2 Iranian civilians killed in alleged cross-border attack

[FULL_METAL]

Disowned was Nachiketa.

Stop spewing BS man, he was captured by Pakistani Army and later returned to us, when the hell did we disown him?

BTW keep living in your own delusional bubble, India is evil, Iran is evil, Afghans are evil, Pakistanis are a bunch of harmless lil angels

 

[BATMAN]

Stop spewing BS man, he was captured by Pakistani Army and later returned to us, when the hell did we disown him?

BTW keep living in your own delusional bubble, India is evil, Iran is evil, Afghans are evil, Pakistanis are a bunch of harmless lil angels

We handed him over to UN.

 

[Big Tank]

According to Iraqi person, whom I interviewed told me there was an agreement between Iran and US to kill Muslims of Iraq. Hence all the killing and raping and death brigades etc.
Even the people who were hanging Saddam were from Mehdi Militia.
What you are telling is completely opposite story... anyhow, why US didn't hit back at Iran, when Irani proxies were killing US soldiers?

You always come up with weird fantasies. Now I don't know who this Iraqi was. Maybe Aymen Al Zawahri? Once a again you came lacking knowledge. In the Result of Mahdi Army Raids. Iranian Embassy in Iraq was raided by American Commandos. Officials were nabbed. Many Mahdi Army Commanders were killed.

 

[Falgrine]

According to Iraqi person, whom I interviewed told me there was an agreement between Iran and US to kill Muslims of Iraq. Hence all the killing and raping and death brigades etc.
Even the people who were hanging Saddam were from Mehdi Militia.
What you are telling is completely opposite story... anyhow, why US didn't hit back at Iran, when Irani proxies were killing US soldiers?

To be a fair judge you have to listen to the both sides. Yes Mahdi Army (MA) was no angels but perhaps you conveniently ignored that it was the mass scale slaughter of Shias that prompted the MA (or shall I say elements within then Iraq Interior ministry working with elements within MA) to begin the revenge attacks. AQ under Zarqawi had unleashed a barbaric campaign of massive bombings and other acts of terrorism which wete resulting in hundreds of deaths each day, mostly Shias. What broke the camel's back was the AQ bombing of a shrine belonging to two Shia Imams in Samara. Whether you believe in the Shia creed or not, you must remember that Shias hold their Imams (progeny of Prophet) in very high regards. Also, Samara is mostly a Sunni city and the idea of the Sunni complicity in that act of monstrosity must have crossed the minds of Shias. Be reminded that a large portion of the officer cadre of Saddam's army (mostly Sunni) later joined ISIS. So tell me, given all this, what could have held back the emotions of extremely angry Shia youth at that stage. These all eventually lead to the most regrettable cycle of innocent Sunni killings followed by even deadlier suicide bombings of Shia public places (Sunni insurgents needed no reason to carry those out but now they could boast to have one), beginning in the early/mid 2006.

I have and can never condone the killing of innocents of any sect/religion. Instead I am just pointing to some hard facts. Also about the MA, remember these were the same Sadr loyalists who tried helping the besieged Sunnis of Fallujah during 2004.

As for Saddam, he was a maniac or shall I say a Pharaoh of his time. His removal (not justifying) could be regarded as the only positive outcome of the OIF. Lets keep his story for another time.

I have noticed that you harbor a very peculiar form of Shia hatred. I could not care less as I believe in the freedom of thought and speech, and you like others are entitled to hold your opinions too. However, what you do not have is the right to create your own facts and propagate them as the gospel truth.

 

[Big Tank]

it's true.irani commados invaded iraq and iraq was basically fighting two front war.so much war crimes against sunnis in iraq by iranians and now they are behaving like they did nothing.because of this hate,isis was born.iranians are responsible for everything.

ISIS was made by CIA to topple Assad. Unless it went out of control. You are blaming Iranians like Indians blame Pakistan, even for a non-marital birth.

