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NEW DELHI: "Is it your territory?" China's state councillor Yang Jiechi bluntly asked national security adviser A K Doval on the presence of Indian troops at Doklam as the two met on July 27 in Beijing to make the first diplomatic stab at resolving the confrontation over the strategically crucial patch.

The sharp poser reflected the Chinese intransigence over changing the status quo at the trijunction of Bhutan, India and China by building a road through what India considers to be Bhutanese territory.

The toughness failed to faze Doval, who, according to sources here, is learned to have responded that the point of contention was not China's territory either as it had been claimed by Bhutan. "Does every disputed territory become China's by default?" sources quoted the NSA as having replied.

Doval asserted that the territory was part of Bhutan, and a treaty with the Himalayan kingdom obliged India to look after the latter's security.

The NSA also stressed that Doklam was on the table during the several rounds of negotiations China has held with Bhutan to solve their border disputes, while reminding his interlocutor of Beijing's offer to hand over to the kingdom 500 sq km in the north in exchange for Doklam.

He is learned to have argued that China's claim over Doklam was not settled, and both sides should simultaneously pull back their troops to restore status quo.

The sharp exchange was followed by several rounds of negotiations between the two sides in Beijing in which foreign secretary S Jaishankar, along with India's ambassador to China Vijay Gokhale, tried to hammer out a solution.

The talks had been okayed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping when they met in Hamburg on the sidelines of the G20 meeting on July 7. The meeting saw Modi telling Xi that the dispute should not be allowed to escalate and suggesting that negotiations be held at the NSA level.

Modi asked his team to explore ways for early resolution of the confrontation, the worst in many decades, saying differences should not be allowed to turn into conflicts as the two countries had a lot to gain from cooperation. At the same time, he sketched his bottomline very clearly. "India will not allow the status quo to be changed by force under any circumstance.

Any change must happen through negotiations and through mutual understanding," the PM is learned to have emphasised.

The brief saw the government refusing to be baited by the endless barrage of provocative statements and actions from China, including "conspicuous" movement of missiles and tanks, and scuffles at other border points.

The posture of restraint saw the Army being instructed to ignore provocations. "Even a single shot fired by an edgy soldier could have sparked a wider conflagration in such tense times," said a senior officer as he expressed admiration for the Army leadership for enforcing compliance.

But the Army did not lower its vigil even for a moment as it reinforced men and material at the confrontation site, and moved back-up forces close. "We knew that the rhetoric and the movement of missiles etc were mind games intended to get us to blink. But at the same time, we were prepared for any eventuality which might have been forced on us," said a source who added that China, used to having its way in territorial disputes with countries like the Philippines, had not bargained for India's doggedness and finally came around to realise that negotiations were the only way out.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...y-of-the-doklam-deal/articleshow/60283770.cms

Exceptional work and diplomacy by Modi Government (10 on 10)
 
Good work, I hope China with her only pawn, continue to do so, that will make a NATO in Asia against China.

They said they will not talk till, Indian soldiers go back, but they were doing so behind the scene, cowards. :haha:
 
make Asian countries a NATO ?
do u know in ur fancy nato how many countris' largest trade partner is china and they corporate much more in all areas with china than ur supapowa india?
 
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http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-08/29/c_136565670.htm

BEIJING, Aug. 29 (Xinhua) -- Chinese border troops are continuing their patrolling and defending the Dong Lang (Doklam) area, a Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson said Tuesday.

"We will make an overall assessment of the weather conditions and all related factors, and according to the actual circumstances complete construction plans for the Dong Lang (Doklam) area," spokesperson Hua Chunying told a daily news briefing.

On June 18, over 270 armed Indian troops with two bulldozers crossed the boundary into Dong Lang (Doklam), Chinese sovereign territory, to obstruct infrastructure construction.

China Monday confirmed that India had withdrawn personnel and equipment from Dong Lang (Doklam) after a military stand-off lasting more than two months.

Dong Lang (Doklam), which borders India's Sikkim state to the west and the Kingdom of Bhutan to the south, is part of Chinese territory and has been under Chinese rule for a very long time.

Hua said for a long period of time, China has constructed infrastructure facilities including roads to meet the needs of soldiers and civilians, and improve their living conditions.

1) China did not withdraw
2) China will continue construction.

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NEW DELHI: "Is it your territory?" China's state councillor Yang Jiechi bluntly asked national security adviser A K Doval on the presence of Indian troops at Doklam as the two met on July 27 in Beijing to make the first diplomatic stab at resolving the confrontation over the strategically crucial patch.

The sharp poser reflected the Chinese intransigence over changing the status quo at the trijunction of Bhutan, India and China by building a road through what India considers to be Bhutanese territory.

The toughness failed to faze Doval, who, according to sources here, is learned to have responded that the point of contention was not China's territory either as it had been claimed by Bhutan. "Does every disputed territory become China's by default?" sources quoted the NSA as having replied.

Doval asserted that the territory was part of Bhutan, and a treaty with the Himalayan kingdom obliged India to look after the latter's security.

The NSA also stressed that Doklam was on the table during the several rounds of negotiations China has held with Bhutan to solve their border disputes, while reminding his interlocutor of Beijing's offer to hand over to the kingdom 500 sq km in the north in exchange for Doklam.

