What's new

$50 million RoboTaliban and US army

longbrained

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Mar 28, 2011
Messages
3,390
Reaction score
0
US military is the "most advanced" military force in the world or so we are led to believe. But what do we mean by advanced? No body knows the answer to that question but we can certainly say that US military is the most expensive military in history of mankind. Its efficacy and efficiency though sucks.

As the war in Afghanistan rages on, facts are coming in about the truth of US military might largely built on by Hollywood propaganda movies and shiny expensive equipment and training. But this "advanced army" has come to its knees infront of a few troglodytes in Afghanistan who are illiterate and still live in caves. But the most interesting fact is also the most expensive in history of military warfare. US on average spends more than 50 million dollars to kill just one Taliban. That is right each Taliban is almost as expensive as a shiny new F-35. That is if we believe US military statistics about all those Taliban killed and never suspect that they might be inflating numbers or just include civilians into stats as well which is invariably the case. If we exclude those and only base the caluculation on the true Talibans taken out by US military the cost is going to be several times more probably even each Taliban would be as expensive as a Russian aircraft carrier or a Russian nuclear submarine if not more. Now that is something. No wonder US is going bankrupt.


The Pentagon will not tell the public what it costs to locate, target and kill a single Taliban soldier because the price-tag is so scandalously high that it makes the Taliban appear to be Super-Soldiers. As set out in this article, the estimated cost to kill each Taliban is as high as $100 million, with a conservative estimate being $50 million. A public discussion should be taking place in the United States regarding whether the Taliban have become too expensive an enemy to defeat.

Each month the Pentagon generates a ream of dubious statistics designed to create the illusion of progress in Afghanistan. In response this author decided to compile his own statistics. As the goal of any war is to kill the enemy, the idea was to calculate what it actually costs to kill just one of the enemy. The obstacles encountered in generating such a statistic are formidable. The problem is that the Pentagon continues to illegally classify all negative war news and embarrassing information. Regardless, some information has been collected from independent sources. Here is what we know in summary and round numbers:

1. Taliban Field Strength: 35,000 troops

2. Taliban Killed Per Year by Coalition forces: 2,000 (best available information)

3. Pentagon Direct Costs for Afghan War for 2010: $100 billion

4. Pentagon Indirect Costs for Afghan War for 2010: $100 billion

Using the fact that 2,000 Taliban are being killed each year and that the Pentagon spends $200 billion per year on the war in Afghanistan, one simply has to divide one number into the other. That calculation reveals that $100 million is being spent to kill each Taliban soldier. In order to be conservative, the author decided to double the number of Taliban being killed each year by U.S. and NATO forces (although the likelihood of such being true is unlikely). This reduces the cost to kill each Taliban to $50 million, which is the title of this article. The final number is outrageously high regardless of how one calculates it.

To put this information another way, using the conservative estimate of $50 million to kill each Taliban:

It costs the American taxpayers $1 billion to kill 20 Taliban

As the U.S. military estimates there to be 35,000 hard-core Taliban and assuming that no reinforcements and replacements will arrive from Pakistan and Iran:

Just killing the existing Taliban would cost $1.75 Trillion

The reason for these exorbitant costs is that United States has the world’s most mechanized, computerized, weaponized and synchronized military, not to mention the most pampered (at least at Forward Operating Bases). An estimated 150,000 civilian contractors support, protect, feed and cater to the American personnel in Afghanistan, which is an astonishing number. The Americans enjoy such perks and distinctions in part because no other country is willing to pay (waste) so much money on their military.

The ponderous American war machine is a logistics nightmare and a maintenance train wreck. It is also part-myth. This author served at a senior level within the U.S. Air Force. Air Force “smart” bombs are no way near as consistently accurate as the Pentagon boasts; Army mortars remain inaccurate; even standard American field rifles are frequently outmatched by Taliban weapons, which have a longer range. The American public would pale if it actually learned the full story about the poor quality of the weapons and equipment that are being purchased with its tax dollars. The Taliban’s best ally within the United States may be the Pentagon, whose contempt for fiscal responsibility and accountability may force a premature U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan as the Americans cannot continue to fund these Pentagon excesses.