To be a fair judge you have to listen to the both sides. Yes Mahdi Army (MA) was no angels but perhaps you conveniently ignored that it was the mass scale slaughter of Shias that prompted the MA (or shall I say elements within then Iraq Interior ministry working with elements within MA) to begin the revenge attacks. AQ under Zarqawi had unleashed a barbaric campaign of massive bombings and other acts of terrorism that was resulting in hundreds of death each day, mostly Shias. What broke the camels back was the AQ bombing of a shrine belonging to two Shia Imams in Samara. Whether you believe in the Shia creed or not, you have to remember that Shias hold their Imams (progeny of Prophet) in very high regards. Also Samara is a Sunni city and the idea of the Sunni complicity in that act of monstrosity must have crossed the minds of Shias. Be reminded that a large portion of the officer cadre of Saddam's army (mostly Sunni) later joined ISIS. So tell me, given all this, what could have held back the emotions of extremely angry Shia youth at that stage. This eventually lead to the most regrettable cycle of killings, beginning in the early 2006. I have and can never condone the killing of innocents of any sect/religion. Instead I am just pointing to some hard facts.

About MA, remember it were the same Sadr's loyalist who tried helping the besieged Sunnis of Fallujah during 2004.

As for Saddam, he was a maniac or shall I say a Pharaoh of his time. His removal (not justifying) could be regarded as the only positive outcome of the OIF. Lets keep his story for another time.

I have noticed that you harbor a very peculiar form of Shia hatred. I could not care less as I believe in freedom of thought and speech. However, what you do not have is the right to create your own facts and propagate them as the gospel truth.

Brilliant Analysis.

After atrocities and massacres committed by Seddam and so-called Sunnis (Wahabis). It was nothing what Mahdi Army did. There is hell lot of propaganda regarding them by CIA and Saudis. Because they were effectively countering Americans since Seddam's Army was useless and Al Qaeda was just a drama.

 

[Falgrine]

Brilliant Analysis.

Many thanks.

I followed the Iraq invasion and its follow up very closely. The post was but a humble reflection over series of events according to my understanding.

 

[drmeson]

We do complain about Emaratis. And they're lot abused in Pakistan. But the fact is that we never officially complained to Iran the way your Generals speaking about my Country. Pakistan has the most population that likes Iran and in return we receive Mortars and threats by your IRGC. Being a Shia I am always attracted to Qum and Respect Iran, wishing for the best Relation between Pakistan and Iran. We simply denied Emaratis in case of any Combat or Military Support in Yemen in return they threatened us with intensive consequences.

Ref: https://www.dawn.com/news/1175284

no you don't complain to PG Arabs even though heavy money was funneled into pakistan from India via UAE ... your enemy is sitting in these fat sheikhdoms in persian gulf and is causing carnage in your country, show me official press release, statement, protest instead of who is getting abused on street. Your ex military commander is heading an anti iran/shia alliance in riyadh. UAE is major part of that alliance, has he complained to them ? has pak govt. complained or asked UAE govt. to track or stop your enemy intelligence from funneling terror money into your country ? Respond me on that and we will discuss it further.

 

[abrar khan]

This is the image of 8 Iranian border guards martyred by Jeysh ul Islam/adl group. They were 11 soldiers whom were barraged by terrorists, all martyred

Their names and identities :
ستوانسوم علی پودینه اهل زابل، متاهل و دارای سه فرزند است. این شهید بزرگوار جزو نیروهای کادری به شهادت رسیده است.

شهید ستوان سوم محسن دایی زاده یکی دیگر از نیروهای کادری مرزبانی است که روز گذشته در هنگ مرزی میرجاوه به شهادت رسید. وی اهل کرمان بوده و چند ماهی بیشتر از ازدواجش نمی گذرد.

شهید معین بیانی سرباز وظیفه اعزامی از بردسکن خراسان رضوی و مجرد بود.

شهید دیگر این حادثه سرباز مهدی امینی اهل جوین- سبزوار در استان خراسان رضوی بود.

صادق خدادادی سومین شهید سربازی است که در این حادثه به شهادت رسید. وی اهل سرخس در استان خراسان رضوی بود.

In an other attack 10 were martyred and 3 injured :
1- شهید جهانتیغ (کادر)
2- شهید پودینه (کادر)
3- شهید دایی زاده (کادر)
4- شهید کاظمی (وظیفه)
5- شهید امینی (وظیفه)
6- شهید مکاری (وظیفه)
Some of them were kidnapped by them. Still we are losing valuable soldiers.

