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because even sarcasm has limits and not to mention the so called policy here on sarcastic posts but oh well now we all know where it applies and where it doesnt.
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There are no rules and policies for the one's in power, Now you may know why Pakistan never makes any progress, it's the Pakistani mentality(power corrupts).............. if you know what i mean.because even sarcasm has limits and not to mention the so called policy here on sarcastic posts but oh well now we all know where it applies and where it doesnt.
Why do people find it so hard to understand sarcastic posts......
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There are no rules and policies for the one's in power, Now you may know why Pakistan never makes any progress, it's the Pakistani mentality(power corrupts).............. if you know what i mean.
When the Holy Prophet was in Makkah in the early days of Islam, he never was angry on people insulting him.
When did our Prophet said to kill people if they insult him. He even forgive people of Ta'if when he had the option of Azab e Allahi on them.
Mullahs love to use the "What if your mother is insulted" argument, won't you fight back then? Lets use the same...
A father's insult is not just he who curses his father, it is equally insulting if he is not followed or disobeyed - at least in the prevalent culture, in Muslim countries.
By the same count its not just an insult when you swear at the Prophet, it is also insulting when the Prophet is not followed. Who here can say they have ALWAYS followed the Prophet.
Ok the game, set, match boys. Kill everyone. Then shoot yourself.
Calm down Asim. I am also very depressed and inhuman reaction of some of my countrymen have deeply saddened me but there is no reason to lose sanity and logic. Keep your head cool and control your emotions. I am optimistic person by nature so i say good times will come.
As for those people who are celebrating Taseer's murder or justifying his death, may God show them the right path. I am hopeful that his death will not go in vain and people will learn to tolerate each other.
Asim makes a fair point, albeit sarcastically.
This attitude that only me, myself and I can define what is right and wrong is the problem.
As a small example, I have seen people getting beat up in a certain mosque when they did not kiss their hands and raise them to their eyes when Muhammad's (PBUH) name was mentioned, simply because the Imam of the sect had declared anyone not doing so not a true muslim and therefore not welcome in that mosque.
And yet all these people go to Masjid Al-Haram, and there no problem is created when muslims from all over the world say namaz differently in their own ways.
Umm, no. The reason why is that you haven't committed to taking any initiative.We all agree, or at least the majority that procedural changes need to be made in the B law, to include all religions and not just Islam. We also agree upon the fact that, no one under any circumstances should be allowed to act above and beyond the premise of the law. Can we please move on, now?
I am not an expert here, but my view is that the difference is in both character and enforcement.what is your take on the Hate speech law, which is enacted and implemented in many countries across the world? Is it any different from the B law, if so, how?
Very good point. Why were you or anyone else was not able to refute that Imam? That's because we do not know jack about our religion. People can say whatever they please, and we have to take it at face value because, we do not know enough to scholastically challenge them. Whenever someone tries to or misuses the religion, instead of running away from it, go towards it. Understand why that person is saying something and on what authority. Once most of us posses the requisite knowledge, people will not be able to make ignorant claims and get away with it.
There is no need to reach a 'boiling point' - people always have the option to walk away from an individual or ignore him. If someone chooses to listen to something until it makes that individual cross a 'boiling point' then it is the individual's fault, not the fault of the speaker.@ AM
But you would be provoked to react at some point, right? Everyone has a boiling point where they are no longer able to hold themselves back, and give in to their emotions. Wouldn't that happen to you as well, considering that you are a human as well, no matter how passive or calm?
That was an excellent effort by you, and indeed we need this kind of effort not just from secularists and liberals, but from conservatives in Pakistan as well.About the funeral deal, a friend of mine SMSed me expressing joy about it, but instead of bashing him, I just told him that, according to a Hadith, we are even asked to pray the funeral prayers of a person who had 99 evils in him, but just 1 good. Also, the prophet himself, prayed the funeral prayers of many Munafaqeen " hypocrites". I was able to convince him that he is at fault, and he accepted it. I was able to do that, because i had the required knowledge to do so. Use the brains and resources that you have at your disposal to educate yourself, and then others. In your own words" let's start playing our roles in the society,lets take control of things instead of just passing the blame, and try to change things for the better".
I understand that this was directed at Solomon2, but please allow me to interject and ask you a question I have asked before - if you are in favor of expanding Blasphemy laws to all religions, will you respect Hindus and Hindu deities (Shiva Lingam and everything else) and will you respect Ahmadis, their prophet and their religion, at least in terms of not openly ridiculing them, even if you disagree on a personal level with their faith?@ Solomon
We all agree, or at least the majority that procedural changes need to be made in the B law, to include all religions and not just Islam. We also agree upon the fact that, no one under any circumstances should be allowed to act above and beyond the premise of the law. Can we please move on, now?
Very good point. Why were you or anyone else was not able to refute that Imam? That's because we do not know jack about our religion. People can say whatever they please, and we have to take it at face value because, we do not know enough to scholastically challenge them. Whenever someone tries to or misuses the religion, instead of running away from it, go towards it. Understand why that person is saying something and on what authority. Once most of us posses the requisite knowledge, people will not be able to make ignorant claims and get away with it.
Umm, no. The reason why is that you haven't committed to taking any initiative.
I am not an expert here, but my view is that the difference is in both character and enforcement.
Enforcement is by the police. No one in the U.S. or Israel would take it in their heads to try to enforce the laws themselves, or to take out a gun and shoot someone for an offense, and certainly not for defending someone merely accused of an offense.