If President Obama refuses to drastically reform the Pentagon’s inefficient way of making war, he may conclude that the Taliban is simply too expensive an enemy to fight. He would then have little choice but to abandon the Afghan people to the Taliban’s “Super-Soldiers.” That would be an intolerable disgrace.

The problem is not simply within the Pentagon.

The hapless U.S. State Department is equally to blame. It:

1. Continues to sit on the sidelines of this war;

2. Refused for nine years to deploy an adequate number of civilian experts;

3. Continues to hire abusive and disreputable security contractors;

4. Failed to fight for the needs of Afghan civilians; and

5. Has made little effort to win their hearts and minds.

A crucial statistic that demonstrates this is to compare military and security expenditures by the United States in Afghanistan with expenditures for civilian aid, such as reconstruction. That statistic is as follows:

Money spent on Military/Security: $365 billion
Money spent on Afghan civilians: $8.5 billion

This latter number spells out “FAILURE.” U.S. diplomats and USAID officials have failed to improve the lives of ordinary Afghans and as a result they have accomplished the impossible. Their lack of resolve and interest has made an increasing number of disillusioned Afghans view Taliban rule as potentially an improvement.

Appendix (Supporting Information)

Taliban Field Strength:

The figure of 35,000 is based on an interview given by General Stanley McChrystal earlier this year.

Taliban Soldiers Killed:

The Pentagon refuses to disclose the total number of Taliban killed each month in Afghanistan by coalition forces, special operations personnel and the CIA. One reason became obvious during Operation Moshtarak in Marjah earlier this year. The Pentagon and NATO refused to specify the actual number of Taliban casualties in Marjah because the number was embarrassing low. American, NATO and Afghan forces reportedly suffered more casualties (killed and wounded) than they inflicted on the Taliban, making Marjah a military defeat for the West (if casualties determine victory or defeat).

To fill the gap created by Pentagon silence on this issue, media groups have published their own Taliban casualty count based on official and press reports. That count is inflated as the U.S. military labels everyone it kills a “Taliban militant,” even if they are criminals, drug traders, war lords or civilians defending their homes. As a result of the Pentagon’s lack of credibility on this issue, this author assumes that only 50% of those labeled as Taliban actually are.

The Associated Press has reported that 3,800 militants were killed in 2008, and 4,500 in 2009. Pro-NATO blogs, such as the web site “Terrorist Death Watch,” have calculated that 3,667 terrorists have been killed in Afghanistan since January 1, 2006, (about 700 per year). The author assumes that an average of 2,000 hard-core Taliban are killed each year

U.S. Military Costs:

Total military expenditures in Afghanistan are not clear as the Pentagon does not release all of its direct and indirect cost for the war. While most direct costs are known, billions of dollars in CIA and special operations costs are improperly classified and remain hidden. In addition, the indirect costs for the war (i.e., military regular pay, equipment depreciation, wear & tear, long term health costs, Pentagon support costs within the U.S., USTRANSCOM transportation costs, transport hub costs such as Manas air base, costs for borrowing funds etc.) are not precisely known. Independent studies conducted of the Iraq war are available and they calculate that the indirect costs equal or exceed the direct costs.

What we know about Pentagon direct costs is as follows:

- From 2001, to April 2009, the Pentagon directly spent $171.7 billion in Afghanistan.
From May 2009, to the present, the Pentagon directly spent an additional $166.3 billion. This is an incredible increase over the past 17 months.

Monthly expenditures have also seen a staggering increase.

October 2009, the Pentagon was directly spending $3.6 billion a month.
February 2010, the Pentagon was directly spending $6.7 billion a month.
October 2010, with the addition of 35,000 more combat and support troops into Afghanistan, the number must be close to $8 billion a month.

Some estimates place direct Pentagon Afghan war costs for all of 2010, at $105 billion.

