9/11 : Then and now ( Photos )

[Dubious]

are more experts who debunks loony 9/11 conspiracy theories

Show me a thousand of them agreeing on 1 theory or scientifically debunking it not coz i said so attitude! The links I posted had SOUND scientific backing which none of your debunking experts could debunk!

2ndly, Bureaucrats can say anything on tv but they need to show that their data backs it! And why on earth would the family members of the dead also jump the bandwagon? Wouldnt they be up front with Iraq and Afghan war like you pro war person?

why do you not side with the majority

Because those you call majority are on govt payroll not exactly have left their job coz they dont feel it is right.....Your majority have their jobs on the line...You think they can call a spade a spade?

Leslie Robertson

You mean this guy:

Robertson certainly have much greater depth and scope of technical knowledge, not just of structural engineering, but of the towers themselves, than those who created and supports those loony 9/11 conspiracy theories.

You see the contradiction which you are following?

And this just 1 chunk so kindly do get educated!

Why do you not side with the majority of pilots who DO NOT believe in those loony 9/11 conspiracy theories ?

Do you know there is a whole ORGANIZATION of thousands of pilots - 2 of the videos I have put up in this thread but deniers like you will efficiently deny it!

Why do you not side with the majority of demolition experts who DO NOT believe in those loony 9/11 conspiracy theories ?

Do you know there are thousands of those too who SIDE with the theories -I have posted 1 video of such people! Now show me yours in thousands!

Why do you not side with the majority of scientists who DO NOT believe in 'nano-thermites' that are alleged to be and who dismissed Steven Jones, the proponent of that loony theory ?

No one brought that in...Apparently you are in the loony bandwagon bringing in BS as well! No wonder you cant differentiate science from loony!

Do not even try to present to US that you are an objective person. You already made up your mind, probably when the first aircraft hit the North Tower.

Who are you the defender of US? Same chicken who abandoned his own country?

As for representing US? I am putting videos OF AMERICAN people not myself! Kindly do get educated!

learned basic science

Where did you learn English

A madrassa ?

@WebMaster @Horus @Manticore @Jungibaaz @Jango @T-Faz @blain2 @Slav Defence @Emmie @Adios Amigo

Kindly do look at the low life when he cant answer! Professional or not he has no rights to showcase himself as the greatest fool on the world Just because someone isnt as blind as him!

Ray Bradbury Death: Does paper really burn at 451 degrees Fahrenheit?

So according to your HIGH CLASS science the twin towers were made of paper? lovely comparison! And I am the one with the madrassa degree?

There are plenty of real life experiences and evidences that items like books and cloths survived explosions, like a house gas accident, relatively intact with nothing more than burnt edges.

So it was an explosion!
Survived an explosion that an aircraft didnt? That the steel towers were molten and fused together but a passport survived a metal tube (called aircraft) [which didnt survive but the terrorist managed to throw out his passport (which after such planning forgot to buy another country's passport but decided to use his own) ] whose windows dont open but mr. terrorist managed to throw it out of the plane in a burning building which burnt, fused steel together and collapsed?

Try digesting that mr. expert!

 

[SarthakGanguly]

@gambit - can you stop explaining to terror sympathizers pls? This is a thread to post photos of the tragic event, the victims and the perpetrators. Not some place where Islamists can exonerate terrorists.

 

[gambit]

Show me a thousand of them agreeing on 1 theory or scientifically debunking it not coz i said so attitude! The links I posted had SOUND scientific backing which none of your debunking experts could debunk!

I do not have to show you those experts because their silence and disregard of your kind is enough. If these loony conspiracy theories are so scientifically convincing, there would be more than just a couple thousands on your side.

Explain to us: There are plenty of tall buildings around the world, many of them taller than the WTC Towers, so why are those experts not on your side ?

Because those you call majority are on govt payroll not exactly have left their job coz they dont feel it is right.....Your majority have their jobs on the line...You think they can call a spade a spade?

Right...So anyone who disagree with your kind and have the same or even better scientific education and experience than your kind, they must be on the government's payroll. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.

