22 top airforces (based on plane quality and quantity).

[500]

My latest result was here:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...sed-plane-quality-quantity-9.html#post3571892
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...ed-plane-quality-quantity-10.html#post3968581

Old Pakistan rank

50 JF-17
45 F-16A/B
18 F-16C block 52+
75 Mirage III
83 Mirage V
144 F-7
AEW&C: 4 Erieye, 2 ZDK-03

224/219 = 667

New Pakistan rank:

100 JF-17
40 F-16A/B
14 F-16A/B OCU
18 F-16C block 52+
75 Mirage III
83 Mirage V
144 F-7
AEW&C: 3 Erieye, 4 ZDK-03

276.4/267 = 820

Korea new (old)

60 F-15K
169 F-16C/D
68 (84) F-4E
60 (0) FA-50 [FA-50 = 0.6/0.6]
110 (170) F-5E
AEW&C: 4 (2) Boeing 737

381.2/386.6=1149

India new (old)

170 (146) Su-30MKI
51 (45) Mirage 2000
66 (68) MiG-29
88 MiG-27ML
264 (152) MiG-21Bis
130 (120) Jaguar
AEW&C: 3 Phalcon
tanker: 7 IL-78MKI

501/575 = 1577

Turkey

168 F-16C
76 F-16C 50
68 F-16 52+
54 F-4 2020
24 F-5
4 Boeing 737 AWACS
10 KC-135

410.4/449.2 = 1270

we do have 312 F-16s, 144 of them are block 50/52+, the rest are block 40. Other than that we retired some phantoms. Currently we have 54 phantoms in service. 4 peace eagle awacs, 10 KC-135 air refuelling, and the current air transportation fleet has 92 aircraft, since from this december, we'll start to recieve A400Ms, and only one squadron of F-5s are active (24 plane). can you update TURAF please

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...-plane-quality-quantity-14.html#ixzz2b4JN0iwv

I did not update other countries though.

The Final Results:

1) USA - 12690
2) Russia - 3639
3) China - 3159
4) India - 1577
5) S. Arabia - 1425
6) Israel - 1420
7) Turkey - 1270
8) Japan - 1254
9) Korea - 1149
10) Taiwan - 982
11) France - 883
12) UK - 874
13) Egypt - 856
14) Pakistan - 820
15) Greece - 746
16) Germany - 702
17) UAE - 559
18) Singapore - 519
19) Sweden - 512
20) Italy - 510
21) Spain - 489
22) Australia - 395
23) Canada - 356

 

[Frogman]

@500

Have you taken into account aircraft lost since delivery or not?

 

[500]

@500

Have you taken into account aircraft lost since delivery or not?

Just using most recent wiki numbers.

 

[Neptune]

@500

upon my special research on our vipers,

we do have 312 F-16s, 144 of them are block 50/52+, the rest are block 40. Other than that we retired some phantoms. Currently we have 54 phantoms in service. 4 peace eagle awacs, 10 KC-135 air refuelling, and the current air transportation fleet has 92 aircraft, since from this december, we'll start to recieve A400Ms, and only one squadron of F-5s are active (24 plane). can you update TURAF please

 

[flamer84]

@500 First of all congrats for the superb work you've done.Second,can you take into account the kind of ammunition(missiles) is used by different air forces? For example,as far as i know the Egyptian air force lacks BVR capability,that's a huge draw back.

 

[livingdead]

thanks @500 for all the hard work.

 

[Frogman]

@500 First of all congrats for the superb work you've done.Second,can you take into account the kind of ammunition(missiles) is used by different air forces? For example,as far as i know the Egyptian air force lacks BVR capability,that's a huge draw back.

Egyptian F-16's are armed with AIM-7's (BVR missiles) but we are unable to request the restricted AIM-120 as we haven't signed CISMOA. So we do have BVR capability however we are restricted from long range missiles (on the F-16's) such as the AIM-120.

 

[500]

Thanks guys.

