A question about Barak 8

[Rajaraja Chola]

Tomahawk is the best agreed have the same speed which you people failed to make one (nirbhay) and jumping like headless chicken by producing license copy on oniks from Russia

Variants[edit]

• Oniks – Base version for Russia.
• Yakhont – Export version of Oniks.
• Brahmos – Co-developed by Russia and India, based on Oniks, produced by BrahMos Aerospace Private Limited in India. BrahMos-II, a hypersonic version is also being developed.
• Bastion-P – Coast mobile missile system. Officially it was entered service in 2015.[13]
• Kh-61 - Air launched ASM AGM version

There is nothing to bring Brahmos into this. It was derived from Yakhont, but Brahmos has its own developed parts and B-2 will be more interesting.
Forget Barak or SAM's. It cannot fly too low for it can be seen by many. Even attack helicopters can intercept it at that speed. Be it Raad. And let the development of Nirbhay get over

 

[sharma1111]

Tomahawk is the best agreed have the same speed which you people failed to make one (nirbhay) and jumping like headless chicken by producing license copy on oniks from Russia
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Brahmos development started in 90's and 1st missile was delivered in 2001-2 while Nirbhay CM program started in2007.
Global security org
In mid-2007 it was reported that India was developing a new medium-range, multi-platform missile, called the Nirbhay [Dauntless or Fearless], that was slated to be tested by end-2009. The missile, with a range of 1,000 km, was being developed at the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), a unit of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) under the defence ministry. The latest in the series of India's missile development program, the Nirbhay followed the Agni (I, II and III), the Prithvi (I and II), the Indo-Russian joint venture supersonic Brahmos, Akash, Trishul and Nag.

Watch how a Brahmos missile is made at Godrej Plant in Mumbai!

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Problem with terrain hugging cruise missiles is they are difficult to detect thanks to their extremely low altitude which creates ground clutter for tracking radars. But you may find it hard to convince some Indian posters.

Ground clutter at sea? seriously?

 

[Indian Patriot]

Do you understand the concept of Radars ?

Do you understand the concept of "flying below the radar"?

The concept of AWACS and Aerostat radars ?

How many AWACs and Aerostats can India deploy at any given time? And that is only about detection, interceptor missiles do not target anything and everything, they have their limits and a minimum interception altitude something you keyboard warriors do not understand.

The lowest pakistani cruise missile can fly is 100 meters. Even with that heigh, line of sight is 36 KM. A Ground based Radar can pick up an object at 15% beyond the geometrical horizon. that means 41 KM.

That provides Ample time for Akash Missile since it has a Response time of 10 milliseconds.

A pakistani cruise missile travelling at even 0.8 Mach can cover only 270 meters in 1 second

What is the minimum interception altitude of Akash?

So by the time the missile is detected by Akash Missile system and an Akash is flying towards it, the missile will not even cover 1 km of the 41 km distance separating them.

Akash has a maximum range of 25 km, how will it intercept something at 41 km, by using vedic chants? And that is assuming the missile could be tracked and intercepted by Akash.

Now for all practical matters a Pakistani missile will never travel so low to the ground to avoid the danger of hitting targets in pakistan itself, its probably heigh will be 300 meters.

Are you retarded?

If you don't know how a cruise missile function why do you even bother to comment?

Now do the Math yourself if you can. Not the Madrasas math you are used too, but real simple mathematics.

Funny you mention Madrasa, because it was Muslims who invented numbers and algebra.

Your cow mata seems to have not properly taught you about cruise missiles.

Ground clutter at sea? seriously?

Yes, because according to your vedic logic Pakistan will launch missiles only by sea route, because Pakistanis according to you don't know how to launch missiles over land.

 

[Death In Fire]

@MaarKhoor Muslims did not invent algebra or modern numbers

You are being redirected...

 

[Maarkhoor]

@MaarKhoor Muslims did not invent algebra or modern numbers

You are being redirected...

I have no interest in junk topics but advising you not troll check the subject of the thread and your post. Please don't tag me for any further trolling.
@WAJsal

 

[sharma1111]

@MaarKhoor Muslims did not invent algebra or modern numbers

You are being redirected...

