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2014 Elections - Grave Implications for India
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Cirr look at your PM. He siphoned billions,
US$1 billion embezzled from Chinese public housing fund: media | Egypt Independent
US$1 billion embezzled from Chinese public housing fund: media | Egypt Independent
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But the sad thing about that is, you still won't get to rule the mainland.
You will still be confined to the tiny island till communists rule the mainland.
7 Reasons why the UPA may win in 2014 - Rediff.com India News
7 Reasons why the UPA may win in 2014
Last updated on: August 27, 2013 16:46 IST
By speaking out against Manmohan Singh, by constantly bashing the UPA/Congress, Narendra Modi by 2014 will be like a television show in replay mode.
In winning the intra-BJP battle, he runs losing the war with the UPA, feels Amberish K Diwanji.
Congress supporters in Ahmedabad.It is almost blasphemous to say this, but there may be some truth in what Sonia Gandhi boasted about a few days ago: That the UPA will return to power in 2014.
Every quantifiable indicator tells us that the UPA doesn't deserve a third term. In fact, many would say it didn't deserve a second term, but that is another story.
Here are some reasons why this may just happen.
1. As of now, the rupee and the economy are racing against each other to see who hits rock bottom first. There is a general mood of despair in the air. But general moods are poor indicators of voting patterns.
The mood 2004 was one of 'India Shining'. Today we know that India then was truly shining, and every indicator was that the BJP deserved to win, but the party's mishandling of Gujarat and its arrogance saw it kicked out.
This should give the Congress/UPA hope that there exist segments that are never influenced by sentiments and pre-poll opinions.
2. The Congress continues to appeal to the largest segment of Indians, be it Muslims, Dalits, Adivasis, and minorities of all hues. The last bit is usually under-rated.
For instance, north Indians in Mumbai will back the Congress because they fear the BJP ally, the Shiv Sena and its Mumbai for Marathis agenda. The same north Indian in his village in UP or Bihar may never vote for the Congress there, but in Mumbai his bigger concern is his safety.
3. Moving closer to April 2014, the economic situation might improve to make August 2013 look distant. So far the monsoons have been fantastic, the US economy appears to have bottomed out, and for all one knows the economic rebound is just months away.
With things looking up, the middle-class, the UPA's most trenchant critic at present, might just be willing to forgive and forget. This is the segment whose 'sentiments' currently are anti-Congress, and this might change.
Also, while they may not necessarily vote for the Congress, the strong anti-Congress, pro-BJP sentiment will abate.
4. Sharad Pawar is an astute observer of politics. His statement that Narendra Modi may have peaked too early may be bang on. May 2014 is more than eight months away; in politics that is a lifetime.
By speaking out against Manmohan Singh, by constantly bashing the UPA/Congress, Modi by 2014 will look and sound like a television show in replay mode.
To be fair, Modi is also a shrewd politician and is no doubt aware that he runs the risk of peaking very early, but as of now he has little choice.
Given his foes within the BJP, he has to stamp his authority on the party as soon as he can. But in winning the intra-BJP battle, he runs losing the war with the UPA. Modi is battling too many foes.
5. The Ayodhya fiasco has apparently made the BJP and the Samajwadi Party happy, with both believing they will gain from Hindu and Muslim votes respectively. But is it so simple?
Can yatras that remind us of the late 1980s and early 1990s work in India today? A nervous Muslim population might prefer backing the Congress if only to give it the numbers in the Lok Sabha to keep the BJP out.
And for millions of Hindus, who have happily moved on to the development bandwagon, a throwback to the yatras of the 1990s is hardly appealing.
Moreover, the blatant communal appeal by the BJP and the Samajwadi Party to their respective supporters might just show the Congress as the party in shining secular light.
In India, religious concerns trumps economic fears. Always
6. The Congress's food security bill might be a game-changer. Sure it will strain the economy, but a year before elections, it sends a strong message to the poor about a party that cares for the poor.
