27 Feb 19: PAF shot down two Indian aircrafts inside Pakistani airspace: DG ISPR

[Suriya]

Do you have any evidence about SU-30MKI ? There is nothing in open source media . do you have any evidence.

No there is zilch available on Internet or anyone on the forum. Only thing available is an exploded AMRAAM in the hands of Indians. The question is why its proximity fused has gone off???

How many i've to give video of how AMRAAM debris was found went it self exploded and landed on the ground hurting a man and damaging houses near by.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Do u know how satellite imagery works? It's not like satellites are recording 4K video of every second on every part of the globe. Satellites periodically take pictures of different parts of earth from time to time...therefore u can potentially see things that happen over long term...
...an example would be US being able to see China building artificial islands in South China Sea.

that specefic places are roughly in hundreds of km size and if you consider several passes (each passess take 60-90 min ) there must be something if its available for mig 21 it must be available for su-30 specially if you consider the fact you can't hide an aircraft crash in minutes ,it would have built a fire considering the amount of fuel a SU-30 can carry and there are far more than just one satellite

And last but not least...dbc here has said something along those lines too...that a Su30 MKI was hit...as per some reports(I provided u a link to his post).

the post provided no proof

AMRAAM is a potent and proven weapon. Additionally AMRAAM wreckage was shown by IAF...I don't know of any examples where it explodes without having hit the target. So it must've hit something to have exploded like that.

amraam have self destruct capabilities and at least spain had to use that mechanism once when they accidentally fired a missile

 

[Suriya]

regardless the summary PROVEN HARD FACTS of feb FIASCO ARE

1. India missed its targets,
2. shot down its own mi17,
3. its airforce was openly challenged and its sites were bombed,
4. lost ATLEAST 1 jet was shotdown and had a POW paraded..

a total and shameful defeat

India didn't miss its targets, that's why the area of cordoned off and off limit for any civil lain for months.
Ammunition used is supposed obliterate the building.

Reuters report

No access to Pakistan religious school that India says it bombed

https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...chool-that-india-says-it-bombed-idINKCN1QO26W

2. on 26th IAF faced ZERO challenges from PAF while targeting Balakot.
on 27th PAF had to break the Rules of Engagement in peace time an fire AMRAAM at IAF jet who flying inside Indian airspace to prevent them challenging PAF's ground attack
sorties

 

[maverick1977]

that specefic places are roughly in hundreds of km size and if you consider several passes (each passess take 60-90 min ) there must be something if its available for mig 21 it must be available for su-30 specially if you consider the fact you can't hide an aircraft crash in minutes ,it would have built a fire considering the amount of fuel a SU-30 can carry and there are far more than just one satellite


the post provided no proof


amraam have self destruct capabilities and at least spain had to use that mechanism once when they accidentally fired a missile

your considerable plume at the crash aite is quite a plausible reason. for example sake, three other reasons can be.. it landed at the airport, damaged, crahsed in inhabitant valley hitting side of a mountain, most likely forested .. thirdly might have jestionned fuel and had crashed while attempted to land .. but for aure it disnt break in mid air, that wouldve been quite open for folks to see ..

 

[Ultima Thule]

India didn't miss its targets, that's why the area of cordoned off and off limit for any civil lain for months.
Ammunition used is supposed obliterate the building.

Reuters report

No access to Pakistan religious school that India says it bombed

https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...chool-that-india-says-it-bombed-idINKCN1QO26W

2. on 26th IAF faced ZERO challenges from PAF while targeting Balakot.
on 27th PAF had to break the Rules of Engagement in peace time an fire AMRAAM at IAF jet who flying inside Indian airspace to prevent them challenging PAF's ground attack
sorties

Very next day BBC reporter went the ground zero and router also provide satellite images that's proves that you miss the targets these pictures already posted in this thread

 

[Suriya]

Very next day BBC reporter went the ground zero and router also provide satellite images that's proves that you miss the targets these pictures already posted in this thread

MARCH 7, 2019 / 11:00 PM / Reuters report

No access to Pakistan religious school that India says it bombed

https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...chool-that-india-says-it-bombed-idINKCN1QO26W

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Did India claimed you enter their airspace

I think they did

 

[Ultima Thule]

MARCH 7, 2019 / 11:00 PM / Reuters report

No access to Pakistan religious school that India says it bombed

https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...chool-that-india-says-it-bombed-idINKCN1QO26W

Router also reported you miss the target with proofs so???

