56% of Americans still believe Hiroshima bombing was justified – poll

[Keel]

The horrendous suffering of the Chinese and 300,000 deaths under Japanese occupation was justified by the two atomic bombs that killed over 200,000 Japanese civilians.

300,000 died only during Nanjing Massacre
Many more Millions of Chinese have died all across China
and many more people have perished or suffered in many other parts of Asia as well

 

[yoshi.oda]

Yea, that makes a lot of sense. The Japanese attacked civilians so attack Japanese civilians as well. No wonder human civilisation is so great.

Perhaps the way the war was carried out should have been corrected. Decision to go south was not wise.

I mentioned this before in another related thread. And the theme I espoused was:

• Blessing and a Curse

We shall not forget , we must never forget

 

[Keel]

The darkest days in the History of China

Images: the Chinese People's War of Resistance against Japanese Aggression

 

[Aepsilons]

We shall not forget , we must never forget

No i suppose we shouldn't, and I think this period in the year should tie in with the surrender anniversary, a reminder of the consequence of unabated global conflict, a reminder of the consequences of failure in diplomacy and the outright ignoring of diplomatic consequences by governments.

Lastly, I think we should draw strength and wisdom from the words of the Showa Emperor who reminded us:

"Let the entire nation continue as one family from generation to generation, ever firm in its faith in the imperishability of its sacred land, and mindful of its heavy burden of responsibility, and of the long road before it.

Unite your total strength, to be devoted to construction for the future. Cultivate the ways of rectitude, foster nobility of spirit, and work with resolution – so that you may enhance the innate glory of the Imperial State and keep pace with the progress of the world."
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I think it is important to put things into perspective; Japan , in its present status, is an active participatory representative liberal democracy focused on the rule of law and on the harmony of the family of nations. Japan's current contribution to world peace through the arms of JICA has been active in rebuilding war torn communities around the world, funding for civic engagement, commitment to environmental awareness as well as staying active in peace-oriented missions. I suppose that is one major dichotomy between Modern Democratic Japan from the former Imperialist Japan some 70 years ago.

And in that respect, I believe the Nation has followed and stayed the course of the recommendations of the Showa Emperor. And I believe that it is to the best interest for the Nation to remain in that pathway.



Regards,

 

[yoshi.oda]

No i suppose we shouldn't, and I think this period in the year should tie in with the surrender anniversary, a reminder of the consequence of unabated global conflict, a reminder of the consequences of failure in diplomacy and the outright ignoring of diplomatic consequences by governments.

Lastly, I think we should draw strength and wisdom from the words of the Showa Emperor who reminded us:

"Let the entire nation continue as one family from generation to generation, ever firm in its faith in the imperishability of its sacred land, and mindful of its heavy burden of responsibility, and of the long road before it.

Unite your total strength, to be devoted to construction for the future. Cultivate the ways of rectitude, foster nobility of spirit, and work with resolution – so that you may enhance the innate glory of the Imperial State and keep pace with the progress of the world."
​

I think it is important to put things into perspective; Japan , in its present status, is an active participatory representative liberal democracy focused on the rule of law and on the harmony of the family of nations. Japan's current contribution to world peace through the arms of JICA has been active in rebuilding war torn communities around the world, funding for civic engagement, commitment to environmental awareness as well as staying active in peace-oriented missions. I suppose that is one major dichotomy between Modern Democratic Japan from the former Imperialist Japan some 70 years ago.

And in that respect, I believe the Nation has followed and stayed the course of the recommendations of the Showa Emperor. And I believe that it is to the best interest for the Nation to remain in that pathway.



Regards,

"Yu ki tai arashi ni taishi no chi ni koso matsu no kurai no ta kaku mi kere"

 

[Aepsilons]

"Yu ki tai arashi ni taishi no chi ni koso matsu no kurai no ta kaku mi kere"

そのとおりです

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Perhaps the way the war was carried out should have been corrected. Decision to go south was not wise.



We shall not forget , we must never forget

Yes, you shall not forget this national humiliation.

However, the US is simply too strong for you guys to lose its grip.

As long as the US still exists, you will simply live under its shadow forever.

 

[yoshi.oda]

Yes, you shall not forget this national humiliation.

However, the US is simply too strong for you guys to lose its grip.

As long as the US still exists, you will simply live under its shadow forever.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I assume that most modern Japanese love its American master, right?

Then forget about developing the nuclear bomb, you will never get one.

 

[yoshi.oda]

I assume that most modern Japanese love its American master, right?

Then forget about developing the nuclear bomb, you will never get one.

I see you want me to react in anger , Chinese guy?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I see you want me to react in anger , Chinese guy?

Today's Japan is too weak to terrorize anyone.

China is not even scared of the US, and do you think we would fear Japan?

 

[Aepsilons]

Today's Japan is too weak to terrorize anyone.

China is not even scared of the US, and do you think we would fear Japan?

Let's keep sticking to the subject matter, @ChineseTiger1986 @yoshi.oda , let's not use this thread to do a China vs Japan bash, please. And gentlemen, i think you two are very similar, being that you both are hypernationalists. No need to compete who's more hyper than who.

 

[CCP]

A nation with a nuclear bomb since 1964 but was unable to get back Macau from a rank country like Portugal till 1998

Pretty rich those pearls of wisdom there in your post !

Yeah, we just took back North Korea from US/UN in 1951.

 

[Keel]

A nation with a nuclear bomb since 1964 but was unable to get back Macau from a rank country like Portugal till 1998

Pretty rich those pearls of wisdom there in your post !

We got back Macau peacefully
How come india cant get back Pakistan Bangladesh with your nuke?

 

[TaiShang]

US will never apologize for Hiroshima, Nagasaki - President Truman’s grandson
Published time: 6 Aug, 2015

Visitors stand in front of a photograph showing Hiroshima city after the 1945 atomic bombing as they look at artifacts from the destruction caused by the bomb, at Hiroshima Peace Memorial Museum in Hiroshima, western Japan, March 26, 2015 © Issei Kato / Reuters

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Daniel became the first member of Truman family to visit Japan, when he took part in the commemoration of the victims of the bombings in 2012. He had been invited by Sadako's older brother, Masahiro Sasaki.

The visit had its tough moments, Daniel recalled, for instance when he was interviewed by a Japanese journalist, who repeatedly asked him whether he would apologize for his grandfather’s decision, which he didn’t.

Clifton Truman Daniel © RTD

“I don’t know that there’ll ever be an apology. Maybe the two countries can find language that brings them together to say ‘you know we acknowledge that serious hurt was done on both sides and we own that and going forward we pledge not to do something like that’ but it doesn’t feel at this point that there will ever be a flat out apology from the US to Japan or the other way around,” he explained.

Harry Truman acted in good faith and believed he was saving many Americans’ lives, Daniel said. This was the prime consideration for the president, who had first-hand experience of battlefield during World War I and valued soldiers’ lives, he explained.

He admitted that controversy over Truman’s decision remains, as some people believe that the use of nuclear weapons was not necessary.

“The real question which we keep trying to answer but we can’t is did it in fact stop the war. Some people say no, Japan would have surrendered anyway; other people say they were not giving up, it stopped them cold,” Daniel said. “But we can’t know that because we did it and the war ended, so we don’t know how it would have gone.”

“I think that Americans can still look at the decision and they can still say it was done for the right reasons,” he added. “They can also say look what it cost. They can have empathy. It doesn’t take anything away.”