@500

upon my special research on our vipers,

we do have 312 F-16s, 144 of them are block 50/52+, the rest are block 40. Other than that we retired some phantoms. Currently we have 54 phantoms in service. 4 peace eagle awacs, 10 KC-135 air refuelling, and the current air transportation fleet has 92 aircraft, since from this december, we'll start to recieve A400Ms, and only one squadron of F-5s are active (24 plane). can you update TURAF please

I updated in #196

 

[Sliver]

@500 I must say your method is definitely much better than the fan boy analysis. Would you mind sharing the excel sheet online somewhere?

What I want to do is create a time chart of the growth or decline of power and see if and where:
china will meet USA
Pak will meet India
India will meet China

those kinds of conclusions (like hans rosling's data on ted)

 

[flamer84]

Egyptian F-16's are armed with AIM-7's (BVR missiles) but we are unable to request the restricted AIM-120 as we haven't signed CISMOA. So we do have BVR capability however we are restricted from long range missiles (on the F-16's) such as the AIM-120.

Thanks for the info,I didn't know that,still,you have to admit that the lack of long range missiles puts a dent in your capabilities as opposed to others,for example,in this situation,an egyptian F16 Block 50+ can't be compared to his turkish counterpart.

 

[kaykay]

@500 I doubt that PAF has 70+ F16s and 100 JF-17s. I guess the actual number would be 63 F-16s and 50-60 JF-17s. Hope other Pakistani friends would correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Frogman]

Thanks for the info,I didn't know that,still,you have to admit that the lack of long range missiles puts a dent in your capabilities as opposed to others,for example,in this situation,an egyptian F16 Block 50+ can't be compared to his turkish counterpart.

Yes. But the Egyptian military sees signing CISMOA as a threat to Egypt's national security and so refuses to sign it. Whether signing this contract is worth it just for long range missiles is up to the military and so far it sees that this contract is too much of a threat on our national security and isn't worth the AIM-120. Egyptian F-16's are identical to any others (except ours can carry Harpoons) we just lack the missile to make it (truly) effective in today's BVR combat scenarios. What I'm sure of though is that if any aircraft is stuck with an Egyptian F-16 in WVR its going to have big problems as training is primarily focused on bugging out of BVR scenarios and sucking the enemy into WVR.

 

[500]

@500 I must say your method is definitely much better than the fan boy analysis. Would you mind sharing the excel sheet online somewhere?

What I want to do is create a time chart of the growth or decline of power and see if and where:
china will meet USA
Pak will meet India
India will meet China

those kinds of conclusions (like hans rosling's data on ted)

Here is Excel file:

Download top 23.xls from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

There is some mish mash of old and new data. But you can play with it changing data easily.

 

[500]

I updated data for all 23 airforces:

1) USA - 13601
2) Russia - 3610
3) China - 3077
4) India - 1577
5) Israel - 1407
6) Japan - 1227
7) Korea - 1198
8) Turkey - 1189
9) S. Arabia - 1160
10) Taiwan - 976
11) France - 955
12) Egypt - 897
13) UK - 890
14) Pakistan - 836
15) Greece - 738
16) Germany - 662
17) UAE - 559
18) Italy - 557
19) Singapore - 521
20) Spain - 502
21) Australia - 460
22) Sweden - 431
23) Canada - 356

Excel file for download:

Download top 23.xls from Sendspace.com - send big files the easy way

Note. I changed data for TuAF 240 F-16C + 30 F-16C block 50+. Neptunes data is not reasonable. On the other hand I counted Turkish F-16C as 1.1 vs air to air and 1.05 vs. air to ground, because they were upgraded compare to regular F-16C.

Last Block 50+ F-16 delivered by TAI as part of Peace Onyx IV Program :: F-16.net

 

[Neptune]

@500 Sorry but there are 12 viper squadrons and 1 viper squadron for training check f-16.net. And each of TURAF's sq's consist by 24 aircraft. That makes 312. Hope that helps...