 

[notorious_eagle]

MARCH 7, 2019 / 11:00 PM / Reuters report

No access to Pakistan religious school that India says it bombed

https://in.reuters.com/article/indi...chool-that-india-says-it-bombed-idINKCN1QO26W

You forgot the other Reuters report little buddy

Satellite images show buildings still standing at Indian bombing site
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...standing-at-indian-bombing-site-idUSKCN1QN00V

If you personally ask my opinion, it was a deliberate miss by IAF to give face to Pakistan and satisfy the domestic audience.

amraam have self destruct capabilities and at least spain had to use that mechanism once when they accidentally fired a missile

If you look at the AMRAAM that the IAF showed, its fuze was off. The fuze for an AMRAAM only goes off if it hits an aerial target.

 

[Ultima Thule]

You forgot the other Reuters report little buddy

Satellite images show buildings still standing at Indian bombing site
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...standing-at-indian-bombing-site-idUSKCN1QN00V

If you personally ask my opinion, it was a deliberate miss by IAF to give face to Pakistan and satisfy the domestic audience.



If you look at the AMRAAM that the IAF showed, its fuze was off. The fuze for an AMRAAM only goes off if it hits an aerial target.

It useless sir to convince a guy like @Suriya he insists his fake conspiracy theories again just like he is bringing missing R-73 theories sir

 

[PakFactor]

It useless sir to convince a guy like @Suriya he insists his fake conspiracy theories again just like he is bringing missing R-73 theories sir

Their just butt hurt they’ve been made a joke.

 

[Ultima Thule]

You forgot the other Reuters report little buddy

Satellite images show buildings still standing at Indian bombing site
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...standing-at-indian-bombing-site-idUSKCN1QN00V

And then they claim for this they USE penetration warheads so structure remains intact and in other thread they posted the images from IAF that show 3 holes on the roof top of the building by @kongn so i ask him how its possible that 3 900 kg bombs penetrate the structure and building remains intact you know sir what his answers he says that only 70 -80 kg these bombs have to kill the occupants inside so when i asked where rest of explosives goes than @kongn has no answers for me

 

[Cookie Monster]

that specefic places are roughly in hundreds of km size and if you consider several passes (each passess take 60-90 min ) there must be something if its available for mig 21 it must be available for su-30 specially if you consider the fact you can't hide an aircraft crash in minutes ,it would have built a fire considering the amount of fuel a SU-30 can carry and there are far more than just one satellite

You need to look into satellites and how they work.

First not all satellites sent into space are used for imaging earth.

Then there's the orbit...the satellites that are used for imaging are usually in LEO(low earth orbit...about 500km above)...these satellites CANNOT continuously map the same exact spot...since they are in orbit and moving very fast around the earth. A satellite in a geosynchronous orbit at about 42000km can match the same rotation as the earth and therefore continuously have its camera pointed in one spot...however to image something from that distance...the sensors on such a satellite would have to be huge and very high tech.

In conclusion...what u r asking for...
...satellite pictures of an event like an aircraft crash landing...u should build a time machine and go thousands of years into the future to have such a capability where one can request such a thing as if it was a CCTV footage.

 

[notorious_eagle]

And then they claim for this they USE penetration warheads so structure remains intact and in other thread they posted the images from IAF that show 3 holes on the roof top of the building by @kongn so i ask him how its possible that 3 900 kg bombs penetrate the structure and building remains intact you know sir what his answers he says that only 70 -80 kg these bombs have to kill the occupants inside so when i asked where rest of explosives goes than @kongn has no answers for me

To be honest i don't blame them. If you look at their media and their politicians, the Indian masses were brainwashed into thinking that a clash between India and Pakistan would result in complete domination of Pakistan. There is a reason why they are so obsessed with Israel is because the conditioning off the masses was that India would deliver a result equivalent to what Israel delivers to its opponents, which is complete domination from every angle. This is why egos have been hurt among our Indian friends because they were expecting a very easy victory over Pakistan.

Go back a few years and look at some of the threads by Indian members. How SU30MKI is the greatest fighter aircraft in the world and only 10 SU30MKI's are enough to complete the destruction of PAF. Part of the reason why the SU30MKI was so hyped up is because it absolutely dominated USAF F15's and F16's during exercises against the USAF. Little did they know, this was on purpose by the USAF. USAF pitted their rookies against the IAF veteran pilots and claimed that they will be mimicking PAF's tactics. But this was just a clever ploy by USAF to study IAF's tactics much more closely.

 

[Suriya]

Their just butt hurt they’ve been made a joke.

Show me any sign of right side R-73 at the crash site, then i'll accept it otherwise we have all the missile of Mig 21 is a hollow claim.