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9 soldiers martyred 20 wounded in a suicide attack

Why? They won't.


So the question is why is local tribes supporting them

Does it has to be anything related to people disappearing without due process or unsanctioned aerial attacks via foreign powers(can no due process)

" such activitiesl/extra judicial killing doesn't increase anti state sentiment" per military intelligence

But I don't think that's the issue here. I have met 1000s of local they don't support TTP. They are blaming military intelligence for allowing their movement and providing funding

We may say this ridiculous but several other things that looked ridiculous in the past came out to be true

It's the locals, it's been the same since 1947, the locals support terrorism

If anything you need to bring the HAMMER DOWN, increase enforced disappeared multiple times

In a war you can't pull your punches



I keep saying it, this is the FALLOUT of the fall of Afghanistan, the Taliban although not perfect are our best bet in Afghanistan

They are not a cohesive organization however, the afghanis are a rabble of a people
The tribals love fassad, they can't live in peace, they don't know how to




Remember they don't need a massive force, this was a Afghan on a motorcycle



Until you get rid of yourself from this DUNGAR population of afghanis you are going to suffer

The refugees, the tribals they are all involved
Don't trust any of them


Take the body blows and stay on track the wider plan that led to the fall of Afghanistan continues
 
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India has been damaging Pakistan constantly, 1971
You mess around with others, they would do the same to you. 1971 was a drama that was written, created, directed and acted upon by your leaders. The ending was written by India since you all had done a poor job of it.
Balochistan and KPK aren’t that bad yet, but have a very similar script. You make a mess and give a chance to others to take an advantage? They will take it.

If ISI is not doing the same in India, then you need to give them an eight size boot. Or they may be too busy trying to engineer internal politics and have no time for these tasks. Moreover, the current mess on your western borders and Afghanistan, is all doing of ISI and it’s bosses. They never did strategic thinking. All the goals appeared to have been worked out for just the next few days or maybe a week.

As a Think Tank, it is surprising to see, complete lack of thinking on your part. Not an iota of self analysis, only blame on outsiders. IK has raised very pertinent questions, that I posted earlier.

You give a chance, RAW will come calling, because, ISI did it in ample to us and still doing.
 
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We are Neutral.

But, They are Punjab Police 2.0.

Humay Koi Afsoos Nahi
 
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Innalillahi wainalahi rajioun




Once again lions led to there slaughter by imbeciles in charge who couldn’t organise a piss up in murree brewery let alone defend the country

Fucking furious ... blow up the generals and high command instead you cunts .
 
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This Manjan is so old that it's rediculous.
Psycho Asim Munir should stop hiding his black deeds behind the blown up bodies of our soldiers.
This dirty game of political meddling by military then covering it up with blood and bones of soldiers is too old top see through and doesn't work anymore.
People know now.
 
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We are Neutral.

But, They are Punjab Police 2.0.

Humay Koi Afsoos Nahi

They dead will almost guaranteed to be pashtuns from the same state

In fact most of the actual army is facing towards east and security in these areas was handed to police and FC and occasional army involvement

At the moment what you have is pashtuns just killing each other one way or the other, it's ridiculous
 
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They dead will almost guaranteed to be pashtuns from the same state
The contention should be State vs Non-state actors.

The sate actors could be Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi etc doesn’t matter. Non-state actors don’t target based on the ethnicity.
 
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The contention should be State vs Non-state actors.

The sate actors could be Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi etc doesn’t matter. Non-state actors don’t target based on the ethnicity.

You don't understand that region

Pakistani have a deep seated hatred for the Hindu because they rightly so consider them a enemy
If the experience of Indian Muslims is understood Pakistani were ALWAYS right about this

But since 1947, the afghans have been more intent on attacking, killing, murderous Pakistani then literally anyone else

You can look up the history, Pakistan did nothing to them and they were launching attacks





In essence this goes back to the previous century when Afghanistan sold the region and it's people, to the British empire
They took money for the land and then when independence happened they decided, they would retake the area something Pakistan was obviously not going to tolerate



I will say this honestly, if the TTP etc were Hindus, we would have torn them to pieces and every supporter, member, village suspected would have been bombed to hell






The issue is one of ethnocentric extremism that keeps the population backwards, ignorant and inclined to murder and bimbo


Truth be told they can never really take any area, what they can do is commit attacks that achieve little except death

Most of the killed are from the same areas as terrorists,
10 terrorists fight 10 security and 10 police, everyone dies and in the end their are 30 dead pashtuns
30 pashtun funerals etc



Because if the delicate ethnic mix the military can't go hard and brutal, so it's a gradual process of border security and security eradicating the groups by sheer pressure and assignations whilst taking the body blows






The Afghan Republic had to fall, the strategic threat was too great, but this fall out of a consequence that will need to be countered
 
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Oh Bhai kon sa martyr? Sedhi tara likho killed due to sheer incompetence and harampana of genrals.
Yeh is fauj ka professional competency ha Jo is mulk ka 70% budget kha Jati ha.Or baaten aisa xhodta hain jaisa in sa bari professional army poori dunyah main koi nahi.
Abb ISPR aik or milli nagma release ker da.

Or they are more focused on internal political engineering which is required for continuation of all army run businesses?
That is where they have been focusing since Pakistan's inception.

Sorry, I knew Pakistani members and pakistan, would never admit to or attempt to correct her past errors
Sorry but you know nothing and are only stereotyping.
 
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Sorry but you know nothing and are only stereotyping.

Sorry, might I am not but also I am not a young new keyboard warrior; I am old enough. From 1997 to 1998, at least, eyes noticed eyes looking... I am over 40 years old now...
 
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Sorry, might I am not but also I am not a young new keyboard warrior; I am old enough. From 1997 to 1998, at least, eyes noticed eyes looking... I am over 40 years old now...
If you did then you wouldnt be equating the whole Pakistan or Pakistanis in general. Alto has changed in Pakistan from past 16 months.
 
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RIP.

Foot soldiers pay the price when their leadership fails to do their job. Hope top chairs stop harming people of Pakistan.
 
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