A Bold Case for Modesty: Is Pakistan Benefiting from the Multi Billion Dollar Modest Fashion Industr

[Metanoia]

It being mandatory or not has nothing to do with state enforcing it

Come on. Mandatory has nothing to do with enforcement/consequence?

 

[Zibago]

There are punishments in Sharia for these crimes, that are to be applied in any country ruled by Muslims (meaning Pakistan).

Nah there are no rules in Pakistan against those who dont wear hijabs (thank two dictators for that)

Not applying these rules makes Pakistan's creation meaningless, we were born to be an Islamic state as Jinnah and Iqbal envisioned, not a secular state.

I dont recall any legislation passed by him for mandatory head-cover or him discouraging women from doing that?

 

[Jf Thunder]

Prove me wrong then. Find one reputable scholar saying the Hijab is not mandatory.

There is no Scholar that is above the Quran.
Now if you want to add your explanation to an already clear Surah of the Quran, then I can do nothing for you

 

[Hamza913]

Nah there are no rules in Pakistan against those who dont wear hijabs (thank two dictators for that)

I dont recall any legislation passed by him for mandatory head-cover or him discouraging women from doing that?

Jinnah may have not known the exact rulings, but he was clear in stating his intentions were for Pakistan to become an Islamic state.

We will fulfil his wishes.

 

[Kaniska]

Pakistan was built for Islamic cause...why even your people expect the nation to behave as a secular way??Rather go in a direction for which Pakistan was created...

 

[Hamza913]

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There is no Scholar that is above the Quran.
Now if you want to add your explanation to an already clear Surah of the Quran, then I can do nothing for you

Oh no, we have another Quranist.

The Quran is not the only source, there are also the authentic ahadith, which is just as important as the Quran. These ahadith tell you how to be a Muslim, the Quran just gives the general guidelines.

Anyway, even when it comes to quoting the Quran, you flopped. The word used in Arabic is Juyoobihinna, which means more than just your chest.

I also take it you are not a scholar of Tafsir, are you? Because unless you are, you cannot make your own rulings.

https://islamqa.info/en/13998

Pakistan was built for Islamic cause...why even your people expect the nation to behave as a secular way??Rather go in a direction for which Pakistan was created...

EXACTLY.

 

[Metanoia]

Yes it is you dont shoot people or flog them for not saying prayers they will be answerable for it in their graves

It's NOT a matter choice. I am not talking about the legal worldly punishments in this world...I am talking about what does the Quran and the religious texts say. Does Quran say to the man to may be pray or may not pray, i.e. leaving it up to him? Or does it command him? Does the Quran suggests that it is up to the individual to consume alcohol or not? Or does it command the individual not to go near it? Likewise, what does the Quran say about hijab? Is it a suggestion or a command? Wilfully going against a divine command makes you what?

Btw on a side note, Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) did carry out physical punishment for repeat offenders of drinking...lashing.

 

[Zibago]

Come on. Mandatory has nothing to do with enforcement/consequence?

Yes it has if a govt makes it mandatory and enforces it

I am not talking about the legal worldly punishments in this world.

I am talking about what happens in this world so many folks make this world hell for others just because they think you may get punished in the other world

Watch us.

I am while living in Islamabad for the last 24 years of my existence

I am talking about what does the Quran and the religious texts say. Does Quran say to the man to may be pray or may not pray, i.e. leaving it up to him? Or does it command him? Does the Quran suggests that it is up to the individual to consume alcohol or not? Or does it command the individual not to go near it? Likewise, what does the Quran say about hijab? Is it a suggestion or a command? Wilfully going against a divine command makes you what?

DO you have the right to legally enforce that is the discussion here

 

[Hamza913]

DO you have the right to legally enforce that is the discussion here

We will when we get another Zia Ul Haq in charge, inshallah.

 

[Zibago]

We will when we get another Zia Ul Haq in charge, inshallah.

Those days are long gone

 

[Hamza913]

Those days are long gone

Oh boy you won't be laughing when it actually happens.

 

[Metanoia]

DO you have the right to legally enforce that is the discussion here

No need to shift the goal post Let's stay true to the point-of-contention, which is we're looking at Islamic justification and point of view in regards to whether Hijab is mandatory or a choice. My question to you is very straightforward as you were saying that hijab is a choice. I said it's not a matter of choice from the Islamic perspective.

We have free will, I am free to commit murder, free to commit zina, free to back bite, free to lie...however what does the religious scriptures say? Do they tell me to choose these options or if I feel like it? Or do they explicitly command me NOT to?

You can end this discussion by saying that it's your personal opinion that you don't believe in Hijab and that it's not mandatory according to YOU.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Oh no, we have another Quranist.

