Oral histories mean nothing.
Persians are predominantly of Turkic stock.
Pathans are not anything to do with Banni Israel.
WAOOH! Chill out there buddy? You seem to be one of those who think Banni Isreal were Jews, correction Banni Isreal were hebrew speaking people and with regards to
, correction there aswell because if we were of turkic stock that would make our traditional history almost as old as the Scathians? No! Are you perhaps linking linages to the Ottoman Emprie?
Now Iranian Stock? Yes i could aggree with that, why? Well because a majority of Pathan's speak farsi, look farsi, some of our names are even taken from the old books such as Asfandeyar from "Shah Nama Firdousi"...
Our Language Pashtu comes from a Persian word "Pasth" which means back of the mountain in Farsi.
Pathans Nothing to do with Banni Isreal...
Whilst i am not a big fan of the whole "Banni Isreal" theory there is plethora of documentation to support this claim.
Please kindly read the link i have posted. I will enjoy discourse, because i too am a big fan of genealogy and have researched my side quite in-depth, here are a few links for you.
<ASWJ vs GAH> Pathans Are Children Of Israel
Taaqati-Nasiri, states that in the 7th century BC a people called the Bani Israel settled in Ghor, southeast of Herat, Afghanistan, and then migrated south and east. These references to Bani Israel agree with the commonly held view by Pashtuns that when the twelve tribes of Israel were dispersed (see Israel and Judah and Ten Lost Tribes), the tribe of Joseph, among other Hebrew tribes, settled in the region. This oral tradition is widespread among the Pashtuns. There have been many legends over the centuries of descent from the Ten Lost Tribes after groups converted to Christianity and Islam. Hence the tribal name 'Yusef Zai' in Pashto translates to the 'sons of Joseph'. A similar story is told by Iranian historian Ferishta. Link:
History - Vol 6
The Mystery of the Ten Lost Tribes
Is It the Lost Tribe of Israel
More about the lost 10 tribes of Afghanistan:
Israelites Came To Ancient Japan: Chapter 2
Oral histories mean nothing.
How arrogant! So you would debunk all the history brought down from Mohammedzai to Niazi...
Besides the oral tradition related by the elders of the tribe, there are also interesting testimonies of keeping of scrolls of genealogy among the tribes, reaching back to the Fathers of the Jewish nation.
These scrolls are well preserved and some are written in gold on the skins of a doe called "Shajra" or "Family Tree".
No less interesting and significant are the names of the tribes which bear close resemblance to the Tribes of Israel.
The Rabbani Tribe is really Reuben, the Shinware Tribe is Simeon, the Lewani Tribe is Levi, The Daftani Tribe is Naphtali, and the Jaji Tribe is Gad, and the Ashuri Tribe is Asher, The Yusefsai Tribe is children of Joseph, and the Afridi Tribe is really Ephraim. These are the names of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.
The Pathans themselves point out the differences between the original names of the tribes and their present names are because of the different dialects of the languages so that, for instance, Jaji was actually called Gaji for the tribe of Gad.
Women of the Pathans keep laws similar to the Jewish laws regarding menstruation. During this time and for 7 days after, no contact is allowed with the husband. After this period, the woman immerses in a river or spring or in a bathhouse if a natural spring is not available. This is exactly the same as the Israeli tradition going back to the days of the Bible. Source:
The Ten Lost Tribes of Israel - Israel Forum
Anyway...
THE CLAIM BY THE PATHANS AS BEING FROM BANI ISRAEL IS NOT JUST ORAL TRADITION
The claim of Afghans to be the Bani Israel (Children of Israel) is not founded on oral tradition alone. It is supported by ancient monuments, old inscriptions, manuscripts, and historical works, many in the public domain, and many others in private collections. WRITTEN REFERENCES OLDER THAN 1000 YEARS TELLS THE TRUTH Apart from our own reference ,the oldest written reference we find is HUDUD-AL-ALAM written in 982AD by an Arab Geographer which clearly tells that PATHANS are not from ARAYANs but from BANI ISRAEL(infact he never mentioned the word ARAYAN) Also the word Afghan ... first appears in history in the Hudud-al-Alam and infact until the advent of the modern Afghan state in the 18th century, the word Afghan has been synonymous with Pashtun. Now in moderen times some of the Western Historians tell us that the Pathans are from the ARYANS and deny the ancient claim of the Pashtuns that they belong to the Lost tribes of Israel.This doesnt make any sense that someone from outside deny the claim of a whole Nation
ONE EXAMPLE OF A 700 YEAR OLD REFERENCE TELLING DETAILS ABOUT PATHANS ORIGIN One of the most ancient manuscripts available is Rauza ul Albab fi Tawarikh-ul-Akabir wal Ansab The Garden of the Learned in the History of Great Men and Genealogies by Abu Suleman Daud bin Abul Fazal Muhammad Albenaketi which was written in 1317 AD. The author in his Introduction explains that ever since the times of Moses the ancestors of Afghans have had to face great hardships. They were expelled from place to place and exterminated. Their ancient ancestors were sacked more than once and carried into captivity. In Chapter I a detailed history of Yaqub (Jacob) is given and in Chapter II the genealogies of the Afghan tribes are further traced.
Source:
The Black Banners: Black Banners Are Mainly Bani Israel/Pathans
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nyway's i couldn't care less what i am as long as i am Pakistani... But you cannot just go around debunking peoples cultural belief or tradition without presenting even a sliver of proof...
All the best...
