5-year jail term for defamation of army, judiciary

[Imran Khan]

what about uniformed men defame our force ?????????

navy man was fighting in karachi in uniform

 

[HAIDER]

what about uniformed men defame our force ?????????

navy man was fighting in karachi in uniform

They were fighting for their Democratic rights.

 

[Imran Khan]

They were fighting for their Democratic rights.

they and thier families beating the civilians is that right ?

 

[Imran Khan]

 

[HAIDER]

they and thier families beating the civilians is that right ?

lol....this is their definition of democratic right.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Haramkhoor Sicilian Mafia at it again.

Why do you think everything has to be initiative of generals.. pti also had similar laws introduced during their time .

This is governments doing not a socalled generals ego.

 

[xyxmt]

False education of Pakistan Army bravado in Pakistan studies is not enough. People of Pakistan now see the truth so its time to stop people of Pakistan from speaking the truth about their great Army. Using the word "Plot" should be banned in Pakistan too.

 

[Sugarcane]

Why do you think everything has to be initiative of generals.. pti also had similar laws introduced during their time .

This is governments doing not a socalled generals ego.

Company made PTI fool at that time, but last time Judiciary wasn't part of law so they stuck it down, but now it's presented again by including kangroo courts as well. If you think that somehow PDM have started caring about Military and Judiciary, or Noon league have give ISI role of sole vetting agency out of love then there's no need to discuss

 

[Fasbre2]

How you know? Had experience ?

Their behavior says it all..

Their behavior says it all..

Everyone here respects the foot soldier and their junior officers who fight alongside them, it’s the corrupt army leadership SOBs that are the problem…
PDM crooks are bringing in this law in consultation with corrupt gernails so that both mutually look after each others back, so both can carry on looting and their corruption without criticism..
just need to wait now for law banning anyone from criticizing ruling government or minister… punishable as treason..

Country is truly fukced, army will not allow IK in power again to safeguard their corruption. That’s why they vetoed any revelation of army officers assets as part of IMF bailout.

People rising up is the only way to stop the spiral to a North Korean style dictatorship..

Only those who are jahil or themselves corrupt will support and justify actions of PDM/military junta..

 

[kris]

PML-N leader and former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi has voiced his support for an upcoming draft bill that would amend the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) and the Code of Criminal Procedure (CrPC), and award up to five-year imprisonment to whoever scandalises, or ridicules the Pakistan Army and judiciary through any medium, Dawn.com has learnt.

The draft bill, a copy of which has been seen by Dawn.com, was vetted by the Ministry of Law and Justice and initiated by the Ministry of Interior for the prime minister and federal cabinet.

A cabinet summary in this regard outlines the aim of the soon-to-be proposed bill clearly as lately social media has been rife with criticism of the army and courts.

According to sources in the Ministry of Interior, the summary and the bill will be forwarded to the federal cabinet soon.

When approached for a comment on the planned legislation, Abbasi told Dawn.com that he had not seen the draft but there had to be “some limit” to defaming someone.

“Everywhere in the world there is a defamation law and this does not happen that anyone comes up willy-nilly and says whatever they want,” he said.

However, PML-N’s Rohail Asghar said no such laws should be passed by the government, adding that if such legislation were to sail through, “it would rebound on those bringing them”.

He rubbished the notion that criticising institutions amounted to their defamation, saying that if voters could criticise their constituency heads then anyone could be. Asghar added that clamping down on freedom of expression would yield no benefit and there should be space allowed for criticism.

Titled Criminal Laws (Amendment) Act, 2023, the bill suggests a new section 500A after section 500 in PPC 1860. The new section is titled ‘Intentional ridiculing or scandalising of the state institutions etc.’

It says that whoever makes, publishes, circulates any statement or disseminates information, through any medium, with an intention to ridicule or scandalise the judiciary, the armed forces or any of their member will be guilty of an offence punishable with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years or with a fine which may extend to Rs1 million or with both.

Similarly, in the Schedule II of the PPC, a new section titled 500A has been added to section 500, which says that the offender will be arrested without a warrant and the offence will be non-bailable and non-compoundable which can only be challenged in a sessions court.

The cabinet summary states that recently the country has witnessed a spate of scandalous, derogatory and vicious attacks on certain institutions of the state, including the judiciary and armed forces.

It adds that it is well-known that a deliberate cyber campaign has been launched by certain wings for self-serving motives with the objective of inciting and nurturing hatred against important state institutions and their officials.

It also states that such attacks are focused on undermining the integrity, stability and independence of the country’s state institutions. The summary says that judicial and army officials do not have the opportunity to step forward and negate scandalous, derogatory remarks while appearing in the media.

The document suggests that given the long-tested legal principle noted in Section 196 of the CrPC, prior approval of the federal government before taking cognisance of the case or registration of a first information report (FIR) against any person has been made mandatory to avoid misuse of the mooted PPC section.

A similar draft bill was approved by a National Assembly (NA) standing committee in April 2021 which proposed up to two years imprisonment and a fine for those who “intentionally ridicule the armed forces”. The draft had drawn the ire of politicians from across the divide as well as the legal fraternity.

The criticism of the bill was not only from opposition parties but also from the then-federal ministers Fawad Chaudhry and Dr Shireen Mazari.

“Absolutely ridiculous idea to criminalise criticism, respect is earned, cannot be imposed on people. I strongly feel instead of new such laws contempt of court laws should be repealed,” Chaudhry had said in a tweet.

The bill, titled Criminal Law Amendment Bill 2020, was introduced by PTI legislator Amjid Ali Khan and was approved by the NA committee amid strong objections from the PPP’s Agha Rafiullah and PML-N’s Marriyum Aurangzeb. However, it did not sail through the two houses for undeclared reasons.

Likewise, the government in November last year had approved an amendment to the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Act 1974, which empowered the agency to act against anyone who intends to spread “rumours and false information against state institutions” on social media.

After the reports of the amendment, Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah had told reporters in parliament that if the bill was against the freedom of expression then “we won’t pass it and won’t be with it.”

No such legislation has taken place since then.

Govt readies new law proposing five-year jail terms for defamation of army, judiciary

Draft bill to be sent to federal cabinet for approval before it lands in parliament; PML-N's Shahid Khaqan Abbasi lends support.

www.dawn.com

Why even stop at 5 years .... lol

 

[Sugarcane]

Why even stop at 5 years .... lol

When without this law East India Company is detaining and torturing 5 years legal cover is already overkill.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Why the Army is doing everything, every act to defame the Army, this is beyond common sense.

Maybe they have lost the senses, maynot be, but hatred devours mental capacity, and the hidden fear of loosing, be it power and pelf.

And the contempt of court promulgations will get more contempt and ridicule for the courts by the Awam.

 

[Goenitz]

How you know? Had experience ?

Ther are too transparent that it is all visible..

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

PML-N leader and former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi has voiced his support for an upcoming draft bill that would amend the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC) and the Code of Criminal Procedure (CrPC), and award up to five-year imprisonment to whoever scandalises, or ridicules the Pakistan Army and judiciary through any medium, Dawn.com has learnt.

The draft bill, a copy of which has been seen by Dawn.com, was vetted by the Ministry of Law and Justice and initiated by the Ministry of Interior for the prime minister and federal cabinet.

A cabinet summary in this regard outlines the aim of the soon-to-be proposed bill clearly as lately social media has been rife with criticism of the army and courts.

According to sources in the Ministry of Interior, the summary and the bill will be forwarded to the federal cabinet soon.

When approached for a comment on the planned legislation, Abbasi told Dawn.com that he had not seen the draft but there had to be “some limit” to defaming someone.

“Everywhere in the world there is a defamation law and this does not happen that anyone comes up willy-nilly and says whatever they want,” he said.

However, PML-N’s Rohail Asghar said no such laws should be passed by the government, adding that if such legislation were to sail through, “it would rebound on those bringing them”.

He rubbished the notion that criticising institutions amounted to their defamation, saying that if voters could criticise their constituency heads then anyone could be. Asghar added that clamping down on freedom of expression would yield no benefit and there should be space allowed for criticism.

Titled Criminal Laws (Amendment) Act, 2023, the bill suggests a new section 500A after section 500 in PPC 1860. The new section is titled ‘Intentional ridiculing or scandalising of the state institutions etc.’

It says that whoever makes, publishes, circulates any statement or disseminates information, through any medium, with an intention to ridicule or scandalise the judiciary, the armed forces or any of their member will be guilty of an offence punishable with simple imprisonment for a term which may extend to five years or with a fine which may extend to Rs1 million or with both.

Similarly, in the Schedule II of the PPC, a new section titled 500A has been added to section 500, which says that the offender will be arrested without a warrant and the offence will be non-bailable and non-compoundable which can only be challenged in a sessions court.

The cabinet summary states that recently the country has witnessed a spate of scandalous, derogatory and vicious attacks on certain institutions of the state, including the judiciary and armed forces.

It adds that it is well-known that a deliberate cyber campaign has been launched by certain wings for self-serving motives with the objective of inciting and nurturing hatred against important state institutions and their officials.

It also states that such attacks are focused on undermining the integrity, stability and independence of the country’s state institutions. The summary says that judicial and army officials do not have the opportunity to step forward and negate scandalous, derogatory remarks while appearing in the media.

The document suggests that given the long-tested legal principle noted in Section 196 of the CrPC, prior approval of the federal government before taking cognisance of the case or registration of a first information report (FIR) against any person has been made mandatory to avoid misuse of the mooted PPC section.

A similar draft bill was approved by a National Assembly (NA) standing committee in April 2021 which proposed up to two years imprisonment and a fine for those who “intentionally ridicule the armed forces”. The draft had drawn the ire of politicians from across the divide as well as the legal fraternity.

The criticism of the bill was not only from opposition parties but also from the then-federal ministers Fawad Chaudhry and Dr Shireen Mazari.

“Absolutely ridiculous idea to criminalise criticism, respect is earned, cannot be imposed on people. I strongly feel instead of new such laws contempt of court laws should be repealed,” Chaudhry had said in a tweet.

The bill, titled Criminal Law Amendment Bill 2020, was introduced by PTI legislator Amjid Ali Khan and was approved by the NA committee amid strong objections from the PPP’s Agha Rafiullah and PML-N’s Marriyum Aurangzeb. However, it did not sail through the two houses for undeclared reasons.

Likewise, the government in November last year had approved an amendment to the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Act 1974, which empowered the agency to act against anyone who intends to spread “rumours and false information against state institutions” on social media.

After the reports of the amendment, Interior Minister Rana Sanaullah had told reporters in parliament that if the bill was against the freedom of expression then “we won’t pass it and won’t be with it.”

No such legislation has taken place since then.

Govt readies new law proposing five-year jail terms for defamation of army, judiciary

Draft bill to be sent to federal cabinet for approval before it lands in parliament; PML-N's Shahid Khaqan Abbasi lends support.

www.dawn.com

Go F yourself Wardi alaay paynchodo.

 

[Goenitz]

Anyway, if the establishment is involved in politics, will it be defamation/insult of army duties or a stain on army?

What if a general accepts that?