A political solution for Kashmir and lasting peace for India and Pakistan

[MayaBazar]

Why doesn't India give up Kashmir? It's essentially an ego problem. Nothing else. I am just grabbing my popcorn and watching the shit show that is about to take place in India in the next 10 years. The giant Vedic elephant will sink.

Also @jamahir I know you lean left but Baathism was a shit show. It was a sucky ideology and it did nothing for Iraq or Syria. Neither did Gaddafi. In fact much of the present Middle East's problems stem from this ideology.

Giving up Kashmir implies India giving up on its secularism. Indians will never succumb to this religious blackmail.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Giving up Kashmir implies India giving up on its secularism. Indians will never succumb to this religious blackmail.

Partition is incomplete. You stole Kashmir from Pakistan. It is a 97% Muslim majoriry region which also shares racial commonality with Pakistan.

 

[padamchen]

Someone should have told him that so then he may not have fought for Islam against the Crusades. By the way, do you have ANY evidence to prove that Saladin was a Zorastrian?

PS You forgot to mention that Neil Armstrong the first man on the moon was also an india parsi zorastrian.

Do your research. Don't expect others to spoonfeed you on the internet.

Remember you represent Pakistan here.

I've already posted a link earlier. Read up.

Giving up Kashmir implies India giving up on its secularism. Indians will never succumb to this religious blackmail.

Exactly so.

 

[MayaBazar]

Simple solution is for India to accept Pakistani Kashmir and for Pakistan to accept Indian Kashmir. Win win for both countries. People of Indian Kashmir should be allowed to migrate to Pakistan Kashmir and vice versa.

Unfortunately, There are no takers for this in Pakistan. The Islamists in Pakistan dream of unfurling green flag at Red fort. Nothing short of this will be an acceptable solution.

For them Muslim minority living under Hindu majority is unacceptable but a Hindu minority under Islamic majority is an ideal world.

Partition is incomplete. You stole Kashmir from Pakistan. It is a 97% Muslim majoriry region which also shares racial commonality with Pakistan.

What racial commonality? People of both India and Pakistan have the same genes and ancestry.

 

[padamchen]

Unfortunately, There are no takers for this in Pakistan. The Islamists in Pakistan dream of unfurling green flag at Red fort. Nothing short of this will be an acceptable solution.

For them Muslim minority living under Hindu majority is unacceptable but a Hindu minority under Islamic majority is an ideal world.



What racial commonality? People of both India and Pakistan have the same genes and ancestry.

In my experience, the Iranic Pakistanis on PDF are the coolest about race.

Uncannily, the guys crowing loudest about the racial differences are the Indic ones.

Two things step out obviously.

They want to build a barrier to Indian Muslims who did not join them.

And they want to desperately show the rest of the Muslim world, the Arabs a d Persians in the main, as the two poles of Islam, that they are somehow not descended from Hindu converts.

Observe closely. It's a 100% strikerate.

Ask @PAKISTANFOREVER his ethnicity furst lol

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Do your research. Don't expect others to spoonfeed you on the internet.

Remember you represent Pakistan here.

I've already posted a link earlier. Read up.



Exactly so.

As you are the one making those claims, it is YOUR responsibility to present the evidence here, not mine's. It is obvious you have none. Just fantasies. Nothing more. Just like everything else you say.

 

[padamchen]

As you are the one making those claims, it is YOUR responsibility to present the evidence here, not mine's. It is obvious you have none. Just fantasies. Nothing more. Just like everything else you say.

No i do not accept any responsibility for you. Lol

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

In my experience, the Iranic Pakistanis on PDF are the coolest about race.

Uncannily, the guys crowing loudest about the racial differences are the Indic ones.

Two things step out obviously.

They want to build a barrier to Indian Muslims who did not join them.

And they want to desperately show the rest of the Muslim world, the Arabs a d Persians in the main, as the two poles of Islam, that they are somehow not descended from Hindu converts.

Observe closely. It's a 100% strikerate.

Ask @PAKISTANFOREVER his ethnicity furst lol

So says the person who claims that dark skinned dravidian south indians who are parsis are in fact Persians..........

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Even I doubt the credibility of those studies.

- PRTP GWD

You're more than welcome to doubt them, but unless you're willing to out forth alternative studies that prove otherwise, the studies hold more weight

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

No i do not accept any responsibility for you. Lol

Confirmed. You have 0 evidence that Salahuddin was a zorastrian as per your claims.........

 

[Brar]

Kashmir valley should go to pakistan, laddakh and Jammu to India. Everybody wins, everybody looses

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Please understand what is Iranian genetic composition in 2020 has had liberal epochal infusions of alien blood, Arab, African, Indic, Turkic on 4 broad time period planes.

These are not the same as two genetic pulses detected on Parsis and Irani Zoroastrians.

The older one male and Cypriot, coinciding with Alexander's invasion.

And the more recent one about 44 generations old, female and Indic.

Bottomline, modern day Iranians are mongrelized Persians.

First, the Persia speaking population of Iran already had western Asian DNA in them prior to the Arab conquest, who do you think lived in the Iranian plateau before the Indo-iranians arrived??

Studies have shown that the Mongol conquest had minimal to no change in the genetic make-up in the population of the Iranian plateau except for some concentrated areas in the region.

The two major compositions of the Iranian dna that came from outside the Iranian plateau are the Turkic and Indic genetic varients.

 

[padamchen]

First, the Persia speaking population of Iran already had western Asian DNA in them prior to the Arab conquest, who do you think lived in the Iranian plateau before the Indo-iranians arrived??

Studies have shown that the Mongol conquest had minimal to no change in the genetic make-up in the population of the Iranian plateau except for some concentrated areas in the region.

The two major compositions of the Iranian dna that came from outside the Iranian plateau are the Turkic and Indic genetic varients.

DNA studies are pretty advanced now. In being abled to map timelines of admixture.

Im talking about the last 1300 years after the fall of the Sassanids.

There was a pretty detailed posts with date ranges in one of my faceoffs with Iranians here in the past 2 years.

 

[El Sidd]

The Islamists in Pakistan dream of unfurling green flag at Red fort.

There already flies a green flag on the red fort.

There is no such thing as an Islamist Pakistani. It is an oxymoron and a self defeating argument.

 

[padamchen]

First, the Persia speaking population of Iran already had western Asian DNA in them prior to the Arab conquest, who do you think lived in the Iranian plateau before the Indo-iranians arrived??

Studies have shown that the Mongol conquest had minimal to no change in the genetic make-up in the population of the Iranian plateau except for some concentrated areas in the region.

The two major compositions of the Iranian dna that came from outside the Iranian plateau are the Turkic and Indic genetic varients.

Yes. Timurid. As well as Arab and African (slave trade from north Africa).