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56% of Americans still believe Hiroshima bombing was justified – poll

With respect to @Nihonjin1051, I must tell that Japan has taken the hit for the betterment of India. If Japanese would not have taken the hit, then our insane neighbor would have hit us as it would not know the consequence!!

And also US, USSR would have hit each other, not knowing its power!!

In a way Japanese sacrificed themselves for the betterment of the world!!
 
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With respect to @Nihonjin1051, I must tell that Japan has taken the hit for the betterment of India. If Japanese would not have taken the hit, then our insane neighbor would have hit us as it would not know the consequence!!

And also US, USSR would have hit each other, not knowing its power!!

In a way Japanese sacrificed themselves for the betterment of the world!!

The sacrificial lamb, so to say, yes. Well I think the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is a reminder of the brutality and catastrophe of nuclear war. Imagine these 2 bombs' power pale in comparison to the destructive power of thermonuclear strikes, which have the capacity to eradicate entire regions. Not just cities. We are talking about the capability to incinerate entire human civilizations or civilization itself.

Let us pray that those who wield nuclear power do so with respect, with such great power.

Not just for their own sakes, but for the sake of the entire Family of Mankind.

I honestly pray that no nation will ever be struck with such destructive power ever again. No more.
 
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japan was screwed from the start of the war , they just wanted to bring hitler down with themselves, so they realize in their "eyes" germans and americans are no different
 
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japan was screwed from the start of the war , they just wanted to bring hitler down with themselves, so they realize in their "eyes" germans and americans are no different

Sure. They always teach us in military school that when you wage war, you wage war in a position of strength. For example, its always better to be in higher ground because the one who has to assault the higher position will, strategically and tactically speaking, will experience greater losses. Just some facts.

When Japan decided to initiate hostilities with America in 1941, Japan was already in a position of weakness. Japan was being embargoed by the US, UK, Netherlands; was already being starved of precious metals, and life giving oil (in response to Japan's decision to take French Indochina).She had also isolated herself from the world community due to her rapacious military policies. So again, we were in a position of diplomatic weakness as well as economic / military weakness (since we spread our forces so thin).

If you analyze the decision making of the Imperial War Ministry, it was really poor. It was a desperate gamble in striking Pearl Harbor. A gamble that cost Japan.

I suppose this is a lesson for all of us, Nations and People, that one should never exhaust diplomatic options. Diplomacy is preferable to unilateral military action.

I suppose we all can learn something from this unfortunate chapter in Human Civilization.
 
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Bro , its not about Gaining Territory , either of China or any other country ..



every Super Power has taste Defeat ... War is a Game , one will win , and one will lose ..
US got more Military Power and WMD , so they win .. If Japan got WMD's at that time , US will be broken into pieces

as would China and Russia.

Seriously that is debatable. The Japanese would still have had to get them to the US

They would have been able to negotiate a better peace treaty for sure though.

i guess you might be hinting at the US in a very subtle and japanese tone? well the US is on the path to total collapse , after obama it'll be downhill for america..

We've been hearing this from people like you since we gained our independence, and we will be hearing it from people like you long after you and I are dead.

:rolleyes:

Maybe you should focus your hatred on
bettering the corrupt and tribalistic society you live in instead? Try forming an actual nation maybe instead of wishing for the destruction of an actual nation halfway across the world?
 
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Imperialism and colonialism aren't necessarily wrong.

It's just that Japan was late to the party.

Europeans started colonizing the world from the late 15th century onward.

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Japan didn't start until the late 19th century. Mistake #1.

Also notice that the Europeans never confronted the powerful Ottoman Empire directly to open up the Silk Road and spice trade by force. They went in the opposite direction, sailed across the Atlantic looking for an alternative trade route, and discovered two continents.

Japan on the other hand has tried time and time again (and failed) to take the Asian mainland away from China. Mistake #2.

Also Japan had a nuclear program of their own.

New evidence of Japan's effort to build atom bomb at the end of WWII - LA Times

They simply didn't have enough patience to fully develop the game changing weapon before expanding. Mistake #3.
 
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as would China and Russia.

Seriously that is debatable. The Japanese would still have had to get them to the US

They would have been able to negotiate a better peace treaty for sure though.

yeah of course i was just replying to a particular post ..
but there are other great Empires who worth mentioned .
 
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Lot of Americans think we should march on china .. are they correct ?
 
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With respect to @Nihonjin1051, I must tell that Japan has taken the hit for the betterment of India. If Japanese would not have taken the hit, then our insane neighbor would have hit us as it would not know the consequence!!

And also US, USSR would have hit each other, not knowing its power!!

In a way Japanese sacrificed themselves for the betterment of the world!!

That's most ridiculous comment I have seen for a while

Does it mean Nazi Germany started the war to save the world too?

