A 2015 warning to Pakistan and Turkey by UAE taking shape in 2017.

[BHarwana]

So what do you suggest, we should do to have cheap oil supply keep flowing?

Flowing where?

 

[BATMAN]

Flowing where?

Flowing to Pakistan..as it has been for years and you doubted its flow after completeion of CPEC!

 

[BHarwana]

Flowing to Pakistan..as it has been for years and you doubted its flow after completeion of CPEC!

The oil can flow into Pakistan tomorrow but the problem is that Iran has a huge output and Pakistan cannot consume that all and if the oil is diverted to China we will get our share and India will have to compete with USA for the saudi oil and there will be a proxy war between India and USA. Plus we need to throw India into Yemen war either from Irani side or Saudi. The militias will make no difference India has to do it on military base and a little tapping on the back from USA to project Indian image as a global power will do the job.

 

[Khafee]

No truth in the underlined statement.

You need to understand, this is the same guy for who a nanny's reports were the Gospel truth, so a wooden dhow with Pakistani sailors = PN. Deny it at your own peril.

 

[Levina]

Wars on foreign soils are a moment to strengthen and shine and build yourself stronger in the process---and make yourself and the nation prominent and prosperous-

Pakistani military generals do not have the CONQUERER GENES in them---except for one---all of them are born with this SLAVE GENES---" we will fight to protect our nation---and then they will lose the wars " from Raja Porus to the 20th century wars---if you look at the history of the region---not a single conquering general who could conquer the badlands---it was always the invaders that came in---comnquered the locals---and then moved onwards to conquer the lower region---ie india---.

Not done. After reading many of your posts on this thread I feel you show no respect to your ancestors.
War in Yemen would have brought more misery to Pakistan. For once your country had taken the right decision by not attacking one of the poorest countries in the world.
You would have earned nobody's respect for fighting somebody else's war.
Yes your people were called kamzoor khoon. But you must also understand that Buddhism came to pakistan about 2300 years ago and till 10th century most of your people were Buddhists. These were people who believed in ahimsa and nirvana. They were not warriors.
Be proud of your roots Mastan Khan.
Merely by blaiming your genes and your ancestors you will gain nothing. Pakistanis have to be united and committed in creating the country Jinnah wanted it to be. Your people are capable of it, just that they lack a sense of unity since they face an identity crisis. Coming to terms with your past might help. Just my humble opinion!

 

[MastanKhan]

Thank you sir.



Emotions alone would never bring you the results, but mastering the art of how to play with emotions will surely bring you desired results. GCC could have spent some money and used Pakistanis to create a favorable narrative in Pakistan for them, incentives, preferential treatment of common Pakistanis could have win them our consent and love. To make people of Pakistan love you, you simply have to tell them "Oh you are the fort of Islam, you are the ones, the chosen ones" and then see them all charged. Emotional fools we are.......... but GCC seems to bigger fool than us.

Pakistani state could have extended its influence, its importance, we seriously have all those customer locking opportunities, we can make half the world fall addicted to our geography and our importance but we fail again and again in benefiting from it. Only if we knew that in any symbiotic relation, if we wish we can any day take control of the host's mind and make him act on our wishes ............ but petty individual interests would never let that happen.

Hi,

Again---you addressed a very important issue---. I worte letters to both the ambassadors of saudia and emirates---regarding how fckd up their approach was.

But as they are our cousins---and as thick headed that they are---they would not have bothered---.

Car sales 101----when a man and a woman walk on the car lot---never assume that the man is the decision maker or the car is for the man---.

Once you understand that the decision maker is the woman---it is a car deal without much effort---.

The GCC did not realize the people power of pakistan and how to manipulate it---because for the GCC---pakistani public was MENIAL---and why to deal with menials when you have connections with the big bosses---. That was another blunder---.

And with a masterstroke---pakistan's military power would have taken a momentous leap---.

And people are whimpering about Iran---what could Iran do---they can't get themselves out of their tangled web---sitting on the verge of sanctions all the time---.

Not done. After reading many of your posts on this thread I feel you show no respect to your ancestors.
War in Yemen would have brought more misery to Pakistan. For once your country had taken the right decision by not attacking one of the poorest countries in the world.
You would have earned nobody's respect for fighting somebody else's war.
Yes your people were called kamzoor khoon. But you must also understand that Buddhism came to pakistan about 2300 years ago and till 10th century most of your people were Buddhists. These were people who believed in ahimsa and nirvana. They were not warriors.
Be proud of your roots Mastan Khan.
Merely by blaiming your genes and your ancestors you will gain nothing. Pakistanis have to be united and committed in creating the country Jinnah wanted it to be. Your people are capable of it, just that they lack a sense of unity since they face an identity crisis. Coming to terms with your past might help. Just my humble opinion!

Hi,

I don't have problem with my roots---. I have problem with the roots of most of the generals---they don't have the genes of conquerers---they all have defensive mindsets---. That is my one major issue.