َAn other 8 martyred soldiers :
1- ستوان دوم علی امام دادی
2- گروهبان یکم رضا حسینی
3- ستوان دوم مهران القراع
4- سرباز وظیفه فرزاد اسماعیلی زاده
5- سرباز وظیفه حسن بیاتی
6- سرباز وظیفه محمد احمدی
7- سرباز وظیفه عباس مهران دوز
8- سرباز وظیفه میلاد جر

Yet the 2 martyrs in that incident are unidentified.


Sardar bagheri is a man of his words. No neglect anymore, everyone of those terrorists will die asap.

We have same feeling for these men martyred (RIP). for these terrorist are responsible not Pakistan Govt neither innocent civilians of Panjgur who injured/martyred in Iranian mortar fired by your border guards. A better communication channel and efficient border management system at both side is required.

 

[Muhammed45]

We have same feeling for these men martyred (RIP). for these terrorist are responsible not Pakistan Govt neither innocent civilians of Panjgur who injured/martyred in Iranian mortar fired by your border guards. A better communication channel and efficient border management system at both side is required.

Me or IRGC or Iranian army will not tolerate damaging your civilians.
I know them well bud, it is impossible. If there were civilian casualties, i have no doubt , it wasn't during Iran's operations. Iranian mortar shells are targeting the havens of terrorists in desert areas.
The http://urdu.geo.tv was the main and first reporter of civilian casualty in Pakistan during Iranian mortar shell. No evidence, only empty claim.
Anyways i condemn any kinds of attack on your civilians. Yet i cannot believe it.

پنجگور ( نامہ نگار ) پنجگور ایرانی فورسز کی جانب سے سرحدی خلاف ورزیاں جاری ہیں ایرانی حدود سےپنجگور میںچیدگی بارڈر پر فائرنگ اور مارٹر حملے سے ایک شخص جاں بحق جبکہ گاڑی تباہہو گئی تفصیلات کے مطابق ایرانی فورسز کی جانب سے سرحدی خلاف ورزیاں جاری رہیں اتوار کی صبح چیدگی کے مقام پر ایرانی حدود سےایرانی فورسز کی جانب سے فائر کیاگیا مارٹر گولہ ایک گاڑی پر آگرا جس کے نتیجے میں گاڑی تباہ ہوئی اور اسی دوران ایرانی فورسز کی فائرنگ سے ایک پاکستانی شہری کریم جان ولد رستم جاں بحق ہوگیا ڈپٹی کمشنر پنجگور نے ایرانی فورسز کی فائرنگ سے پاکستانی شہری کی ہلاکت کی تصدیق کرتے ہوئے کہا کہ ایران فورسز کی جانب سے سرحدی خلاف ورزیوں پر ایران سے احتجاج کیا ہے اور پیر کے روز بارڈر جوائنٹ اجلاس کےدوران سرحدی خلاف ورزیوں کا معاملہ بھر پور انداز میں اٹھایا جائے گا ۔
http://search.jang.com.pk/print/321773-todays-print

ایرانی سرحد سے فائر کیا گیا مارٹر گولہ پنجگور میں آگرا،ایک شخص جاں بحق
27 مئی 2017 (10:45)

کوئٹہ(ڈیلی پاکستان آن لائن)ایران کی جانب ایک بار پھر سرحد کی خلاف ورزی کی گئی ہے اور ایرانی سرحد سے فائر کئے گئے مارٹر گولے سے ایک شخص جاں بحق ہوگیا ہے۔

سوشل میڈیا پر نوجوان کی لڑکی سے مسلسل فحش تصاویر کی فرمائش ، تنگ آکر بالآخر لڑکی نے ایسی تصویر بھیج دی کہ لڑکا خوشی کے مارے پاگل ہو گیا، ایسا کیا تھا؟ جان کر آپ کی بھی ہنسی نہ رُکے گی،خبر پڑھنے کیلئے کلک کریں