No wonder indians produced a judge like this one and he was "revered" in japan

He was the only South Asian person appointed to the International Military Tribunal for the Far East's trials of Japanese war crimes committed during the second World War. Among all the judges of the tribunal, he was the only one who submitted a judgment which insisted all defendants were not guilty. The Yasukuni Shrine and the Kyoto Ryozen Gokoku Shrine have monuments specially dedicated to Judge Pal.

Radhabinod Pal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Lot of Americans think we should march on china .. are they correct ?

It is expected by most Chinese.

However, China is imply too powerful to be taken, unlike the Imperial Japan who was less than 1/10 of the US industrial capability. China right now is more than 150% of the US industrial power.
 
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Seventy years after the first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, destroying tens of thousands of lives, a new poll shows that most Americans still believe the nuclear attacks on the city and Nagasaki were justified.

More specifically, 56 percent of Americans think the use of atomic weapons against Japan during World War II was justified, according to a new poll by the Pew Research Center. Meanwhile, 34 percent said their use was not justified.

While the number of Americans supporting the bombings has dropped nearly 30 percent since the immediate aftermath of the war – a 1945 Gallup poll found 85 percent in support – the number appears to have remained steady over the last decade. A 2005 Gallup poll found that 57 percent of Americans approved of the twin bombings.

The latest poll did find that attitudes have changed most dramatically in the younger generation of Americans. Another large gap was observed between registered Democrats and Republicans.

“Seven-in-ten Americans ages 65 and older say the use of atomic weapons was justified, but only 47 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds agree,” Pew stated. “There is a similar partisan divide: 74 percent of Republicans but only 52 percent of Democrats see the use of nuclear weapons at the end of World War II as warranted.”
In Japan, the poll unsurprisingly found that the public adamantly believed that destroying Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nuclear weapons was not justified. Seventy-nine percent of the Japanese said it was not, while 14 percent said that it was.

The bombing of Hiroshima is estimated to have killed anywhere between 66,000 to 150,000 people, mostly civilians.

In America, the debate over President Harry Truman’s decision to unleash the weapons has continued to be a controversial topic even in spite of majority support for it.

Those critical of the decision have presented a litany of arguments against it, including the contention that the atomic bomb was only meant to be used defensively, if ever, and that its real purpose was to act as a deterrent. As a way of defending this argument, they note that outside of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the bomb has only been used to deter opponents.

Opponents also state that the bombs’ use was intended more as a way to intimidate the Soviet Union than as a way to bring about an end to the war, since the Soviets were planning to declare war on Japan and aid the US just about a week after the first bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Others say there were alternatives to ending the war, such as permitting the emperor to remain as a powerless figurehead. If the US really wanted to demonstrate the power of the atomic bomb, it could have also conducted a test demolition as a warning.

Speaking with RT, Madelyn Hoffman of New Jersey Peace Action, said the “utter, total devastation and destruction of lives” that occurred was not worth the US deploying the weapons as “a flex of the muscle.”

“History, I believe, has shown that Japan was ready to surrender, that the dropping of the bombs was not necessary, and that they were dropped more to show US strength towards the former Soviet Union than anything that was going on in the war,”
she added.

Those who believe that it was justifiable to drop the bombs often argue that, compared to a land invasion of the main Japanese islands, Truman’s decision saved tens of thousands of American lives. According to the Authentic History Center, US military studies suggested that America could suffer anywhere between 23,000 and 49,000 casualties in the first 30 days of an invasion alone. Estimates for total casualties, meanwhile, projected hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Similarly, it has been argued that the bomb cut the duration of the war down significantly and forced the Japanese emperor to decide that maintaining the war was not an option. By ending the war more quickly, the argument goes, less Japanese died than would have in a drawn-out invasion.

“I think that the bombs were believed at the time to be necessary. as General [George] Marshall, who was head of the US military during the war said after the war, ‘we didn’t want to have to invade Japan,’” Richard Rhodes, an American historian, journalist and author who won a Pulitzer Prize for his book “The Making of the Atomic Bomb,” told RT.

The idea that the atomic bombs ultimately saved lives and hastened the end of the war has been pushed back against, though, including from political analyst James Corbett of “The Corbett Report,” a weekly podcast that discusses politics and history. He called this argument “a false narrative” because the imperial government was “planning to surrender before the bombs were even dropped.”

“The bombings themselves were not necessary in the way that is often claimed in terms of ending the war,”
he said to RT.

To illustrate the destructive force of the bombs, a new website called “NukeMap” has also popped up that can estimate the impact they would have if dropped on other cities. For example, if dropped on New York City, the type of bomb dropped on Hiroshima would have killed more than 263,000 people and injured more than half a million others. The bomb that fell on Nagasaki would have killed even more.

In Hiroshima, the anniversary was marked by a somber ceremony and a moment of silence in the morning. Some 10,000 floating lanterns will also be lit in the evening.

56% of Americans still believe Hiroshima bombing was justified – poll — RT USA

The horrendous suffering of the Chinese and 300,000 deaths under Japanese occupation was justified by the two atomic bombs that killed over 200,000 Japanese civilians.
 
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