Every criticism of the food security bill gives the message that if the rich are against it, it must be right.
7. Rahul Gandhi boasted the other day that if India were a computer, the Congress is the default option. Millions may detest this statement, but it is, alas, so true.
Like so many computer programmes, the default setting is full of bugs and how we wish we had a better option, but after tinkering here and there and finding the computer settings even more complicated, we just click on the 'Restore Default Settings' button.
It is bad, but the alternative options are worse.
7 Reasons why the UPA may win in 2014
Last updated on: August 27, 2013 16:46 IST
By speaking out against Manmohan Singh, by constantly bashing the UPA/Congress, Narendra Modi by 2014 will be like a television show in replay mode.
In winning the intra-BJP battle, he runs losing the war with the UPA, feels Amberish K Diwanji.
Congress supporters in Ahmedabad.It is almost blasphemous to say this, but there may be some truth in what Sonia Gandhi boasted about a few days ago: That the UPA will return to power in 2014.
Every quantifiable indicator tells us that the UPA doesn't deserve a third term. In fact, many would say it didn't deserve a second term, but that is another story.
Here are some reasons why this may just happen.
1. As of now, the rupee and the economy are racing against each other to see who hits rock bottom first. There is a general mood of despair in the air. But general moods are poor indicators of voting patterns.
The mood 2004 was one of 'India Shining'. Today we know that India then was truly shining, and every indicator was that the BJP deserved to win, but the party's mishandling of Gujarat and its arrogance saw it kicked out.
This should give the Congress/UPA hope that there exist segments that are never influenced by sentiments and pre-poll opinions.
2. The Congress continues to appeal to the largest segment of Indians, be it Muslims, Dalits, Adivasis, and minorities of all hues. The last bit is usually under-rated.
For instance, north Indians in Mumbai will back the Congress because they fear the BJP ally, the Shiv Sena and its Mumbai for Marathis agenda. The same north Indian in his village in UP or Bihar may never vote for the Congress there, but in Mumbai his bigger concern is his safety.
3. Moving closer to April 2014, the economic situation might improve to make August 2013 look distant. So far the monsoons have been fantastic, the US economy appears to have bottomed out, and for all one knows the economic rebound is just months away.
With things looking up, the middle-class, the UPA's most trenchant critic at present, might just be willing to forgive and forget. This is the segment whose 'sentiments' currently are anti-Congress, and this might change.
Also, while they may not necessarily vote for the Congress, the strong anti-Congress, pro-BJP sentiment will abate.
4. Sharad Pawar is an astute observer of politics. His statement that Narendra Modi may have peaked too early may be bang on. May 2014 is more than eight months away; in politics that is a lifetime.
By speaking out against Manmohan Singh, by constantly bashing the UPA/Congress, Modi by 2014 will look and sound like a television show in replay mode.
To be fair, Modi is also a shrewd politician and is no doubt aware that he runs the risk of peaking very early, but as of now he has little choice.
Given his foes within the BJP, he has to stamp his authority on the party as soon as he can. But in winning the intra-BJP battle, he runs losing the war with the UPA. Modi is battling too many foes.
5. The Ayodhya fiasco has apparently made the BJP and the Samajwadi Party happy, with both believing they will gain from Hindu and Muslim votes respectively. But is it so simple?
Can yatras that remind us of the late 1980s and early 1990s work in India today? A nervous Muslim population might prefer backing the Congress if only to give it the numbers in the Lok Sabha to keep the BJP out.
And for millions of Hindus, who have happily moved on to the development bandwagon, a throwback to the yatras of the 1990s is hardly appealing.
Moreover, the blatant communal appeal by the BJP and the Samajwadi Party to their respective supporters might just show the Congress as the party in shining secular light.
In India, religious concerns trumps economic fears. Always
6. The Congress's food security bill might be a game-changer. Sure it will strain the economy, but a year before elections, it sends a strong message to the poor about a party that cares for the poor.
Every criticism of the food security bill gives the message that if the rich are against it, it must be right.
7. Rahul Gandhi boasted the other day that if India were a computer, the Congress is the default option. Millions may detest this statement, but it is, alas, so true.
Like so many computer programmes, the default setting is full of bugs and how we wish we had a better option, but after tinkering here and there and finding the computer settings even more complicated, we just click on the 'Restore Default Settings' button.
It is bad, but the alternative options are worse.
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Sonia Gandhi back in driver's seat .....
Will UPA III bandwagon reach back to New Delhi trampling over Indian Economy as driven by Sonia Gandhi ...
Sonia Gandhi is back in the driver's seat - Rediff.com News
Will UPA III bandwagon reach back to New Delhi trampling over Indian Economy as driven by Sonia Gandhi ...
Sonia Gandhi is back in the driver's seat - Rediff.com News
Real voter who last time voted in masses for UPA ...is not bothered by ground realities ....
They are not affected by media blitzkriegs....
They do not think like you and me !
We all know that when BJP -NDA launched " India Shining " campaign in 2004....It was indeed true
Yet it failed ! and UPA came back ...
I am afraid if something similar that happened in 2004 , 2009 should not be repeated in 2014 !
This time it's a question of survival of Indian economy ....
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wasn't the majority of voters in 2004 and 2009 from Urban area's , during those times people where deluded by terms like secular , radical Hindu BJP and all those classifications , i think things have changed ....i don't expect UPA to get too many votes ... The normal voters of today are far smarter than they were 5-10 years back
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How's quality of life in India for the common and the poor??Compare to 10 years ago??As a vast majority of Indian voters are poor and either illiterate or not educate enough to understand Economic growth or becoming progressive the deciding factor n this election would be quality of living!
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LET ME ENLIGHTEN U(PLS NO OFFENCE)
1)CONGRESS will not get more than 120 odd seats this time
2)But the problem is that all the surveys show that bjp itself will muster only like 160-170 seats
So who gains??
answer-------all the regional parties like sp,bsp,bjd,ljp,aiadmk,trinamool congress etc
implications??
1)all these parties are totally opposed to bjp and will join congress to form next govt
or
2)a third front govt with cobbling up of all these small parties will form like in 1996
or
3)ppl somehow become intelligent and vote for the bjp
somehow i feel the point 3 will not be fulfilled(unfortunately)
I would love to believe what you say ...and see it happen !
But we will know the reality only when results of next general elections will be out !
I do not want to see Congress or congress backed regime at the Centre again personally !!!
Somehow BJP is not working hard....they need to take issue of mis-governance and corruption of UPA to masses ....
I do not see that happening ....
I am really worried for future of India !
I am aghast to think of third front government at Centre which will only screw Indian economy further ....
Oh God ! no Mulayam Singh Yadav or Mayavati or Lalu Prasad Yadav ....please !!!
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@Indo-guy something doesn't feel right...how come everything go shitz within 1 month ...it was all nice and dandy ...we were all happily talking about the "India growth" story , and all of a sudden economy goes to shits and we blame govt. for last 9 years...
Dunno, something does not feel right ...
Dunno, something does not feel right ...
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Economy has not been doing well for more than last 5 years....
the CAD has been higher than safe limit of -2.5% for last 5 years ...( this is Man Mohan Singh's own benchmark ...which he let trampled for last 5 years ..and let burgeoned upto whopping -5% of GDP )
Current crisis is precipitated by flight of foreign investors after US & EU economy registered exceptional turn around ....
The government for past 5 years did nothing to correct the mismanagement of economy !!!
The reasons for governance failure are many ....
But we simply can't shun the fact that this economic mess happened with Economist PM at the helm for one full decade ....
He had adequate authority and enough time to do what could have been right .....but he didn't !!!
MMS has destroyed nation's economy along with his own reputation !!!
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