32 kidnapped Turkish drivers released in Iraq

[anHuman]

ISIS -Turkey relationship is just a hoax.... everybody can accuse us of anything... either prove it or zip it.

So , you except me to show you some image from a document with signatures of both Erdogan and Al Baghdadi !?

there is natural fellow of events in Syria and Iraq , and every open minded people can undersand it ...

this is fact that both KSA and Turkiye are OK with ISIS till they don't get close to them and harm their interests ( in action not in words ) ; there is some sign that Erdogan is supporting indepentce Kurdistan in north of Iraq , and there is fact that ISIS didn't lunch any meaningful attack to Kurds ,
and this is fact that Barezani is using this chaos to make his Kurdistan state and he even used this opportunity to seize some arab majority city of Iraq ( Kirkuk ) .
and ...

just arrange the piece of this puzzle and you will see the picture ...

 

[Informant]

So , you except me to show you some image from a document width signature of both Erdogan and Al Baghdadi !?

there is natural fellow of events in Syria and Iraq , and every open minded people can undersand it ...

this is fact that both KSA and Turkiye are OK with ISIS till they don't get close to them and harm their interests ( in action not in words ) ; there is some sign that Erdogan is supporting indepentce Kurdistan in north of Iraq , and there is fact that ISIS didn't lunch any meaningful attack to Kurds ,
and this is fact that Barezani is using this chaos to make his Kurdistan state and he even used this opportunity to seize some arab majority city of Iraq ( Kirkuk ) .
and ...

just arrange the piece of this puzzle and you will see the picture ...

Picture that you seem to be dreamin'

 

[-SINAN-]

So , you except me to show you some image from a document width signature of both Erdogan and Al Baghdadi !?

So you are going to forge one or gonna show an already forged one.... ?

I expect nothing from you. There is tons of baseless accusations in the media...but not a single evidence....

there is natural fellow of events in Syria and Iraq , and every open minded people can undersand it ...

this is fact that both KSA and Turkiye are OK with ISIS till they don't get close to them and harm their interests ( in action not in words ) ; there is some sign that Erdogan is supporting indepentce Kurdistan in north of Iraq , and there is fact that ISIS didn't lunch any meaningful attack to Kurds ,
and this is fact that Barezani is using this chaos to make his Kurdistan state and he even used this opportunity to seize some arab majority city of Iraq ( Kirkuk ) .
and ...

just arrange the piece of this puzzle and you will see the picture ...

ISIS presence already hurt our economy and and continue to hurt everyday. So it's not for our interest.

I fail to understand how an independent Kurdish state will benefit us.

Why would ISIS want to attack Kurds they are already fighting against Central government why open up another front ?

Say you what... there was leaked meeting attended by top Turkish officials a few months ago, listen to that tapes. That you'll understand that our Officials are seeeing ISIS as a threat.

 

[usernameless]

this is fact that both KSA and Turkiye are OK with ISIS till they don't get close to them and harm their interests

Is it like the reports from the Turkish media that say Iran is indirectly supporting pkk against Turkey, as long as pkk/pjak doesnt harm Iran?

 

[Serpentine]

Is it like the reports from the Turkish media that say Iran is indirectly supporting pkk against Turkey, as long as pkk/pjak doesnt harm Iran?

Actually none of these 2 scenarios are proved with actual evidence, neither Turkish support for ISIS or Iran's support for PKK. There are random news around about both, but nothing real.

 

[1000]

Actually none of these 2 scenarios are proved with actual evidence, neither Turkish support for ISIS or Iran's support for PKK. There are random news around about both, but nothing real.

is it true IRGC forces have entered North Iraq, KRG controlled

 

[Serpentine]

is it true IRGC forces have entered North Iraq, KRG controlled

Haven't heard anything about that, and it's unlikely. Clearly we don't like Barzani and his puppets, but we won't alienate them either since there is economic relations between KRG and Iran.
Or did you mean entering with their agreement? Still I don't think that's happening.

 

[xenon54 out]

How in the world is Isis benefitting Turkish interests?
So far they was only threatening us, kidnapping our people, hurting our economy, doing terrorist attacks in Turkey, who cares what other say in Iranian forums, these are probably the same guys who are posting trash under biased, zero credibility, Press TV articles.

 

[Chronos]

How in the world is Isis benefitting Turkish interests?
So far they was only threatening us, kidnapping our people, hurting our economy, doing terrorist attacks in Turkey, who cares what other say in Iranian forums, these are probably the same guys who are posting trash under biased, zero credibility, Press TV articles.

ISIS doesn't even benefit Saudi Arabia, as they have named Turkey and Saudis as traitors to the cause.

But it seems Turkey will have a buffer state in Kurdistan from ISIS

 

[anHuman]

Picture that you seem to be dreamin'[/qu

So you are going to forge one or gonna show an already forged one.... ?

I expect nothing from you. There is tons of baseless accusations in the media...but not a single evidence....



ISIS presence already hurt our economy and and continue to hurt everyday. So it's not for our interest.

I fail to understand how an independent Kurdish state will benefit us.

Why would ISIS want to attack Kurds they are already fighting against Central government why open up another front ?

Say you what... there was leaked meeting attended by top Turkish officials a few months ago, listen to that tapes. That you'll understand that our Officials are seeeing ISIS as a threat.

that why its so strange ....
sooner or later ISIS will come for you and then bye bye to tourism in turkey but Erdogan still arm these thugs in Syria and supporting them .... ( as you know most of this Jihadi thugs sworn loyalty to AlBaghdadi in Syria and other Jihadi group - Al Nusrah - is official branch of Al Qaedah )

and Erdogan with his oil contract with Barezani and with this , he is strengthen him and giving him money to declare his independent Kurdistan ....

 

[anHuman]

Is it like the reports from the Turkish media that say Iran is indirectly supporting pkk against Turkey, as long as pkk/pjak doesnt harm Iran?

after Iran-Iraq war , Iran just didn't mind to lets pkk has some activity in Iran with a condition to not harm Iran ( in fact that we didn't want another conflict , a poor decision taken by Rafsanjani and Khatami governments that make another security thread for us in some years later - Pjak ) .... but in Ahmadi Nejad era , Iran decide to solve this problem and IRIGC kick them out from Iran completely ...

so these aren't baseless news , just like our news that saying turkey and Barezani help Mossad in recruit terrorists that killed our scientists , well in fact it not just some news , the arrested terrorists said it ...

 

[-SINAN-]

that why its so strange ....
sooner or later ISIS will come for you and then bye bye to tourism in turkey but Erdogan still arm these thugs in Syria and supporting them .... ( as you know most of this Jihadi thugs sworn loyalty to AlBaghdadi in Syria and other Jihadi group - Al Nusrah - is official branch of Al Qaedah )
and Erdogan with his oil contract with Barezani and with this , he is strengthen him and giving him money to declare his independent Kurdistan

Well buddy, what you are saying is not making sense. You are suggesting that we are working for our own loss.

Again. We are not arming ISIS and not trying to establish a Kurdistan..

 

[anHuman]

Well buddy, what you are saying is not making sense. You are suggesting that we are working for our own loss.

Again. We are not arming ISIS and not trying to establish a Kurdistan..

this is your downfall , all of your actions are just strengthen ISIS and Barezani but you think you are super smart ... you are free believe it or not but you are acting as pawn in this game , the player ( western Block , include USA , Israel and MI6 ) won't mind sacrifice a pawn to win the game ....

you had good economical relationship with Syria but you lead Syria to anarchy by helping some groups that clearly are not your friend , Now Syria is going to become another Afghanisan ( no , it is worse than Afghanistan and Taliban !! ) and now you are just helping Barezani and Erdogan openly trying to weaken Iraq's central government more than before ...

if things go in this way , Barezani will create his dreamed kurdistan and then Syrian kurds will join them and then you have to deal with a Afghanistan like state in south and a rootless state that claiming your land and will support armed kurd group that has USA and Israel support as well ....

you are not Iran , just some random bombing can damage your tourism and it will hurt other part of your economics as well ...

 

[-SINAN-]

this is your downfall , all of your action is strengthen ISIS and Barezani but you think you are super smart ... you are free believe it or not but you are acting as pawn in this game , the player ( western Block , include USA , Israel and MI6 ) will don't mind sacrifice a pawn to win the game ....

you had good economical relationship with Syria but you turned it to a chaos with some groups that cleary are not your friend and your lead Syria to become another Afghanisan ( no , it is worse than Afghanistan and Taliban !! ) and now you are just helping Barezani and Erdogan openly trying to weaken Iraq's central government more than before ...

if things go in this way , Barezani will create his dreamed kurdistan and then syrian kurds will join them and then you have to deal with a Afghanistan like state in south and a rootless state that claiming your land and will support armed kurd group that has USA and Israel support ....

you are not Iran , just some random bombing can damage your tourism and it will hurt other part of your economics ...

A far fetched quess.... we shall see what happens.

 

[usernameless]

that why its so strange ....
sooner or later ISIS will come for you and then bye bye to tourism in turkey but Erdogan still arm these thugs in Syria and supporting them .... ( as you know most of this Jihadi thugs sworn loyalty to AlBaghdadi in Syria and other Jihadi group - Al Nusrah - is official branch of Al Qaedah )

and Erdogan with his oil contract with Barezani and with this , he is strengthen him and giving him money to declare his independent Kurdistan ....

Turkey has no relationship with isil. see Xenon's last post, i am, actually all Turkish members, are tired of repeating ourselves. Turkey only supported moderate FSA in Syria. Sure, radicals may have infiltrated FSA too later on, but Turkey essentially supports moderate FSA, not barbaric midgets who declare was in the form of jihad on every moving thing.
As for the rest of your rant, Iran, just like the Arabs and Israel are F'ing this region up for their own benefits, but of course it's easier to point only your finger at Turkey, Arabs and Israel.