The war in Yemen would definitely bring more misery to the neighbor when there were 8-10 sqdrns of tier 1 aircraft---naval frigates---6-8 armor divisions and subs and over 200000 troops sitting in the flanks under the thumb of a pakistani general---.

 

[HAIDER]

sara Musla aik jesa han .....inka kuch nahi hoga...

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@MastanKhan

Sir In case you wonder why Pakistan Army refused to join Yemen war
it is because till TODAY Pakistan Army is not deployed on IRAN border

It is only Rangers and other paramilitary

If you make Iran your enemy ; then India and Iran will get into a
Military alliance

Iran has never supported India MILITARILY
ie we dont have any alliance against Pakistan

That would have changed had PA joined Yemen war

 

[Levina]

I have problem with the roots of most of the generals---they don't have the genes of conquerers---they all have defensive mindsets---. That is my one major issue

You're repeating the same thing.

war in Yemen

>>> would have only made Paksitan weaker with more sectarian violence within the country to deal with.
India would have definitely been happy. Lol
Your govt for once had the courage to be pragmatic.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

@MastanKhan

I remember watching a Pakistani TV show in which CHABAHAR
port was was being discussed

The Pakistani analysts and panelists said that

" India -Iran Chabahar deal is a subtle message to Pakistan
THAT is If PA enters Yemen war ; The Next Step for Iran
would be to have Indian Military on Iranian Soil"

 

[HAIDER]

@MastanKhan

I remember watching a Pakistani TV show in which CHABAHAR
port was was being discussed

The Pakistani analysts and panelists said that

" India -Iran Chabahar deal is a subtle message to Pakistan
THAT is If PA enters Yemen war ; The Next Step for Iran
would be to have Indian Military on Iranian Soil"

After Ist Afghan war, Pakistani Generals learn alot and they totally change there policy of interference. They say NO to participate in any foreign standoff. But, only under UN flag. And Indian are using the same pattern. It is safe and secured. Because Pakistan is still paying the price of religious extremism , which tool was used against Russian army in Afghanistan.
Gen Musharraf pretty much remove many bad apples from PA.

 

[The Eagle]

may i ask our Moderators and administrators why is this thread is still open where anyone can spread hate but nothing else..
kindly close this thread.. #15 pages are enough..

@WebMaster @Horus @haviZsultan @HRK @The Eagle @Irfan Baloch

If the thread is being closed earlier, I see no rebuttal of the article hence, it is needed to discuss and be opposed on contexts that tells contrary to the fact. Also, just flow with the currents and understand, me too learning and understanding many things here... Let's walk together... Mere closure wouldn't do good much better like it is still discussed.

I told you before hand
look here it comes.
https://defence.pk/threads/qatar-disowns-sharifs.476226/

No new to me as you missed my reply for the same that tells what is happening exactly... Qatari Ambassador said it couple of days ago in live TV show which made it to News Article recently but the fact is, it was bound to happen on many accounts when Qatar name was heard in Supreme Court and alarmed them Qataris...... They already realized that needs Pakistan more than Nawaz Sharif.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

So---let us assume that Pakistan ended up sending 200000 troops to GCC.

The GCO is a pakistani---simply and purely in charge of the operation---.

The arabs are happy that their brethren are supporting them---and consider the life and security of the GCC as important as the life and security of pakistan and pakistanis---.

S---then who would have more influence in the gulf region---pakistan or india---.

If inida made a slight move to influence iran---all the indian expats could have been facing one way flights home.

Secondly or thirdly---if Iran brought up forces and struck pakistan---india would not indulge---because the world would want to see Iran being neutered once for all---and anyone interfering would feel the wrath of the world upon them---regardless of their size and mass---and if India dared on that option---the GCC would kick all the indians out of GCC---.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Pakistan made the right decision of not sending any ground forces to Yemen. To hell with the UAE. Pakistan nut stand its ground and not be used as a hired gun for these Gulf Arab states.

 

[BHarwana]

Hi,

So---let us assume that Pakistan ended up sending 200000 troops to GCC.

The GCO is a pakistani---simply and purely in charge of the operation---.

The arabs are happy that their brethren are supporting them---and consider the life and security of the GCC as important as the life and security of pakistan and pakistanis---.

S---then who would have more influence in the gulf region---pakistan or india---.

If inida made a slight move to influence iran---all the indian expats could have been facing one way flights home.

Secondly or thirdly---if Iran brought up forces and struck pakistan---india would not indulge---because the world would want to see Iran being neutered once for all---and anyone interfering would feel the wrath of the world upon them---regardless of their size and mass---and if India dared on that option---the GCC would kick all the indians out of GCC---.

How about Pakistan stays home and let Saudis kill Muslim.

Yemeni rebels have hit Riyadh with a Ballistic missile now UAE should ask it's good friend India to help because Pakistan is paying the price of not coming to war!