U.S. State Department Costs:

Officially the State Department and USAID have expended about $35 billion in Afghanistan since 2001. According to most audits, about 75% or $27.5 billion has been spent on training, housing and equipping the Afghan security services, and road construction with the balance ($8.5 billion) being spent on civilian projects. Much of this $8.5 billion has been wasted on dilapidated schools and minor “trophy” projects in Kabul

Killing each Taliban soldier costs $50 Million - Kabul Press | Afghanistan Press |
 
Find these stats humiliating for the so called best army in the world. It struggles to control a few blokes in pyjamas and has at its disposal fantastic and the most sophisticated equipment. Something not quite right. It doesn't make sense!
 
Find these stats humiliating for the so called best army in the world. It struggles to control a few blokes in pyjamas and has at its disposal fantastic and the most sophisticated equipment. Something not quite right. It doesn't make sense!

Taleban have heart and belief? maybe americans dont?
 
Actually, what really is humiliating is that the American military stomped all over two muslim countries and there was not a single thing anyone else in the ME can do about it so the only you guys got left is to strain at the proverbial gnats on how the US 'lost' this way and that way over here and over there...:lol:...in a feeble attempt to assuage your shame.

I tend to find your posts extremely interesting, but I don't understand your need to be rude to anyone that claims anything that disagrees in the slightest with what you believe. I agree with your underlying point, but there are better ways to articulate it.
 
Actually, what really is humiliating is that the American military stomped all over two muslim countries and there was not a single thing anyone else in the ME can do about it so the only you guys got left is to strain at the proverbial gnats on how the US 'lost' this way and that way over here and over there...:lol:...in a feeble attempt to assuage your shame.

Hard feelings? Well, we have not written that. It was written by a US airforce employee if that helps with your feeling. By the way stats are solid and can be double checked on US gov sites.

---------- Post added at 07:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 PM ----------

I tend to find your posts extremely interesting, but I don't understand your need to be rude to anyone that claims anything that disagrees in the slightest with what you believe. I agree with your underlying point, but there are better ways to articulate it.

He is a typical arrogant American. He is taking pride here that his country has attacked two Muslim countries while the rest of Muslims were scared. Typical bully behavior. It has basically exposed his true inner heart feelings for Muslims which is as we know pure hate.
 
Actually, what really is humiliating is that the American military stomped all over two muslim countries and there was not a single thing anyone else in the ME can do about it so the only you guys got left is to strain at the proverbial gnats on how the US 'lost' this way and that way over here and over there...:lol:...in a feeble attempt to assuage your shame.

so it is a muslim american thing is it? Its amazing how the truth eventually comes out

---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:04 PM ----------

On top of the 50 us million dollar costs and the reported deaths look at the hidden costs:


One U.S. veteran attempts suicide every 80 minutes: Hidden tragedy of Afghanistan and Iraq wars | Mail Online

One U.S. veteran attempts suicide every 80 minutes: Hidden tragedy of Afghanistan and Iraq wars

By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 12:30 PM on 3rd November 2011


One U.S. veteran of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan attempts suicide every 80 minutes, according to new study.

In a staggering indictment on the lack of mental health programmes in the U.S. military, the report reveals 1,868 veterans made suicide attempts in 2009 alone.

Many veterans face dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder, high employment and a loss of military camaraderie after returning from tours.

Read more: One U.S. veteran attempts suicide every 80 minutes: Hidden tragedy of Afghanistan and Iraq wars | Mail Online
Original Post By Aryan_B
So were you equally concerned at the poor Pakistani who burnt himself to death in from of the Presidency recently?
 
so it is a muslim american thing is it? Its amazing how the truth eventually comes out

---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:04 PM ----------

On top of the 50 us million dollar costs and the reported deaths look at the hidden costs:


One U.S. veteran attempts suicide every 80 minutes: Hidden tragedy of Afghanistan and Iraq wars | Mail Online

One U.S. veteran attempts suicide every 80 minutes: Hidden tragedy of Afghanistan and Iraq wars

By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 12:30 PM on 3rd November 2011


One U.S. veteran of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan attempts suicide every 80 minutes, according to new study.