The dumbwit madrassa patriot didnt see the video of akash destroying a target in the sea

The false flagger is now discussing range of Akash.. Akash II will have 35-40 Km range while Barak-8 will have 3 variant from maximal range of 50-120 KM.
Dumb wit believes that Chinese export low quality babur is a real terrain hugging CM.

I have never seen it flying at altitude of <100 meter. In a video, it comes down to some few 100 meter but its not <100 meter.
See it here. Look at those trees.
Apply some basic perspective projection algorithm and u will know the height of CM & height of trees.
CM is flying at many times higher than those trees which appear to be 10-20 meter in height.

India will have dozens of spy satellites in 10yrs with swath range of 128 + KM which can monitor every missile launch.

Muslims were only good in plagiarism of Indian science and mathematics.

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Yes, because according to your vedic logic Pakistan will launch missiles only by sea route, because Pakistanis according to you don't know how to launch missiles over land.

Well it still has to travel over sea to reach the ship which is going to be miles away from your land.

 

[posedion]

Ja beta ja school ja Tuj se na ho paye gha

Oh too Sakool ja ki hi aya hey tu beta kam kar ja roti jo kamane hey Babar to nahi dega

 

[Indian Patriot]

Well it still has to travel over sea to reach the ship which is going to be miles away from your land.

Babur is a LACM which can be launched both from land and sea. Don't troll here with your infinite stupidity.

 

[nForce]

Babur is a LACM which can be launched both from land and sea. Don't troll here with your infinite stupidity.

Launched from where ? The virtually non existent Pakistani navy ?

 

[satishkumarcsc]

Babur is a LACM which can be launched both from land and sea. Don't troll here with your infinite stupidity.

But Barak 8 is only on ships. and Babur is a LACM which means Land attack cruise missile. So how is it supposed to be intercepted by Barak 8?

Enlighten me.

 

[sankranti]

Do you understand the concept of "flying below the radar"?

Do you even know what "flying below the radar" mean ? It just means using the nape of the earth to avoid radar. Its only to avoid Radar's LONG RANGE, it is however ineffective beyond 41 km which is the lowest any aircraft will dare to fly.

How many AWACs and Aerostats can India deploy at any given time? And that is only about detection, interceptor missiles do not target anything and everything, they have their limits and a minimum interception altitude something you keyboard warriors do not understand.

India has 3 AWACS, 3 AEW&CS and 2 Aerostat radar Right now. We are purchasing 2 more AWACS and 4 more Aerostat radar fro Israel and has sanctioned building of 8 Indigenous AWACS with a future plan of having a total of 30 Arostat radars. Also 20 AEW&CS to supplement all IAF bases.

This is apart form the land base Radar coverage including the newly set up 46 Coastal Radars.

What is the minimum interception altitude of Akash?

Akash has a maximum range of 25 km, how will it intercept something at 41 km, by using vedic chants? And that is assuming the missile could be tracked and intercepted by Akash.

Akash has an INTERCEPT range of 30 KM. It can target anything flying between the height of 30 meters to 20 km.

IT is not required to incept anything at 41 km, 30 km will be just fine ...... what it will do is SEE the cruise missile at that range and get ready to intercept it.

Are you retarded?
If you don't know how a cruise missile function why do you even bother to comment?
Funny you mention Madrasa, because it was Muslims who invented numbers and algebra.
Your cow mata seems to have not properly taught you about cruise missiles.

LOL..... you are undoubtedly well versed with retards since you are one of them. The only thing muslims invented is destruction, Murder, destroying Temples and universities and making slaves.

Numbers and algebra that muslims use is invented by Hindus .... that is the kind of stuff they don't teach in a Madrassa.

NO cruise missile flies below 200 meters you fool. If you know anything about missiles you would not be asking such fundamental questions. Most keep a safe height of 500 meters. Its only sea based missiles like harpoon or Brahmos which fly low due to absence of ground clutter. that too only in the terminal phase.

 

[sharma1111]

But Barak 8 is only on ships. and Babur is a LACM which means Land attack cruise missile. So how is it supposed to be intercepted by Barak 8?

Enlighten me.