نجی ٹی وی چینل جیو نیوز کے مطابق ڈپٹی کمشنر پنجگور کا کہنا تھا کہ ایرانی سرحد سے فائر کیا گیا مارٹر گولہ ایک گاڑی پر آگرا جس سے ایک شخص جاں بحق ہوگیا جبکہ اس واقعے کے خلاف ایران سے بھرپور احتجاج کیا گیا ہے۔

ڈپٹی کمشنر کا مزید کہنا تھا کہ ایران کے ساتھ اس معاملے پر کل فلیگ میٹنگ بلائی ہے جس میں بھی ایران سے احتجاج کیا جائے گا۔یاد رہے کہ اس سے قبل بھی ایران کی طرف سے چاغی کے مقام پر سرحد کی خلاف ورزی کی گئی تھی۔


The provided image in this website is fake.

بلوچستان میں ایرانی مارٹر گولے گرنے سے ایک شخص ہلاک
Posted on December 19, 2016By Mohammad Waseemمقامی خبریں

Balochistan

بلوچستان (جیوڈیسک) پاکستان کے صوبہ بلوچستان کے ضلع پنجگور میں ایران کی جانب سے مبینہ طور پر فائر کیے جانے والے مارٹر کے گولے پھٹنے سے ایک شخص ہلاک اور ایک زخمی ہو گیا۔

پنجگور میں انتظامیہ کے ایک سینیئر اہلکار نے بتایا کہ ایران کی جانب سے مارٹر کے متعدد گولے فائر کیے گئے۔

مارٹر کے گولے ضلع کے سرحدی علاقے میں گر کر زوردار دھماکوں کے ساتھ پھٹ گئے۔ انتظامیہ کے اہلکار کے مطابق پاکستانی حدود میں گرنے والے ان مارٹر گولوں کی زد میں ایک گاڑی آ گئی۔

اہلکار کا کہنا تھا کہ گولہ پھٹنے سے نہ صرف گاڑی کو نقصان پہنچا بلکہ اس میں سوار ایک شخص ہلاک اور دوسرا زخمی ہو گیا۔

واضح رہے کہ ایران سے بلوچستان کے پانچ اضلاع کی سرحدیں ملتی ہیں جن میں چاغی، پنجگور، واشک، کیچ اورگوادر شامل ہیں۔

پنجگور کے علاوہ ان اضلاع میں سے بعض دیگر اضلاع کے سرحدی علاقوں میں بھی ایران کی جانب سے فائر کیے جانے والے گولے گرتے رہے ہیں۔

From UrduGeo news wesbsite.


See my friend? No evidence, just empty and repetitive claims. Pakistan's medias are awesome in this field, you know better than me.

 

[drmeson]

This is the image of 8 Iranian border guards martyred by Jeysh ul Islam/adl group. They were 11 soldiers whom were barraged by terrorists, all martyred

Their names and identities :
ستوانسوم علی پودینه اهل زابل، متاهل و دارای سه فرزند است. این شهید بزرگوار جزو نیروهای کادری به شهادت رسیده است.

شهید ستوان سوم محسن دایی زاده یکی دیگر از نیروهای کادری مرزبانی است که روز گذشته در هنگ مرزی میرجاوه به شهادت رسید. وی اهل کرمان بوده و چند ماهی بیشتر از ازدواجش نمی گذرد.

شهید معین بیانی سرباز وظیفه اعزامی از بردسکن خراسان رضوی و مجرد بود.

شهید دیگر این حادثه سرباز مهدی امینی اهل جوین- سبزوار در استان خراسان رضوی بود.

صادق خدادادی سومین شهید سربازی است که در این حادثه به شهادت رسید. وی اهل سرخس در استان خراسان رضوی بود.

In an other attack 10 were martyred and 3 injured :
1- شهید جهانتیغ (کادر)
2- شهید پودینه (کادر)
3- شهید دایی زاده (کادر)
4- شهید کاظمی (وظیفه)
5- شهید امینی (وظیفه)
6- شهید مکاری (وظیفه)
Some of them were kidnapped by them. Still we are losing valuable soldiers.