In a staggering indictment on the lack of mental health programmes in the U.S. military, the report reveals 1,868 veterans made suicide attempts in 2009 alone.

Many veterans face dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder, high employment and a loss of military camaraderie after returning from tours.

Read more: One U.S. veteran attempts suicide every 80 minutes: Hidden tragedy of Afghanistan and Iraq wars | Mail Online
Original Post By Aryan_B
So were you equally concerned at the poor Pakistani who burnt himself to death in from of the Presidency recently?

Yeah, that is entirely another issue. If we include total long term costs of both Iraq and Afghanistan wars it would come to trillions of dollars. Infact a study by a nobel prize winning economy professor at Harvard university and his team a few years back estimated the total cost at more than 3.5 trillion dollars. Now several years has passed since the data years of that study. Probably with all hidden costs and by the time US is completely out of Iraq and Afghanistan the total comes to something like 10 trillion dollars which is also roughly the same amount of debt US has accumulated during these wars. With that amount of money US could have found the cure for cancer, stroke and myocardial infarction the three biggest killers on planet earth and still there would have been left enough money to build a small underground town on Mars surface. Too bad now that these things are going to be done by China, which I am sure will add immensely to the international repute of that country. US is now bye bye with all that debt. Who could have thought troglodytes beating the shiny army:

backward+taliban.jpg

Nationalism-and-the-Taliban-15820vr-300x174.jpg

taliban_moderate.jpg
 
Yeah, that is entirely another issue. If we include total long term costs of both Iraq and Afghanistan wars it would come to trillions of dollars. Infact a study by a nobel prize winning economy professor at Harvard university and his team a few years back estimated the total cost at more than 3.5 trillion dollars. Now several years has passed since the data years of that study. Probably with all hidden costs and by the time US is completely out of Iraq and Afghanistan the total comes to something like 10 trillion dollars which is also roughly the same amount of debt US has accumulated during these wars. With that amount of money US could have found the cure for cancer, stroke and myocardial infarction the three biggest killers on planet earth and still there would have been left enough money to build a small underground town on Mars surface. Too bad now that these things are going to be done by China, which I am sure will add immensely to the international repute of that country. US is now bye bye with all that debt. Who could have thought troglodytes beating the shiny army:

backward+taliban.jpg

Nationalism-and-the-Taliban-15820vr-300x174.jpg

taliban_moderate.jpg

isnt this what osama set out to do ie bankrupt them? You know the twin towers symbol of western capitalism?
 
isnt this what osama set out to do ie bankrupt them? You know the twin towers symbol of western capitalism?

Let me rephrase here abit, Isnt this what Zionists set out to do ie bankrupt them? There is a mounting body of evidence that 9/11 and all these wars were Israel's plan to do away with US. Only once US is a broken state and countries like Pakistan and Iran weakened that Israel can try to materialize the ultimate goal of a greater Israel. Everything that has happened since 9/11 has been to make US and Pakistan weaker. Iran is next. Already the trumpets of war are loud and clear. Still having doubts about Zionism and their control over everything from Congress to Banks?

Greater_Israel.jpg


Greater-Israel.jpg


greater+israel.jpg
 
Actually, what really is humiliating is that the American military stomped all over two muslim countries and there was not a single thing anyone else in the ME can do about it so the only you guys got left is to strain at the proverbial gnats on how the US 'lost' this way and that way over here and over there...:lol:...in a feeble attempt to assuage your shame.

So its a crusade? multi trillion $$ economies vs poor,untrained,pathetically armed "Evil" muslims fighting mighty peaceful christians? better check out the sources "Aryan_B" gave!

Abt stompin over...Hmmm.... what was the cost of each dead vietnamese? considering USA killed 4 million of ur fellow brothers in ur country of origin?plus do i even have to repeat all those 10 dolla quotes frm vietnam movies made by hollywood...

What a shame man!
 
And as a result of this killing spree of 50 mil dollars per taleban the americans have 1 in 6 on food stamps real unemplyment at around 22%. How sad how incredibly sad people these americans and zionists are
 

Country Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom