A Bitter Question About So Called Indian Economic Development & Naxalite–Maoist Movement.

[Scythian Salahuddin]

The moot point my friend is that Kashmiris never voted to be with u in the first place so excuse the tangent on a hyperbole!

 

[kbd-raaf]

The third biggest threat after policing/administration and food resources is KASHMIR, 40 billion dollars in defense spending last year while 85% of population lives on 20 cents a day! Democracy is a sham in India, conducting fair elections in a country that recently hanged Afzal Guru on mere suspicion in order to satisfy its non violent conscience ;-)

It's actually 99.8% the other 0.2% are the Bollywood actors and politicians

 

[Parul]

@Dillinger many Indian members get Negative Ratings from others when they Post Off Topic Rants! You should also use the power which you have!

 

[Dillinger]

The moot point my friend is that Kashmiris never voted to be with u in the first place so excuse the tangent on a hyperbole!

They did not need to. The partition of the subcontinent was carried out on the basis of the notion that the leaders of the princely sates would decide whether to join the Union of India or Pakistan. No option for a referendum or vote was provided for Kashmir at that time and both India and Pakistan followed this framework. The Maharaja acceded to India after Pakistan pushed in its Lashkars into Kashmir. Only after this incident did we decide to render such a practice null and void and annex the Nizam's lands. The irony is that had you been patient the Maharaja, despite his religion, would have preferred to have acceded to Pakistan given that India was very firm that he would not get to retain his title or the vast majority of his privileges whereas Pakistan would have been more than ready to make a compromise so as to secure Kashmir.

 

[PakEye]

Perhaps you need to educate yourself about the very meaning of the term Maoist.

If you give them their original democratic rights when they will able to get their land using in mining without their land rights / reforms, But Maoist are a bitter reality accept their rights and allow them to live with democratic independence.

 

[Dillinger]

@Dillinger many Indian members get Negative Ratings from others when they Post Off Topic Rants! You should also use the power which you have!

No point in it. He is not near enough bothersome to merit that. Besides so far despite his vehemence he has abstained from using invective.

If you give them their original democratic rights when they will able to get their land using in mining without their land rights / reforms, But Maoist are a bitter reality accept their rights and allow them to live with democratic independence.

You seem to be running into a wall here. The problem is simple, the grunts join because of economic deprivation and apathy but the ideology of Maoism is not connected to that, it demands the setting up of a communist state as I have stated before. Ergo while we endeavor to bring the fruits of development to the Maoist afflicted areas we cannot accommodate the maoist ideology nor can we conduct said venture on their terms. Nuance seems to be an alien concept here.

 

[PakEye]

Minority?? Maoists are not some ethnic or religious group that they can be called minority.

They are only Poor of the poorist they want their share of royalties of mining on thier lands.

 

[Scythian Salahuddin]

Same stuff, the PM of your country took the issue of Kashmir to UN n it asked for a plebiscite, the Kashmiris were fighting quit Kashmir movement against the Maharaja from 1931, just because maharaja wanted to save his estates n villas in Hindu India doesn't mean he had any right over deciding about his population.

They did not need to. The partition of the subcontinent was carried out on the basis of the notion that the leaders of the princely sates would decide whether to join the Union of India or Pakistan. No option for a referendum or vote was provided for Kashmir at that time and both India and Pakistan followed this framework. The Maharaja acceded to India after Pakistan pushed in its Lashkars into Kashmir. Only after this incident did we decide to render such a practice null and void and annex the Nizam's lands. The irony is that had you been patient the Maharaja, despite his religion, would have preferred to have acceded to Pakistan given that India was very firm that he would not get to retain his title or the vast majority of his privileges whereas Pakistan would have been more than ready to make a compromise so as to secure Kashmir.

No point in it. He is not near enough bothersome to merit that. Besides so far despite his vehemence he has abstained from using invective.