Madrassa warrior didnt read my post on Pakistan's problem with producing SLCM

Ra'ad ALCM and Babur GLCM are of south african and chinese in origin.
Denel dynamics built and designed Ra'ad from scratch while China reverse engineered KH-55 and made an export version of GLCM which Pakistan named it as Babur.

3. Cruise missiles are not hard to beat until Pak comes up with long range SLCM which is very difficult for them. Pakistan's Cruise missiles aren't made of composite. Their RCS is too hugh and can easily be detected even if they come in radar range for few seconds

4. Detection of cruise missiles shouldnt be tought job .
A country with integrated space cell can easily detect launch of such cruise missiles.
An Integrated radar network with series of aerostat radars and AWACS are easy hunters for subsonic cruise missiles

5. IF Pak had indigenous capacity then Pak would have easily converted Babur GLCM into Babur ALCM.

China torpedo launched cruise missile have range of 128 km.
Pak ll be 1st asian country to have 500 km + range SLCM from torpedo if they manage to achieve it.

=>. CM-708UNA is the most powerful submarine launched naval torpedo variant CM with 128 km range.

"At Zhuhai China Air Show 201:
CM-708UNA, a submarine-launched missile by torpedo tube, is applicable for various submarine platforms, undertaking the stealthy underwater attack mission aimed for the medium-to-large ships and inshore targets. The missile adpots underwater unpowered and controlled launchde mode, strap-down INS + satellite combined navigation, high precision radar seeker, digital control and other new technologies. The CM-708UNA adopts turbojet engine + solid rocket booster with 128km range.
The missile system features in high adaptability, highly concealed launched capability, strong defense penetration capability, high hit accuracy, etc.
"

=>. Chinese YJ-18 under developmemt is the most powerful VLS launched SLCM with range of 220 km.

It might also have a torpedo version in future

=>. Popeye which is a Torpedo SLCM from Israel has limited range of 300 KM

Even if Pak manage to make SLCM, the CM should have to fly 200-300 KM in Indian waters/land. It is almost impossible for them to travel undetected at such low speed.

 

[Indian Patriot]

But Barak 8 is only on ships. and Babur is a LACM which means Land attack cruise missile. So how is it supposed to be intercepted by Barak 8?

That is the question doofus, how the hell is India supposed to defend against LACM when it does not have a proper air defense system in place.

Do you even know what "flying below the radar" mean ? It just means using the nape of the earth to avoid radar. Its only to avoid Radar's LONG RANGE, it is however ineffective beyond 41 km which is the lowest any aircraft will dare to fly.

Do you know what a terrain hugging cruise missile is and the fundamental difference between cruise missile and aircraft?

India has 3 AWACS, 3 AEW&CS and 2 Aerostat radar Right now. We are purchasing 2 more AWACS and 4 more Aerostat radar fro Israel and has sanctioned building of 8 Indigenous AWACS with a future plan of having a total of 30 Arostat radars. Also 20 AEW&CS to supplement all IAF bases.

This is apart form the land base Radar coverage including the newly set up 46 Coastal Radars.

Ground based radars cannot sweep the earth, aircraft and missiles can fly below the minimum altitude of ground based radars, only AWACs are immune from that tactic. Aircrat require maintenance and repair after every flight so no, all 3 AWACs cannot be airborne at the same time. And even AWACs have their limitations.

Akash has an INTERCEPT range of 30 KM. It can target anything flying between the height of 30 meters to 20 km.

Provide sources.

LOL..... you are undoubtedly well versed with retards since you are one of them. The only thing muslims invented is destruction, Murder, destroying Temples and universities and making slaves.

Yes you hindus made for some good slaves, pity you forget your place today.

Numbers and algebra that muslims use is invented by Hindus .... that is the kind of stuff they don't teach in a Madrassa.

Watch your mouth.

NO cruise missile flies below 200 meters you fool. If you know anything about missiles you would not be asking such fundamental questions. Most keep a safe height of 500 meters. Its only sea based missiles like harpoon or Brahmos which fly low due to absence of ground clutter. that too only in the terminal phase.

Don't blabber here like an ignorant fool.

Madrassa warrior didnt read my post on Pakistan's problem with producing SLCM

Take your imagination someplace else.