Ahmadi man along with his Sunni neighbor shot dead in Orangi Town, Karachi

[Pakistani E]

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You say there are more than 5 million Ahmadis in West Africa?

Okay I may look it up sometime.

I don't think there are 5 million ahmadis in Pakistan. The number is probably lower.

http://cultgirlahmadiyya.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/refutation-allegations-regarding.html

Scroll down and you'll see where I'm coming from.

EDIT: I posted the wrong link. Sorry, fixed it.

 

[Jaanbaz]

Nice play of words...

Lets see all he ( @HRK ) asked previously, which I can tell you from a simple glance was WHY ARENT THE BLOODY RICH ELITE ahmedis / SHIA (I put this 1) dying or "being in target practice" ??

Can you point me towards any Elite Ahmadis whatever that means

 

[Dubious]

Which ahmadi elite is this that you so badly want to kill? Ahmadis from all classes have being killed. And how the hell do you know which ahmadis are elite etc? Or is this another of points eventually leading to your night time conspiracy theory that ahmadis are killing each other to blame poor sunni muslims?

I never knew such a theory existed @HRK @KingMamba93

 

[Gautam]

the 2 related?! Shias are Shia...while Ahmedis are Ahmedis! Do some research before posting...I swear it takes all my energy to stop myself from bursting out and laughing at most of what you Indians need to say about religion

Talon Talon Talon
Haha you know what i meant. A typo man.

 

[Dubious]

Talon Talon Talon
Haha you know what i meant. A typo man.

Shia and Ahmedi are 2 COMPLETELY separate and they are SPELLED DIFFERENTLY...BIG TYPO there!

 

[Pakistani E]

Actually I would hope you would, you are perhaps the most sensible ahmadi on this forum even with your sarcastic retorts.
Okay fine but answer my one question, I have noticed the other ahmadis on this forum always make claims that former prophets were not Muslims. Is that honestly what you guys are taught?

Ill confess I'm not very knowledgeable and my memory sometimes fails me. A muslim is someone who submits to the will of God. So yes all prophets are muslims but you can't deny the fact that all prophets who were sent with a shariah had points that differed people to people. Simple because of the mental capacity of different people to understand the message. If I have rambled on, thn you will understand what I'm saying is this yes All prophet were muslims in the sense that they submitted to the will of God, but the laws that they were given were particularly suited to just that time period or just their people. Except Islam ofcourse which is for all makind and for all times. I hope I managed to explain my point of view. And I want to stress again I don't represent the official view of jamaat e ahmadiyya so if you need confirmation contact at alislam.org

 

[HRK]

I never knew such a theory existed @HRK @KingMamba93

anything is possible for them.....after all you are arguing with religiously motivated internet warriors

 

[KingMamba]

I don't think there are 5 million ahmadis in Pakistan. The number is probably lower.

Ahmadiyya Population Worldwide: net growth statistics (REFUTATION) ~ Cult Girl | Muslim Ahmadiyya Islam
Scroll down and you'll see where I'm coming from.

I see but this is a blog and according to some intelligence reports salafists are the fastest growing Islamic sect on the planet. Those are more accurate as salafism is considered a threat by most. There are 4 million in Pakistan and 1 in India so I doubt there would be more in places outside of these two countries. Especially not more than in Pakistan.

I never knew such a theory existed @HRK @KingMamba93

No such theory, yes some Sunnis try to kill them but it is not as widespread as one would think. Hell shias have it worse in most parts. In my city of Sailkot there are a bunch of Ahmadis and my friend has invited me to come visit them when I next time go to Pakistan.

 

[Pakistani E]

I never knew such a theory existed @HRK @KingMamba93

Yes your really funny sunshine, Do you want me to laugh loudly or softly? Many non ahmadi Pakistanis have said it to my face that ahmadis kill each other to get asylum in western countries yet the biggest hole in tht argument is the fact that few years back thousands of anti ahmadi Pakistanis were claiming to be ahmadi and trying to get asylum. Yep i'll give it to you lot, the funniest guys I've ever met.

 

[Pakistani E]

I see but this is a blog and according to some intelligence reports salafists are the fastest growing Islamic sect on the planet. Those are more accurate as salafism is considered a threat by most. There are 4 million in Pakistan and 1 in India so I doubt there would be more in places outside of these two countries. Especially not more than in Pakistan.

The information, although not 100% accurate was undertanken by pew forum so it definitely to be taken seriously. The salafis have the backing of rich oil barrens who have enough to buy the world. Considering how small jamaat e ahmadiyya is, I think its a great achievement.

 

[KingMamba]

Ill confess I'm not very knowledgeable and my memory sometimes fails me. A muslim is someone who submits to the will of God. So yes all prophets are muslims but you can't deny the fact that all prophets who were sent with a shariah had points that differed people to people. Simple because of the mental capacity of different people to understand the message. If I have rambled on, thn you will understand what I'm saying is this yes All prophet were muslims in the sense that they submitted to the will of God, but the laws that they were given were particularly suited to just that time period or just their people. Except Islam ofcourse which is for all makind and for all times. I hope I managed to explain my point of view. And I want to stress again I don't represent the official view of jamaat e ahmadiyya so if you need confirmation contact at alislam.org

Yes and so Jesus coming down and claiming an old law would be against logic. Your views are more orthodox sunni than even you know.

Right now I am just trying to look up your numbers, I see multiple different claims from different sources.

 

[ajkhan7]

This Thread itself is Bull **** must be removed .... Two Pakistanis were killed not Ahmadi or Sunni ...... In karachi everyday peole get killed ..... so stop playing sectarianism again....

 

[Pakistani E]

Yes and so Jesus coming down and claiming an old law would be against logic. Your views are more orthodox sunni than even you know.

Right now I am just trying to look up your numbers, I see multiple different claims from different sources.

Brother, these are not just my views. This is as far as I know, what the ahmadi belief is. This is what I was taught at my mosque. Could it be that no one has ever explained ahmadi beliefs to you before?

This Thread itself is Bull **** must be removed .... Two Pakistanis were killed not Ahmadi or Sunni ...... In karachi everyday peole get killed ..... so stop playing sectarianism again....

yes and what valuable thing do you have to add to this discussion apart from cursing?

 

[Dubious]

Yes your really funny sunshine, Do you want me to laugh loudly or softly? Many non ahmadi Pakistanis have said it to my face that ahmadis kill each other to get asylum in western countries yet the biggest hole in tht argument is the fact that few years back thousands of anti ahmadi Pakistanis were claiming to be ahmadi and trying to get asylum. Yep i'll give it to you lot, the funniest guys I've ever met.

Good for you....look at how you ppl are getting established in the West....Maybe you should stay there

Brother, these are not just my views. This is as far as I know, what the ahmadi belief is. This is what I was taught at my mosque. Could it be that no one has ever explained ahmadi beliefs to you before?

Did you hear yourself few post behind...how you drip with sarcasm...Any Ahmedi as a matter of fact ANY JEW I question goes into that mode Why is that?!

 

[Pakistani E]

Good for you....look at how you ppl are getting established in the West....Maybe you should stay there



Did you hear yourself few post behind...how you drip with sarcasm...Any Ahmedi as a matter of fact ANY JEW I question goes into that mode Why is that?!

Actually I think I will, but my problem is that some of the people back home in Pakistan don't have decency to treat ahmadis as fellow humans, much less fellow Pakistanis. And that indeed what my problem is.
lol what? sorry what has being sarcastic to do with jews? are you saying other muslims are no sarcastic?? Wait till my sunni friends here this.