A Karachi Family in a Gurgaon Mall

[SHHHHH]

Rape happens in USA every 6 minutes, i read it on World Fun Facts(5001) on my mobile phone.

 

[Break the Silence]

Rape happens in USA every 6 minutes, i read it on World Fun Facts(5001) on my mobile phone.

Sir, this is not the right thread to post such type of comments, I hope ,you will delete it!!
Regards,

 

[Frankenstein]

JF-17 was chinese design lol now pakistanis taking credit for it omg

Both Pakistani and Chinese engineers work together in design n all, it is you who is getting pissed and jealous

 

[Frankenstein]

Rape happens in USA every 6 minutes, i read it on World Fun Facts(5001) on my mobile phone.

World Fun Facts?? how absurd, even when I hear this rape word, I am so disgusted

 

[desiman]

Every thread down to the same old crap, getting so sick of this place now.

 

[nForce]

Pakistan made India to come to dialog table was enough to justify the kargil.

That was the best you could come up with??Does that justify the military defeat of PA,loss of thousands of young lives,political turmoil following in Pakistan,International humiliation of Pakistan and exposure of inefficiency of PAF in engaging its chief rival???

So far as the dialogue table is concerned,that is happening thses days too,just without any kargil.That sounds a bit too much for that dialogue table.

In last we had to pull back bcoz of poltical issues.

Save the explanations part for later.

GDP per capita of both country doesnt have much difference. as of 2008 it was 1018 for india and 990 for pakistan, also some people put pakistan over india.

Now why do you start talking about things about which you have little or no idea at all???

FYI,what you are quoting is GDP(nominal),per capita.By definition,it is the value of all final goods and services produced within a nation in a given year, converted at market exchange rates to current U.S. dollars, divided by the average (or mid-year) population for the same year.
The figures presented here do not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the country's currency.

If we go by,GDP(nominal) per capita,then countries like Tunisia or Albania are even stronger economies than India,or for that matter even China!!Now that is not the case is it???
If we go by GDP(PPP),then India comes at a 4th position while Pakistan at 27th.
I will not waste my energy any further on explaining these things.

We were always leading South Asia in terms of economy,

With all the economic progress in India,even we don't give such exquisite overstatements.Try to think harder.Think about a country the name of which starts with 'C' and ends with 'A'.Now spare me the horror,don't say "Cambodia".

but the west was not happy, all western giants turned against pakistan bcoz pakistan was muslim country, u know what happened with our past leaders? Liaquat Ali KHan, west they tried their best to bring pakistan down, and the nuke tests also worried other countries, now all they want to destabilize pakistan do u think if there is such a big opposition against India, who dont want india to progress?

When he have no other better explanation,what do we do???We resort to brilliant conspiracy theories???Nuke tests took place in Pakistan in 1998.What was happening before that???So far as they nuke tests are concerned,India has done that too,well before Pakistan,in 1974,so did China,in 1964.

Even india was always against pakistan's progress, when pakistan got independence india thought that pakistan will fall within few days.

Care to tell me what exactly India has done to stop Pakistan's progress???

Until unless weapons are working, it doesnt matter if they are from aid, u indians all ways keep saying here that we are getting aid, do u know the amount that we losing bcoz of war on terror? AID is only fraction of the loss borne by pakistan economy bcoz of war on terror.

Just don't confuse between military funding by US and IMF aid.These two are essentially not the same.

Pakistani economists are famous in all world, even countries like south korea and malaysia was following pakistans economy, history of world says that west is against muslims, u can find 100s of reports on google, which are against pakistan, propaganda against paksitan, they keep saying that nukes will fall in the hands of millitants, pakistan will brake with months, but nothing happened.

I know about some Pakistani economists and journalists,read books written by them.They are indeed great scholars.However,the present state of Pakistan fails to share their general idea and vision.
Btw,how and why do you combine Pakistani economists with nuke man??

Do u see anything like this against india?

We have really worked hard to keep it like this,really hard.It needed a lot of patience,a quality lacked by many and intelligence,a quality not implemented by many.

USA invaded iraq, and after killed 1000's of innocent people, USA said it was mistake and we are sorry for it, isnt it enough to say that USA is anti-muslim?

Iraq was a secular socialist state when USA invaded it back in 2003.Get your data correct.BTW,USA is supposed to be a long term ally of Pakistan,and even helped Pakistan with military equipments,provided military advisers and observers even during India-Pakistan wars.How did all that friendly relationship go to North pole???

And today india's GDP per capita is slightly higher bcoz if u launch a brand in india, then it have more probability to become success bcoz of its population, thts why india has plenty of billionaires, but have u ever see nmbr of poors india and in pakistan?