You mean this guy:

Yes. Why is Leslie Robertson, the lead structural engineer on the towers, NOT on your side ?

Do you know there is a whole ORGANIZATION of thousands of pilots - 2 of the videos I have put up in this thread but deniers like you will efficiently deny it!

And there are much more pilots who disagrees. Again, their silence and disregard for your side is enough. And again, they must be on the government's payroll, right ?

Who are you the defender of US? Same chicken who abandoned his own country?

I am in good company, buddy. Those who came to the US includes plenty of Pakistanis.

As for representing US? I am putting videos OF AMERICAN people not myself! Kindly do get educated!

Did I say you represent US ? You have a reading comprehension problem.

Where did you learn English

Sure as the sky is blue -- not in Pakistan.

So according to your HIGH CLASS science the twin towers were made of paper? lovely comparison! And I am the one with the madrassa degree?

Your ignorance and inability to reason is clear. That was to show you the error of the argument that somehow everything must be destroyed in a fire.

So it was an explosion!

To your simple mind, anything associated with the word 'explosion' must come from something deliberately designed for destruction.

Clue for you, ignorant one...

The Case of the Exploding Capacitor | Design content from Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine

After the accident, engineers investigating the incident found an exploded 4,160V, 125kVA capacitor. Because the capacitor was oil-filled, it produced a fireball upon explosion.

Ever seen such an explosion ?

Survived an explosion that an aircraft didnt? That the steel towers were molten and fused together but a passport survived a metal tube (called aircraft) [which didnt survive but the terrorist managed to throw out his passport (which after such planning forgot to buy another country's passport but decided to use his own) ] whose windows dont open but mr. terrorist managed to throw it out of the plane in a burning building which burnt, fused steel together and collapsed?

Try digesting that mr. expert!

This is why the majority of the scientific community do not take the likes of you seriously. Either you are grossly ignorant of science or deliberately deceptive of the same.

Let us take a missile strike on a vehicle that contained an al-Qaeda fighter for example. The missile destroyed the vehicle, as in shattering it to pieces. But in the wreck, there are also pieces of the man, enough that we can collect pieces of him for identification. How is this possible ? Did not the missile destroyed the vehicle ?

 

[Dubious]

I do not have to show you those experts because their silence and disregard of your kind is enough. If these loony conspiracy theories are so scientifically convincing, there would be more than just a couple thousands on your side.

Or maybe they cant answer coz they dont have an answer hence the silence....And more on my side loosing their jobs? I dont think so!

Explain to us: There are plenty of tall buildings around the world, many of them taller than the WTC Towers, so why are those experts not on your side ?

Show me some who arent!

Right...So anyone who disagree with your kind and have the same or even better scientific education and experience than your kind, they must be on the government's payroll. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.

We are talking about imaginary people who you seem to be convinced exist!

Yes. Why is Leslie Robertson, the lead structural engineer on the towers, NOT on your side ?

Who would wanna admit that he said BS on record?

And there are much more pilots who disagrees. Again, their silence and disregard for your side is enough. And again, they must be on the government's payroll, right ?

Or their silence shows they have no answer?!

Ever thought down that ally?

Did I say you represent US ? You have a reading comprehension problem.

Nope but I never claimed it too so since you assumed I did so I threw it back at ya!

Sure as the sky is blue -- not in Pakistan.

Def not in America!

Your ignorance and inability to reason is clear. That was to show you the error of the argument that somehow everything must be destroyed in a fire.

No apparently thinking and reasoning isnt your forte!

To your simple mind, anything associated with the word 'explosion' must come from something deliberately designed for destruction.

Clue for you, ignorant one...

The Case of the Exploding Capacitor | Design content from Electrical Construction & Maintenance (EC&M) Magazine
Ever seen such an explosion ?

yet in the report people denied there was an explosion @Oldman1 was shocked I talked of an explosion

The firemen in the video I posted on this thread talked of an explosion at building 7 where the plane never hit nor did jet fuel fall on it!