The Quran is not the only source, there are also the authentic ahadith, which is just as important as the Quran. These ahadith tell you how to be a Muslim, the Quran just gives the general guidelines.

Anyway, even when it comes to quoting the Quran, you flopped. The word used in Arabic is Juyoobihinna, which means more than just your chest.

I also take it you are not a scholar of Tafsir, are you? Because unless you are, you cannot make your own rulings.

https://islamqa.info/en/13998

Be careful with this statement, although the Hadith is an important part of Islam, always remember where which sources of Islamic laws are to be placed.
Due my extremely conservative nature, my tolerating abilities for things which go against Islam are extremely low

 

[war&peace]

For mahrams ONLY.

They shouldn't cake themselves in front of non-mahrams, no matter how modestly they dress.

And what should they wear when they go outside?

Yes it is you dont shoot people or flog them for not saying prayers they will be answerable for it in their graves

It is mandatory to offer salat but govt cannot flog people for not offering it since it is a matter of worship. Same goes for hijab but if someone drinks or commits adultery, there are clear instructions called hadood and those have to be implemented.

 

[MultaniGuy]

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A Bold Case for Modesty: Is Pakistan Benefiting from the Multi Billion Dollar Modest Fashion Industry?

ByArfa Shahid
Posted on February 15, 2018

DUBAI: FASHION FOR WOMEN OBSERVING THE HIJAB, TERMED “MODEST FASHION”, HAS WITNESSED A GLOBAL RISE IN THE LAST DECADE. ALTHOUGH MODEST FASHION HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME, IT HAS ENTERED THE MAINSTREAM FASHION INDUSTRY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

The modest fashion industry is worth a whopping $322 billion industry globally, according to State of the Global Islamic Economy Report, produced by Thomson Reuters in collaboration with Dinar Standard.

At an event focused on modest fashion, Deputy CEO of Dubai Islamic Economy Development Center Saeed Kharbash said in an exclusive with ARY that “modest fashion is one of the most important three pillars of the Islamic economy.”

Major international brands are turning their attention specifically to cater to women observing the hijab. Marc Jacobs presented a combination of headscarf and hats in his 2012 spring collection. DKNY created an entire capsule collection centered around Ramadan. Givenchy, Moschino, Dolce & Gabbana and Oscar de La Renta are some other worldwide designers that have presented fashion for women wearing the headscarf.

Turkey, London and Dubai have all hosted modest fashion weeks featuring hijabi models walking down the runway.

Dubai’s Islamic Fashion and Design Council (IFDC) is headed by Pakistani Alia Khan, who aims to widen the reach of modest fashion around the world. In an interview with ARY News, Khan said: “If the modest fashion industry was a country, it would be ranked number three after U.S. and China.”

But while modest fashion is on the rise globally, it seems as if Pakistan has dropped the ball on this particular niche within the fashion industry. Considering the large number of Pakistani women that wear hijab, both overseas and domestically, it is surprising that there aren’t more designers catering to the modest fashion niche in Pakistani markets, and that women wearing the hijab hardly get any representation.

Jazba Ali is a London-based Pakistani blogger who has founded “Modest Fashion Pakistan.” In an interview with ARY News, Ali says: “Modest Fashion Pakistan was found with the purpose of showcasing the everyday Pakistani woman that doesn’t have a team of stylists around her. The representation of women wearing the hijab in Pakistani media and fashion magazines is non-existent.”

Although Pakistani fashion and our traditional attire is modest in nature, the demands of someone wearing the hijab are unique.

Consider, for instance, these international brands that have catered specifically to the hijab-wearing segment of the fashion industry. Mattel launched its first hijabi Barbie last year; American department store giant Macy’s announced that it will be launching a clothing line targeted specifically to Muslim women, and hijabs will be a part of it; Nike created a sportswear hijab catered specifically for the needs of female athletes; popular high street brand H&M featured a hijabi model in its campaign, singer Rihanna featured a hijabi model in her iconic Fenty Beauty ad and a hijabi model walked down the runway at New York Fashion Week for Kanye West’s 2017 collection.

Khan is determined to bring the focus on modest fashion to Pakistan. In fact, she says, “Pakistan is a very special market for modest fashion. The concept of modest fashion is already there, it just has to be implemented and the exposure and representation [for hijabis] will surely follow.”

IFDC has already initiated its projects in Pakistan, and Khan promises an exciting spin for this particular segment of the fashion industry. Just as well, bearing in mind that Muslim consumer spending on clothing is expected to reach $368 billion by 2021 worldwide, a 51% increase from 2015. It would bode well for Pakistani designers to capitalize on this lucrative segment of the fashion industry.

https://arynews.tv/en/bold-case-mod...multi-billion-dollar-modest-fashion-industry/

A good move, we should promote our Islamic culture. Not nudity.