5th-Gen fighter plan hits hurdle as Russia hikes cost ! Chinese Ping Pong ?

[ChinaToday]

hats off to Russia for milking india left right and centre every year

 

[Gessler]

We have no concern with what hurdles are u facing...my point was when india would induct FGFA's...so as it's mentioned in source...it doesn't seems possible before 2022...

It is not even possible to correctly estimate when the plane will be inducted in the first place.

This is because all the building blocks of the jet are only being cemented now. It's useless to even
give a date because you know it may well be 1 year after or 1 year before than the given figure.

@ChinaToday

You are just a jealous and pathetic troll who simply yanks and drools over every single article
written in the media. You just jealous that China does not have any 5th generation jets in the
pipeline so you troll on India's acquisitions.

And yeah, J-10 & J-11 are no match for Su-30MKI either.

 

[cirr]

F-35 is a joke。

Now we have India's FGFA。

Funny world。

 

[Ayush]

Russians are hard to trust when it comes to military cooperation.

are u era??

 

[HK Indian MBT]

F-35 is a joke。

Now we have India's FGFA。

Funny world。

Why do u think F 25 is a JOKE ?

This is called Chinese Ping Pong

 

[dbc]

220 KN thrust ? ! NO WAY !

In 2010 the F-135 achieved 50,000 lbs or 220 KN in ideal conditions.

 

[Rocky rock]

It is not even possible to correctly estimate when the plane will be inducted in the first place.

This is because all the building blocks of the jet are only being cemented now. It's useless to even
give a date because you know it may well be 1 year after or 1 year before than the given figure.

@ChinaToday

You are just a jealous and pathetic troll who simply yanks and drools over every single article
written in the media. You just jealous that China does not have any 5th generation jets in the
pipeline so you troll on India's acquisitions.

And yeah, J-10 & J-11 are no match for Su-30MKI either.

LOL! now that's new thing you bring infront of me..well firstly that's your gud dream that j-11/j-10 isn't compatible with su-30 so i don't wanna break this dream or ur's keep dreamin it...

secondly: i think u receive only ur national newspaper J-20 is chinese stealth fighter!

the one on top...so open up ur eyes n try to accept the truth...stop spreadin hate...

 

[HK Indian MBT]

In 2010 the F-135 achieved 50,000 lbs or 220 KN in ideal conditions.

R U Sure ? If so thats awsome for a Single Engine . WoW Mind Boggling Power. And people like @ChinaToday compare Useless J20 with F35 ? And call it a DUD DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY

 

[Gessler]

LOL! now that's new thing you bring infront of me..well firstly that's your gud dream that j-11/j-10 isn't compatible with su-30 so i don't wanna break this dream or ur's keep dreamin it...

secondly: i think u receive only ur national newspaper J-20 is chinese stealth fighter!

the one on top...so open up ur eyes n try to accept the truth...stop spreadin hate...

Who told you stealth fighter and fifth generation fighter are the same?

As of MKI, I'm not dreaming I'm speaking the truth!

 

[Rocky rock]

Who told you stealth fighter and fifth generation fighter are the same?

As of MKI, I'm not dreaming I'm speaking the truth!

here's the definition of 5th Gen Fighters:The exact characteristics of fifth generation jet fighters are controversial and vague, with Lockheed Martin defining them as having all-aspect stealth even when armed, Low Probability of Intercept Radar (LPIR), high-performance air frames, advanced avionics features, and highly integrated computer systems capable of networking with other elements within the theatre of war for situational awareness.

 

[Gessler]

here's the definition of 5th Gen Fighters:The exact characteristics of fifth generation jet fighters are controversial and vague, with Lockheed Martin defining them as having all-aspect stealth even when armed, Low Probability of Intercept Radar (LPIR), high-performance air frames, advanced avionics features, and highly integrated computer systems capable of networking with other elements within the theatre of war for situational awareness.

Okay...and how much of the above criteria does J-20 fulfill?

P.S. - Keep in mind China is blindly following the examples set by US, while Russia/India are actually
modifying some of those definitions to suit our specific needs.

 

[Rocky rock]

Okay...and how much of the above criteria does J-20 fulfill?

P.S. - Keep in mind China is blindly following the examples set by US, while Russia/India are actually
modifying some of those definitions to suit our specific needs.

Time will tell beacuse for now China & Russia both are running on same path you can't figure out who'll be the winner until the race gets over... so sit back n watch the Show!

 

[ChinaToday]

It is not even possible to correctly estimate when the plane will be inducted in the first place.

This is because all the building blocks of the jet are only being cemented now. It's useless to even
give a date because you know it may well be 1 year after or 1 year before than the given figure.

@ChinaToday

You are just a jealous and pathetic troll who simply yanks and drools over every single article
written in the media. You just jealous that China does not have any 5th generation jets in the
pipeline so you troll on India's acquisitions.

And yeah, J-10 & J-11 are no match for Su-30MKI either.

Typical clueless brainwashed indian take a look at this

China Claims Air Supremacy With Its New J-20 Stealth Fighter

A close look at China's J-20 stealth fighter, by Washington think tank The Jamestown Foundation, calls the plane a "game changer," that will render all air defense in the region obsolete.

With no refueling of the J-20, Japan, South Korea, and former Air Force bases in the Philippines will all be open to attack; with refueling, United States operations in Guam become easily acquired targets.




This capability allows China to take full control of both "island chains" that form the country's self-defined, maritime defense perimeter.

The study suggests that J-20s will be the tactical equal of U.S. F-22A Raptors as well as F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, and be capable of delivering large "glide bombs" that will "remain unseen through the whole delivery maneuver, effecting complete surprise."

With no radar arrays capable of picking up a stealth fighter, the J-20 will be undetectable to all air defense systems in the U.S., and on all its allied bases in the Asia-Pacific region.

U.S. options for dealing with the J-20 in the air are limited to the 158-plane, F-22 fleet that has been grounded since May 3 due to faulty oxygen systems that cause pilots to lose consciousness at high altitude.

There is currently no allocation in the defense budget to develop "counter stealth" radars in the U.S.


Read more: China Claims Air Supremacy With Its New J-20 Stealth Fighter - Business Insider

 

[dbc]

R U Sure ? If so thats awsome for a Single Engine . WoW Mind Boggling Power. And people like @ChinaToday compare Useless J20 with F35 ? And call it a DUD DONT KNOW WHAT TO SAY

Pratt & Whitney is upping the ante in the ongoing F-35 Joint Strike Fighter engine war by revealing the F135 has achieved combat-rated thrust 20% higher than the specification.

The disclosure raises the demonstrated sea-level thrust for the F135 above 50,000 lb.(220 KN), and follows results from the General Electric/Rolls-Royce Fighter Engine Team earlier this month that indicate the F136 alternate engine has in excess of 15% margin against the same specification.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...s-stakes-jsf-engine-battle.html#ixzz2Z7uw4mlY

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[HK Indian MBT]

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good job