I have already given my explanation on what you said about GDP.Anyways,this slightly higher GDP is not the reason for India having plenty of billionaires.India,just provides,plenty of opportunities,Industry friendly policy and environment and access to local as well as International market.

Just wait for war on terror to end, and after that if pakistan gets better leader then all u people knows that pakistan's economy will start climbing with speed, it will beat india's GDP per capita easily, which slightly got better bcoz of war on terror after 2002.

I would very much like to see Pakistan getting rid of those radicals and developing like India or China.

 

[harry_mohan]

I get one or two inquiries for a job in Gurgaon on a monthly basis, till they learn I'm a Pakistani . They have very good salary packages there, dunno why they are very keen on recruiting from out of India (mostly NRIs, I guess), probably due to the presence of foreigners in the area.

It's not necessary that companies in India might have problems recruiting bright people from Pakistan, but they do run a background search before even they start calling for interview and your name comes on top and relates to Defense and that too full of India bashing and Kashmir freedom support!

No organization would really be interested in hiring an employee on whom tons of legal fee would be spent to counter GOI lawsuits etc.

 

[Skywalker]

JF-17 was chinese design lol now pakistanis taking credit for it omg

Trol alert, just wondering if mods are sleeping right now and letting these trolls to polute this forum, go back to your $hit hole where you belong.

 

[into the wild]

JF-17 was chinese design lol now pakistanis taking credit for it omg

in any way u have to admit, v r big winners and u r and will always be big losers....

look at ur LCA

by the time ur LCA is ready will be making j-10 and jf-17 variants some thing lol...

( and i thought this is jf-17 thread, bcoz this fcuking indian behind british flag troll)

 

[friendly_troll96]

yeh movie last year bani thi na ? or 2008 main ?

tu 1 ya 2 saal main itni taraki keh more then karachi :o

Jhoot bole kawa kaate ...kaale kawe se dariyooo

is mn darne ki kya baat hy? kwa snjhe ga anpne hi jese hn... kaatne ki bjaye bole ga 'hum b tum hn'.

 

[friendly_troll96]

Trol alert, just wondering if mods are sleeping right now and letting these trolls to polute this forum, go back to your $hit hole where you belong.

saawan ka mosam hy bahr nikalne de bechaare ko

 

[Hasnain2009]

That was the best you could come up with??Does that justify the military defeat of PA,loss of thousands of young lives,political turmoil following in Pakistan,International humiliation of Pakistan and exposure of inefficiency of PAF in engaging its chief rival???

PA was in good position before the Pak Govt's desicion to pull back, caused by the pressure from USA(Clinton).
Have u ever heard Clinton's role in that war?

So far as the dialogue table is concerned,that is happening thses days too,just without any kargil.That sounds a bit too much for that dialogue table.

But there is a difference, today india is doing this bcoz of international pressure, but in reality they dont want peace or gud relations with us.

Now why do you start talking about things about which you have little or no idea at all???

FYI,what you are quoting is GDP(nominal),per capita.By definition,it is the value of all final goods and services produced within a nation in a given year, converted at market exchange rates to current U.S. dollars, divided by the average (or mid-year) population for the same year.
The figures presented here do not take into account differences in the cost of living in different countries, and the results can vary greatly from one year to another based on fluctuations in the exchange rates of the country's currency.

If we go by,GDP(nominal) per capita,then countries like Tunisia or Albania are even stronger economies than India,or for that matter even China!!Now that is not the case is it???
If we go by GDP(PPP),then India comes at a 4th position while Pakistan at 27th.
I will not waste my energy any further on explaining these things.

So in which scale do u calculate it?
According to IMF 2009 stats,

GDP PPP Per capita
India 2941
Pakistan 2,661

With all the economic progress in India,even we don't give such exquisite overstatements.

epic fail...even your Prime Minister says this;
Manmohan keen on making Mumbai a Shanghai

when every sane person knows that, currently Shanghai is already 20-25 year ahead of Mumbai and even gap is increasing, so after 10 years shanghai will be more ahead of Mumbai as of today.

I can here quote 100's of Indians who claims that India will become super etc etc..

Try to think harder.Think about a country the name of which starts with 'C' and ends with 'A'.Now spare me the horror,don't say "Cambodia".

What? Even bangladesh had higher GDP per capita then Cambodia, both pakistan and india has higher per capita income as compared to cambodia.
What i meant in prev post is that, Pakistan was progressing better then India for more then 50 years.

When he have no other better explanation,what do we do???We resort to brilliant conspiracy theories???Nuke tests took place in Pakistan in 1998.What was happening before that???So far as they nuke tests are concerned,India has done that too,well before Pakistan,in 1974,so did China,in 1964.

Not only after nukes but before nukes also. For example india's ambitions against pakistan, that pakistan will fall after independence.