َAn other 8 martyred soldiers :
1- ستوان دوم علی امام دادی
2- گروهبان یکم رضا حسینی
3- ستوان دوم مهران القراع
4- سرباز وظیفه فرزاد اسماعیلی زاده
5- سرباز وظیفه حسن بیاتی
6- سرباز وظیفه محمد احمدی
7- سرباز وظیفه عباس مهران دوز
8- سرباز وظیفه میلاد جر

.

They will be avenged. Their blood was not cheap. They died for us, they died for vatan, their killers will pay for it.

 

[Big Tank]

no you don't complain to PG Arabs even though heavy money was funneled into pakistan from India via UAE ... your enemy is sitting in these fat sheikhdoms in persian gulf and is causing carnage in your country, show me official press release, statement, protest instead of who is getting abused on street. Your ex military commander is heading an anti iran/shia alliance in riyadh. UAE is major part of that alliance, has he complained to them ? has pak govt. complained or asked UAE govt. to track or stop your enemy intelligence from funneling terror money into your country ? Respond me on that and we will discuss it further.

Did we ever officially put a press release complaining to Iran about their Mortars landing on our soil? Did we officially complain about Indian Intelligence running a network in Iran against Pakistan? I don't say you people were involved but your agencies were careless and incompetent towards catching Indian spies. Our Ex Chief is heading the alliance and so far he didn't take any Anti Iranian step. His first condition was that no Anti Iranian action would be tolerated. And if it'll be such a case. He'll step back from the position. We know our Chief better than you my friend. Its him luckily who is heading or else if it'd have been any Wahabi General. There would've been a mess till now.

 

[AmirPatriot]

I don't say you people were involved but your agencies were careless and incompetent towards catching Indian spies.

Maybe because Iran faces no threat from India and therefore its intelligence gathering and counterintelligence resources are not utilised against India.

 

[Big Tank]

Maybe because Iran faces no threat from India and therefore its intelligence gathering and counterintelligence resources are not utilised against India.

What kind of logic is that? So you'll let RAW use Iran just because they pose no threat to you Iranians but their agents igniting Baluch Separatists These Hindus even hosted Shin Bet Operatives and Israeli AF to bomb our Kahuta Nuclear Plant unless it was discovered by our Air Intelligence. So they'll harm you people when they'll need. They've got much closer ties with Israel and in the end they've enough hatred against Muslims.

Although I am confident that your government doesn't think the way you've expressed here. No one is such stupid, a country like yours can never be. When it knows it Pakistan will be the only one to help them in case full scale war with Americans or the Israelis.

 

[tirdad]

They will be avenged. Their blood was not cheap. They died for us, they died for vatan, their killers will pay for it.

Sanar bede Ash , be hamin khial bash !!!

حتماً انتقامشون گرفته میشه !!!
همونطور که انتقام اونایی که تو جنگ کشته شدن، گرفته شد ؟؟؟
یا اونایی که تو مکه ، نفله شدن ؟
یا اون دو تا نوجوون که تو حریم امن الهی بهشون تجاوز شد ؟؟؟
یا اون بی گناه هایی که به دستور جلاد بزرگ شورش 59، بی گناه، اعدام شدن ؟؟؟
یا اونایی که توسط ناو وینسنس رو دریا، پر پر شدن ؟؟؟

بی خود دلتو خوش نکن !!!

 

[Blue In Green]

What kind of logic is that? So you'll let RAW use Iran just because they pose no threat to you Iranians but their agents igniting Baluch Separatists These Hindus even hosted Shin Bet Operatives and Israeli AF to bomb our Kahuta Nuclear Plant unless it was discovered by our Air Intelligence. So they'll harm you people when they'll need. They've got much closer ties with Israel and in the end they've enough hatred against Muslims.

Although I am confident that your government doesn't think the way you've expressed here. No one is such stupid, a country like yours can never be. When it knows it Pakistan will be the only one to help them in case full scale war with Americans or the Israelis.

In all honesty do you think that Pakistan will come to the aid of Iran when the Isreal's and the US attack (the Saudis will attack iran aswell creating a problem for Pakistan).

I'm not trying to create an issue here I'm seriously curious.