, I'd rather not PM you and get into a pointless debate.
Btw manstream Islam is what the majority follows... I wonder if you can work that out.

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Uneducated people just follow

So why are you following the un-Islamic ways of the clerics? Are you uneducated?

 

[Karachiite]

Sir, I won't agree with U. I hate Qadyanis cuz they the worst enemies of our religion Islam and our country too...

Live and let live. This is why Muslims have such a bad name all over the world. You guys need to be more tolerant and open. The enemies of Islam are you extremist muslims. How are Ahmadis the enemies of our country??? Were Abdus Salam,Zafar Chaudhry,Muhammad Zafarullah Khan,Abdul Ali Malik and so many other Ahamdis enemies of Pakistan? I suggest you read up on the Ahmadis in the army and how they were the key figures in so many battles. Ahmadis also played a central role in the independance movement. While your Jamat e Islami and other religious jamaats rejected the idea of Pakistan and called insulting names to Pakistan and Quaid e Azam, the Ahmadiyya Movement supported the idea of Pakistan. After Quaid e Azam quit congress and returned to England it was none other then Mirza Bashir-ud-Din Mahmud Ahmad, head of Ahmadiyya Movement who persuaded Quaid e Azam to come back to India and fight for the struggle of Muslims.

But hey you guys are taught that Ahmadis and the other minorities are bad people. They should be killed. Intolerance at its best. Pakistan was made because a certain religious minority was being neglected and persecuted but now it looks like you guys are doing the same thing to your own minorities.