Care to tell me what exactly India has done to stop Pakistan's progress???

Should i post dozens of articles written by well known indians saying that stable pakistan is not in the interest of india, i think google search works well in india, so google abt it, here u are acting like angels, do u think we dont know anything abt india's popular forums including bharatrakshak? Do u want me to quote 100s of comments by indians, who want to see pakistan bankrupt, destroyed, okay, one point will prove how much truth u speak,

Just tell me if u survey in india, then what percentage of people will be happy with pakistan's progress?




I know about some Pakistani economists and journalists,read books written by them.They are indeed great scholars.However,the present state of Pakistan fails to share their general idea and vision.
Btw,how and why do you combine Pakistani economists with nuke man??


We have really worked hard to keep it like this,really hard.It needed a lot of patience,a quality lacked by many and intelligence,a quality not implemented by many.
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So do u think we were sleeping?

Iraq was a secular socialist state when USA invaded it back in 2003.Get your data correct.BTW,USA is supposed to be a long term ally of Pakistan,and even helped Pakistan with military equipments,provided military advisers and observers even during India-Pakistan wars.How did all that friendly relationship go to North pole???

I have already given my explanation on what you said about GDP.Anyways,this slightly higher GDP is not the reason for India having plenty of billionaires.India,just provides,plenty of opportunities,Industry friendly policy and environment and access to local as well as International market.

OMG...i think u didnt read reports from international orgs, saying that pakistan is ahead of both india and china in ease of business.

I would very much like to see Pakistan getting rid of those radicals and developing like India or China.

I hope so....but can u prove it? Can u pack ur bags and go back home from Afghanistan?

 

[nForce]

PA was in good position before the Pak Govt's desicion to pull back, caused by the pressure from USA(Clinton).
Have u ever heard Clinton's role in that war?

PA was taking direct hits of the Bofors guns,with no cover and no artillery retaliation,and getting bombarded by the IAF jets again with out any retaliation.Thats what was happening before Pak Govt.'s desicion to pull back.It is also important and rather funny to note that,it was the army which started the war,but the govt. which decided to pull back,seriously exposing the lack of govt. control over army.I think even you will agree that, the aftereffects that followed were not something bright for Pakistan,rather than on the contrary.

But there is a difference, today india is doing this bcoz of international pressure, but in reality they dont want peace or gud relations with us.

International pressure is on both the countries.You know why is that??It is there,so that unnecessary loss of lives,terrorism and military misadventures like Kargil can be avoided.Would you like to prefer conflicts like Kargil that puts a strain on economy and results in loss of lives over diplomatic pushes ???If the answer is 'YES',then I am talking to a 'War Monger'.

So in which scale do u calculate it?
According to IMF 2009 stats,

GDP PPP Per capita
India 2941
Pakistan 2,661

I had my owns reasons when I said that I don't want to go any further on this issue.Anything I say beyond this will lead to a stupid d1ck measuring contest,that will finally bring you out of your dream that Pakistani economy is anywhere near Indian economy.

Anyways,no harm done in getting some facts correct.GDP(PPP),per capita depends upon the population.The GDP(PPP) of India is approximately 8 times that of Pakistan.While the land area of India(upon which the resources of a county depend) is about 4 times that of Pakistan.That effectively boils down to this-"Indian land is twice productive as compared to that of Pakistan."If we consider in terms of sheer population(while we know that a vast majority of population of both the countries don't contribute to the domestic product)then Indian population is about 6.95 times of Pakistan.That means that on a broad basis,an Indian contributes significantly more to the domestic product than a Pakistani.
Basically GDP=domestic consumption+Investment+Government Spending+(Exports - Imports)

This may not even consider the Forex brought in by that Software Engineer in Infosys who is on deputation in U.S.A or that Mechanical Engineer of Tata Motors who is currently in Jaguar Factory.

Now shall I start talking about GDP growth rate,National reserve,FII, FDI etc etc or you will use google to find them out???







This is what you had to say--

We were always leading South Asia in terms of economy,

This is what I had to say--

With all the economic progress in India,even we don't give such exquisite overstatements.Try to think harder.Think about a country the name of which starts with 'C' and ends with 'A'.Now spare me the horror,don't say "Cambodia".

This is what you had to say--

epic fail...even your Prime Minister says this;
when every sane person knows that, currently Shanghai is already 20-25 year ahead of Mumbai and even gap is increasing, so after 10 years shanghai will be more ahead of Mumbai as of today.

This is what our PM had to say

Manmohan keen on making Mumbai a Shanghai

You will notice,that neither me nor our PM says that India is the largest economy in the region.In fact he is trying to draw inspiration from the success story of Shanghai.But you claim that Pakistan was always leading South Asia in terms of technology.Now where is all that coming from??Does South Asia comprise of only Pakistan and Afghanistan???Then you are clear leaders...

