A Caliphate for Muslims but not for Pakistanis

[Irfan Baloch]

Titles like Khalifa, Ayatullah, Mullah, Imam etc. are all used by men to deceive and then control the masses and money/dollars/Ryals/rupees.

and Amir as well
recall Amir Tamour ..
who had one old Turkman skinned for calling him out Taymour Lung

 

[Informant]

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

 

[Hyperion]

First of all you come back home from the UK....... then we can surgically remove the Arab Caliph loving from you.............

What I've noticed is that most of the fools who immigrated to the UK and other EU nations, feel more for their Arab brethren and are totally clueless about their own culture and history. For you, now go wear that Arab garb and say "Ramadan", instead of "Ramazan" ten times over............ beat your wife and do a few honor killings........ make us proud in the UK..........

That book Magnificent Delusions has been written by a Pakistani traitor and SHIA Hussain Haqqani, who inevitably be against Bahghdadi ISIS who kills Shias.

Pakistan can be part of Caliphate just like the EU, granted Pakistan will also follow her traditions and have control over its nuclear weapons. Anyway Pakistan must be part of the Caliphate and the leader and Islamabad as the headquarters not some Iraqi town. !!!!

 

[Informant]

The way you talk..for your own good I hope you keep your identity well concealed.

Nothing is gonna happen to him in Pak, stop worrying.

 

[Hyperion]

People have changed/are changing back home in Pakistan........ people are more open about their views and bash them left right and center...........

The way you talk..for your own good I hope you keep your identity well concealed.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Khilafat system was a failure from Day 1 , when the family of prophet (pbuh) and his tribe i.e Banu Hashim refused to accept Abu Bakar r.a as a legitimate ruler of all Muslims .......

 

[FaujHistorian]

The Only Caliph I'd ever submit to are Abu Bakr, Omer, Osman or Ali (Peace Be Upon Them All) - No other !
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no one can. not in 2014. Unless you got a hold of a time machine. if you did let me know. I'd love to hitch a ride and be able to debunk all those romantic and false stories attributed to 4 Khalifas.

 

[Informant]

Khilafat system was a failure from Day 1 , when the family of prophet (pbuh) and his tribe i.e Banu Hashim refused to accept Abu Bakar r.a as a legitimate ruler of all Muslims .......

Not all of them, but his success in rallying up the Muslims was a testament to the doubters. Same was with Umar RAA. He was a statesman and leader like no other. The others were just not cut out for the role they were entrusted.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Nothing is gonna happen to him in Pak, stop worrying.

the post is made with "good intentions" and as soon as someone will mention the same about reprisals for talking against the Indian demigods then the whole Indian entourage will open the flood gates of emotional discharge.

watch space below even giving a hint kicks them between the legs.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Not all of them,

But the best of them , Whom Allah purified himself [33:33]i.e The pure five (Panjtan Pak) didn`t accept the Khilafah of Abu Bakar r.a , And the "rallying up" of Muslims by Umer and Abu Bakr r.a is one of the most controversial topics in Islamic history ...

Same was with Umar RAA. He was a statesman and leader like no other.

that is quite an exaggeration ....

The others were just not cut out for the role they were entrusted.

Usman r.a was too old (and incompetent) ...Ali r.a ruled over a part of Islamic empire only and he was not the sole khalifatulmuslimeen ... not for a single day

 

[The SC]

The article is surprisingly distorted in many ways, and holds more as a Muslim dividing attempt than talks about a genuine khalifat (Muslim confederation). This talk about Ajami ignores the most fundamental principles of Islam, like "there is no difference between an Arab and an Ajami, except for good deeds". Surprisingly enough to read in this article that Pakistanis see Arabs as their superiors, or perceive themselves to be 2nd or 3rd class citizens under Arab rule, even in Pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?Reading the article, one can not feel but that it is written by a hazed mind on some kind of drug, for some fake purpose of mixing the ISIL claims(not even confirmed) with the genuine Muslim Umma (Example: United states of Muslim countries or Muslim states Union) dream and aim of most Muslims, an economical, cultural, educational Umma (Union) based on the real socio-democratic principles of Islam, under a common defense umbrella to protect its assets,
Anyone with an acute sense of observation can see that the EU and USA are based on the model and principles of the Muslim Umma as an empire.

 

[American Pakistani]

Indeed as Pakistanis our Islamabad, Lahore, and Karachi should be the equivalent of Mecca, Medina, and Jerusalem in our minds.

You cannot compare apple & oranges. Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem are dear to us due to the fact that they are holy Islamic cities whereas Islamabad, Lahore, Karachi, Peshawar, Quetta, Muzzaffarabad, Gilgit city are dear to us due to the fact that they are Pakistani cities.

We have no need for the so called "caliphate", I would actually prefer merger with our cultural brethren to the east before a merger with that jahil Baghdadi in the west.

I would prefer merger with US rather than any of your mentioned.

 

[The SC]

First of all you come back home from the UK....... then we can surgically remove the Arab Caliph loving from you.............

What I've noticed is that most of the fools who immigrated to the UK and other EU nations, feel more for their Arab brethren and are totally clueless about their own culture and history. For you, now go wear that Arab garb and say "Ramadan", instead of "Ramazan" ten times over............ beat your wife and do a few honor killings........ make us proud in the UK..........

 

[Informant]

But the best of them , Whom Allah purified himself [33:33]i.e The pure five (Panjtan Pak) didn`t accept the Khilafah of Abu Bakar r.a , And the "rallying up" of Muslims by Umer and Abu Bakr r.a is one of the most controversial topics in Islamic history ...



that is quite an exaggeration ....



Usman r.a was too old (and incompetent) ...Ali r.a ruled over a part of Islamic empire only and he was not the sole khalifatulmuslimeen ... not for a single day

Yeah how about you keep your religious inclination out, and be objective about the achievements of the Islamic empire under the first two Caliphs. Ahlul bait could have had issues, but Islamic Caliphate has no place for Nepotism. Be they from the family of the Holy Prophet.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Yeah how about you keep your religious inclination out

How about you keep your religious inclinations (and emotions) out and try to read unbiased history , at least once in your life ??

and be objective about the achievements of the Islamic empire under the first two Caliphs

Genghiz Khan achieved more ... what is your point ?

Ahlul bait could have had issues, but Islamic Caliphate has no place for Nepotism.

Quran tells us about the status of Ahlul Bait , but nowhere does it mention the so called Caliphate system ... Neither did prophet (pbuh) gave the "Khilafah System" ... Anyone who believes that Khilafat is an essential part of Islam is simply ignorant .....

About Nepotism , I suggest you read that how the first two caliphs were selected .... Umer r.a selected Abu Bakr r.a at Saqifah , and Abu Bakar r.a later appointed Umer as his successor !! You call it merit ??