You seem to be running into a wall here. The problem is simple, the grunts join because of economic deprivation and apathy but the ideology of Maoism is not connected to that, it demands the setting up of a communist state as I have stated before. Ergo while we endeavor to bring the fruits of development to the Maoist afflicted areas we cannot accommodate the maoist ideology nor can we conduct said venture on their terms. Nuance seems to be an alien concept here.

Invective, rapes, murders, undemocratic ways to enforce democracy are the characteristics of an Indian army officer in Kashmir, guess u can't be one!

 

[Kloitra]

In Indian co called democracy
yes the Hindus are dictating the Kashmiri muslims religious rights as example "- Muharram processions remain banned in Srinagar since 1990"
mining of their lands without their land rights is not nagetive ?

I will ignore the religious part.

Anywhere in India, the first right to land belong to nation, and than the people. If government sees fit, if it sees the benefit of the country, it can acquire the land from the people. And most of the opposition of mining, especially in case of Naxal affected areas, is from people who believe they are entitled to entire land of the region.

They are only Poor of the poorist they want their share of royalties of mining on thier lands.

What is their share? Where does this share comes from?

 

[Scythian Salahuddin]

Nation = Nazion = Nazism , Your democracy has a Nazi mindset n that's why you have started producing Hitlers like #Modi

 

[Dillinger]

Same stuff, the PM of your country took the issue of Kashmir to UN n it asked for a plebiscite, the Kashmiris were fighting quit Kashmir movement against the Maharaja from 1931, just because maharaja wanted to save his estates n villas in Hindu India doesn't mean he had any right over deciding about his population.



Invective, rapes, murders, undemocratic ways to enforce democracy are the characteristics of an Indian army officer in Kashmir, guess u can't be one!

Funny thing about the UN resolution regarding the plebiscite, its conditional on the withdrawal of all Pakistani forces from Kashmir. Now you are welcome to contact GHQ and ask them to fulfill said precondition. Furthermore the resolution itself is not an enforceable one, as in it cannot be enforced upon us by the UN and depends upon India's agreement to go through with it. So we are not in violation of international law, for reference check the last few times Pakistan has raised the alleged issue of Kashmir in the UN and the response it has received.

 

[Scythian Salahuddin]

I will ignore the religious part.

Anywhere in India, the first right to land belong to nation, and than the people. If government sees fit, if it sees the benefit of the country, it can acquire the land from the people. And most of the opposition of mining, especially in case of Naxal affected areas, is from people who believe they are entitled to entire land of the region.

U r a Nationalist country with emphasis on Nazism n fascism, no wonder u r throwing up Hitlers like Modi!



What is their share? Where does this share comes from?

 

[Kloitra]

Funny thing about the UN resolution regarding the plebiscite, its conditional on the withdrawal of all Pakistani forces from Kashmir. Now you are welcome to contact GHQ and ask them to fulfill said precondition. Furthermore the resolution itself is not an enforceable one, as in it cannot be enforced upon us by the UN and depends upon India's agreement to go through with it. So we are not in violation of international law, for reference check the last few times Pakistan has raised the alleged issue of Kashmir in the UN and the response it has received.

It is also only applicable to demographics of 48'!

 

[Dillinger]

It is also only applicable to demographics of 48'!

The devil always lies in the details. To be accurate it is conditioned upon not changing the demographics from the one that prevailed in 48.

 

[Scythian Salahuddin]

Funny thing about the UN resolution regarding the plebiscite, its conditional on the withdrawal of all Pakistani forces from Kashmir. Now you are welcome to contact GHQ and ask them to fulfill said precondition. Furthermore the resolution itself is not an enforceable one, as in it cannot be enforced upon us by the UN and depends upon India's agreement to go through with it. So we are not in violation of international law, for reference check the last few times Pakistan has raised the alleged issue of Kashmir in the UN and the response it has received.

Read the resolutions carefully n see what should be the size of the Indian army, its less than 19000, india never agreed to bringing troop levels to that level n used Russian Veto to silence security council.....so stop walking on a shaky ground.