I can here quote 100's of Indians who claims that India will become super etc etc..

Whats wrong with the claims that one country will prosper???How that hurts your ego???Even you can claim that Pakistan will too develop and prosper,which I am quite sure it will.Even if you don't claim,I will claim on behalf of you that Pakistan will develop and prosper.What on Earth is wrong with that????

What? Even bangladesh had higher GDP per capita then Cambodia, both pakistan and india has higher per capita income as compared to cambodia.

Btw,the country the name of which starts with a 'C' and ends with an 'A' and is a true leader in economy in the region is 'CHINA'.Was that so hard for you to understand??

What i meant in prev post is that, Pakistan was progressing better then India for more then 50 years.

What you meant was totally wrong.....

Not only after nukes but before nukes also. For example india's ambitions against pakistan, that pakistan will fall after independence.

Our ambitions are to develop and live a peaceful life.We don't keep ourselves pre-occupied with our neighbours.If you come to India,you will find out that,from time to time various things have been on our top agenda,sometimes social issues,some times development related issues.All these gives rise to progressive changes in India.Terrorism has been a chronic issue for past 20-25 years,with some references leading towards Pakistan,but I can't really say that featured so much in the Indian top agenda as much as India did in Pakistan's case.

Should i post dozens of articles written by well known indians saying that stable pakistan is not in the interest of india, i think google search works well in india, so google abt it, here u are acting like angels, do u think we dont know anything abt india's popular forums including bharatrakshak? Do u want me to quote 100s of comments by indians, who want to see pakistan bankrupt, destroyed, okay, one point will prove how much truth u speak,

Neither Bharatrakshak has the stamp of Govt. of India all over it nor PDF has the stamp of Govt. of Pakistan all over it.They don't speak for their respective countries.These are discussion forums based on software packages like vBulletin, phpbb,jForum etc. People can say whatever they like.So far as quoting them is concerned,the same I can do for some Pakistani members too,and I will not even have to go to some other forum for that,the present one will do.But does two wrong things make one right???So far as the scope of discussion is concerned,lets keep it between you and me.I speak what is in my mind and you speak what is in your mind.Okay???

Just tell me if u survey in india, then what percentage of people will be happy with pakistan's progress?

Silly question indeed...I can speak for myself.How on Earth I am supposed to speak about what is in the mind of around 1.1 billion others and give you a percentage on that basis???Just tell you a figure whatever comes to my mind???

If you ask me about general consensus,then let me tell you with utmost sincerity that many people in India will be happy to see a more stable Pakistan,as the economic instability in Pakistan may fuel fundamental forces,which may affect us as well in the long run.


You need to understand one thing here.In India,the politicians don't keep talking about Pakistan or US or Israel all the time in order to draw people's attention,which is somewhat the case in Pakistan.People are here more concerned with their own local issues.India is such a huge country,that each region has its own issues.We don't fantasize about Pakistan and its destruction all the time here.

So do u think we were sleeping?

What you were doing for you own development is none of our business.I don't think you were sleeping.As a matter of fact I don't even think about it.

OMG...i think u didnt read reports from international orgs, saying that pakistan is ahead of both india and china in ease of business.

Ease of business,while every other day some market place is getting blown up in Pakistan,my foot.Even in this month the Chinese Engineers in Gwadar came under rocket attacks.If it is for something for which Pakistan comes within the top 10 of list of failed states,it terrorist attacks.And you are telling me,it is a better business magnate than India or China????

I hope so....but can u prove it? Can u pack ur bags and go back home from Afghanistan?

Afghanistan is a sovereign country.It is not a vassal state of Pakistan.If the Afghans wish,Indians will be there,if they don't the Indians won't be there.Till now,India has been involved in development related projects in Afghanistan.India is the biggest regional aid provider in Afghanistan.I just don't understand why the economic co-operations between India and Afghanistan make some people feel insecure.

 

[jbond197]

Trol alert, just wondering if mods are sleeping right now and letting these trolls to polute this forum, go back to your $hit hole where you belong.

You failed to identify the real troll . Let me help you. Below was posted by a Pakistani Member claiming JF-17 a success story of Pakistani brain.

While pakistan uses it brains. JF-17 is another success story of pakistani brains while u know well abt indian brains i.e what is happening to LCA and DRDO/HAL.

To which Amit27 replied back

JF-17 was chinese design lol now pakistanis taking credit for it omg

So now tell me who brought JF-17 into discussion. If you use ur brains and realize that then follow the advise you passed on to him...

 

[amit27]

Trol alert, just wondering if mods are sleeping right now and letting these trolls to polute this forum, go back to your $hit hole where you belong.

wt a plonker