9/11 : Then and now ( Photos )

[Dubious]

Um he said they were small enough to be picked up in his hand.

and the pix you show are LARGE not small enough to be picked in his hand (not with but in)

 

[Whazzup]

All these stupid theories were debunked a decade ago. There were shows on NatGeo etc as well.
You cant fight faith(in conspiracy)with logic. Leave it please.

We need a thread on whether moon landings were fake or not.
Or maybe about Aliens too.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

We need a thread on whether moon landings were fake or not.
Or maybe about Aliens too.

It is better to report each and every post that furthers the terrorist propaganda. Such is the policy here.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

On it.

Me too. There are also videos on UFOs near WTCs.

 

[Dubious]

Don't follow the title of what people say. I could load a Barney video on youtube and claim it as **** and people would believe that title.

Oh btw, how did the passport survive the heat which heat couldnt? shouldnt you start making the buildings of the same material as the passport?

how big is your hand that you can hold this IN YOUR HAND?

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Even the way the building fell didn't look natural at all. Like a plane can't take it down in a uniform straight line. IF it was going to fall then the top part of the tower should have leaned and fell off. You need to be a complete retard to believe that a plane can take down a tower in a straight line. If the whole building should have fell then it should have shook or something. It just instantly fell. It was the most unnatural event I have seen. Sad to see so many people actually fell for it though.

 

[VCheng]

 

[Azizam]

Looks like they were already worried about WTC7. Hence BBC thinks it already came down. Doesn't make sense to report 20 minutes ahead based on some conspiracy. Probably wanted to report it early. Nothing new from news organizations. They like to report before getting the full story.

They told us to get out of there because they were
worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it,
coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon
building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom
corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over
to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up.
Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was
tremendous, tremendous fires going on.

Finally they pulled us out. They said all right,
get out of that building because that 7, they were really
worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they
regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and
West Street. They put everybody back in there.

Hahaha even the random BBC journalists are informed about the "conspiracy" apparently. Very bad job CIA did there. Not only conspiring but broadcasting the conspiracy.

 

[Whazzup]

Even the way the building fell didn't look natural at all. Like a plane can't take it down in a uniform straight line. IF it was going to fall then the top part of the tower should have leaned and fell off. You need to be a complete retard to believe that a plane can take down a tower in a straight line. If the whole building should have fell then it should have shook or something. It just instantly fell. It was the most unnatural event I have seen. Sad to see so many people actually fell for it though.

Cut the crap are u a civil engg?
here look at this

The reinforcement was in the center genius when the temperature crosses a certain limit it melts and hence the tower fell that way.
Structures are made up of Steel and concrete not just bricks kept in any random fashion. Geez

@SarthakGanguly how many members here believe in this crap?

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Cut the crap are u a civil engg?
here look at this

The reinforcement was in the center genius when the temperature crosses a certain limit it melts and hence the tower fell that way.
Structures are made up of Steel and concrete not just bricks kept in any random fashion. Geez

@SarthakGanguly how many members here believe in this crap?

It not that i buy these conspiracy theories but read what these structural engineer and physicist say

[video]

 

[Whazzup]

It not that i buy these conspiracy theories but read what these structural engineer and physicist say

[video]

Till where i saw this video it only discussed tower 7 sorry no info on that will comment when I have anything on it.

now about my post

The thing is structure was getting its strength from its core columns which were in the center and because of the jet fuel fire the temperature crossed 800 c the core columns melted and joined each other weakening the structure.

Now as the struts were already weak because of collision the entire structure collapsed as soon as the outer floor truss deformed because of heat and then all floors started falling right on each other
that debunks the theory of the member i was replying to.

(image not entirely correct floor trusses were taking strength from the core columns)

(outer floor trusses the one which connects the floors from outer wall.)

 

[anon45]

here you go if your mind is open enough

Debunking 911 Conspiracy Theories and Controlled Demolition Homepage

 

[gambit]

Well like I said I prefer believing experts than bureaucrats and media ...

Because they analyze and not depend on what the eye sees!

Experts -- plural.

That means there are many who knows the same and similar things. But it also means not everyone have the same depth and scope of those things.

So if you claims to believe in experts, and so far there are more experts who debunks loony 9/11 conspiracy theories than those who created and support those loony theories, why do you not side with the majority, of which includes Leslie Robertson, who was the lead structural engineer on the towers ? Robertson certainly have much greater depth and scope of technical knowledge, not just of structural engineering, but of the towers themselves, than those who created and supports those loony 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Why do you not side with the majority of pilots who DO NOT believe in those loony 9/11 conspiracy theories ?

Why do you not side with the majority of demolition experts who DO NOT believe in those loony 9/11 conspiracy theories ?

Why do you not side with the majority of scientists who DO NOT believe in 'nano-thermites' that are alleged to be and who dismissed Steven Jones, the proponent of that loony theory ?

Do not even try to present to US that you are an objective person. You already made up your mind, probably when the first aircraft hit the North Tower.

Oh btw, how did the passport survive the heat which heat couldnt? shouldnt you start making the buildings of the same material as the passport?

Where did you learned basic science ? A madrassa ?

Ray Bradbury Death: Does paper really burn at 451 degrees Fahrenheit?

There are plenty of real life experiences and evidences that items like books and cloths survived explosions, like a house gas accident, relatively intact with nothing more than burnt edges.

 

[Abii]

New York is a city everyone should definitely visit in their lifetime but its a crazy place to live

expensive and chaotic

I guess. I have a fascination with New York b/c it's been the setting of a couple of novels that I've read over the years. Plus I fucking love concrete jungles.

 

[gambit]

Still trying to fool other people or are you that dense? Of course there will be some major damages. We are talking about the whole plane vanishing into the building leaving zero trace outside the building.

Next, the US army should throw balloons filled with water to crack open bunkers as water can cut through steel.

This is the WTC towers AFTER construction and tenants...

Comparisons to the Empire State Building are absurd. But I guess this is why you have to work for 'alternative media' since you believe in 'alternative physics'.