He is learned to have argued that China's claim over Doklam was not settled, and both sides should simultaneously pull back their troops to restore status quo.

The sharp exchange was followed by several rounds of negotiations between the two sides in Beijing in which foreign secretary S Jaishankar, along with India's ambassador to China Vijay Gokhale, tried to hammer out a solution.

The talks had been okayed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping when they met in Hamburg on the sidelines of the G20 meeting on July 7. The meeting saw Modi telling Xi that the dispute should not be allowed to escalate and suggesting that negotiations be held at the NSA level.

Modi asked his team to explore ways for early resolution of the confrontation, the worst in many decades, saying differences should not be allowed to turn into conflicts as the two countries had a lot to gain from cooperation. At the same time, he sketched his bottomline very clearly. "India will not allow the status quo to be changed by force under any circumstance.

Any change must happen through negotiations and through mutual understanding," the PM is learned to have emphasised.

The brief saw the government refusing to be baited by the endless barrage of provocative statements and actions from China, including "conspicuous" movement of missiles and tanks, and scuffles at other border points.

The posture of restraint saw the Army being instructed to ignore provocations. "Even a single shot fired by an edgy soldier could have sparked a wider conflagration in such tense times," said a senior officer as he expressed admiration for the Army leadership for enforcing compliance.

But the Army did not lower its vigil even for a moment as it reinforced men and material at the confrontation site, and moved back-up forces close. "We knew that the rhetoric and the movement of missiles etc were mind games intended to get us to blink. But at the same time, we were prepared for any eventuality which might have been forced on us," said a source who added that China, used to having its way in territorial disputes with countries like the Philippines, had not bargained for India's doggedness and finally came around to realise that negotiations were the only way out.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...y-of-the-doklam-deal/articleshow/60283770.cms

Exceptional work and diplomacy by Modi Government (10 on 10)
Realise your whole article only mentioned China telling you to get out and nothing was negotiated before withdrawals. :rofl:

Its a paper dragon. It got defeated when it started the warning games like a 6th grader bully thinking India would react like other nations in SCS.
Why did you run btw? :rofl:
 
Its a paper dragon. It got defeated when it started the warning games like a 6th grader bully thinking India would react like other nations in SCS.
do u have the money or business power for asean countries? is ur fleet strong enough to confront china in SCS? are u crazy enough to break the peace in this area and force asean countries give up peaceful life to follow ur poverty filthy indian logic of powa?
funny.
 
http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/t1488261.shtml

Q: Could you tell us that how many Chinese soldiers are still deployed at the Dong Lang area?


A: This is a very specific question. What I can tell you is that The Chinese border troops continue with their patrols and stationing in the Dong Lang area. China will adjust and deploy its military resources in accordance with the need of guarding the border and the situation on the ground.

:china:
 
LOL at the reply DOVAL Sahab gave to his Chinese counterpart.
Heard they were both giving each other history lessons. China mentioned convention of 1890 and India reminded China of the arrangement made in 1910. :lol:
 
Good work, I hope China with her only pawn, continue to do so, that will make a NATO in Asia against China.

They said they will not talk till, Indian soldiers go back, but they were doing so behind the scene, cowards. :haha:
Having enemies all around doesn't show how strong you are, rather it calls for review of foreign policy and realize that confronting everyone (Russia in North, India on West, Japan and Taiwan in East and about everyone in South) only makes people see you as bully.
& someday or other, people learn to tackle bully!
 
Having enemies all around doesn't show how strong you are, rather it calls for review of foreign policy and realize that confronting everyone (Russia in North, India on West, Japan and Taiwan in East and about everyone in South) only makes people see you as bully.
& someday or other, people learn to tackle bully!


I think that the bully was India in this particular stand-off, for, the land that India transgressed to, did not belong to it. India had no business for this encroachment which violated International law and order.
 
LOL at the reply DOVAL Sahab gave to his Chinese counterpart.
Heard they were both giving each other history lessons. China mentioned convention of 1890 and India reminded China of the arrangement made in 1910. :lol:

In 1910, India was not created yet. India today is not British India. Otherwise, Pakistan should also have a say in the matter.

So in all fairness, British India could mean Pakistan as well. It's just that India hijack the name of the subcontinent doesn't mean that modern India has direct ownership of British India. Pakistan, Sri Lanka could also call themselves India as well. Pakistan actually have more rights to the name of India as India was originally refer to the Indus Valley in Pakistan.
 
In 1910, India was not created yet. India today is not British India. Otherwise, Pakistan should also have a say in the matter.

So in all fairness, British India could mean Pakistan as well. It's just that India hijack the name of the subcontinent doesn't mean that modern India has direct ownership of British India. Pakistan, Sri Lanka could also call themselves India as well. Pakistan actually have more rights to the name of India as India was originally refer to the Indus Valley in Pakistan.


You are forgetting that back then TIBET was also not a part of CHINA.
You need some lessons in history. Lol
 
Having enemies all around doesn't show how strong you are, rather it calls for review of foreign policy and realize that confronting everyone (Russia in North, India on West, Japan and Taiwan in East and about everyone in South) only makes people see you as bully.
& someday or other, people learn to tackle bully!
Please, no name calling.

You are forgetting that back then TIBET was also not a part of CHINA.
You need some lessons in history. Lol
There was no India in the history as well.
 

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