This is why the majority of the scientific community do not take the likes of you seriously. Either you are grossly ignorant of science or deliberately deceptive of the same.

and all you have been able to mummble throughout your post is ignorance ...heard of this heard of that but never a full stitched story!

You see individual events and pieces are possible but when stitched together they form a different story!

Let us take a missile strike on a vehicle that contained an al-Qaeda fighter for example. The missile destroyed the vehicle, as in shattering it to pieces. But in the wreck, there are also pieces of the man, enough that we can collect pieces of him for identification. How is this possible ? Did not the missile destroyed the vehicle ?

Pieces of man would be blood, skin samples and other stuff....As for identification you would need an uncooked sample....

Now getting a passport intact from a plane that now you are saying whose capacitor might have blown up to cause the building to blow outward.....that fire which melted the steel in the building didnt melt passport is really impossible....Had the passport been in the building and it had been blown out it might be significantly saved....But it was in the plane with the passenger coz that is how you board a plane - with a passport....and nothing much was recovered from the plane....and nothing much survived from the passengers....burning plane, exploding plane in a burning tower which collapsed but the passport survived and I am the conspiracy theorist?

 

[SarthakGanguly]

@gambit I am telling you. You are wasting your time. It ain't worth it. The world has moved on. The theories have remained that - theories and only the adjective 'loony' added to them.

OR

Let me give it a try.

 

[Whazzup]

@gambit I am telling you. You are wasting your time. It ain't worth it. The world has moved on. The theories have remained that - theories and only the adjective 'loony' added to them.

OR

Let me give it a try.

Never seen him backing out , grab your popcorn and enjoy.

Its a jihad on 9/11 theory now

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Never seen him backing out , grab your popcorn and enjoy.

Its a jihad on 9/11 theory now

He is harping on technicality. Rational people take that course. But he is not debating with someone who is rational but a terror supporter. The exercise is so futile. Better to post pics, the original intention of this thread.

 

[anon45]

@gambit I am telling you. You are wasting your time. It ain't worth it. The world has moved on. The theories have remained that - theories and only the adjective 'loony' added to them.

OR

Let me give it a try.

Its essentially like arguing with a moon hoaxer. Same tired debunked arguments.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Its essentially like arguing with a moon hoaxer. Same tired debunked arguments.

Only moon hoaxers have far less sinister a motive.

 

[Whazzup]

Its essentially like arguing with a moon hoaxer. Same tired debunked arguments.

LOL like I said those fake moon landing and UFO sighting crap.
Too much Discovery kids and Nat Geo for some its seems.

He is harping on technicality. Rational people take that course. But he is not debating with someone who is rational but a terror supporter. The exercise is so futile. Better to post pics, the original intention of this thread.

Have u seen his discussions with that Chinese martian2 guy? Irrationality of members here haven't stopped him in the past won't stop now too.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

My time is to valuable to argue with shills.

Anyone wants to know more about the crimes committed by the cabal should watch this.

 

[James David]

I was there two days ago!!!!

 

[dray]

lolz but it shouldnt have crashed downwards like all the foundation broke.....although the plane crashed at the top stories....

Another attempt at conspiracy theory, at what temperature steel bends? A village blacksmith deals with what kind of temperature?

 

[Dubious]

Another attempt at conspiracy theory, at what temperature steel bends? A village blacksmith deals with what kind of temperature?

he deals with steel or iron?

Most steel has other metals added to tune its properties, like strength, corrosion resistance, or ease of fabrication. Steel is just the element iron that has been processed to control the amount of carbon

Jet fuel vs Steel just google it

 

[dray]

he deals with steel or iron?

Most steel has other metals added to tune its properties, like strength, corrosion resistance, or ease of fabrication. Steel is just the element iron that has been processed to control the amount of carbon

Jet fuel vs Steel just google it

Steel doesn't need to 'melt' to collapse, it weakens, bends, and expands at much lower temperature, more so when supporting heavy weight. And btw, blacksmiths do deal with steel, a well-known example would be Samurai sword (Katana).

Now don't tell me that those planes caught on cameras were all Steven Spielberg stuff.