2 Iranian civilians killed in alleged cross-border attack

[Muhammed45]

The major news houses like dawn have pro india pro iranian tones.

Well i don't think so.
The death of Pakistani border guards during Iranian shell or death of your civilians were an other lie from your medias mostly in Dawn. No proof, i even asked Pakistani users to bring me the names of murdered soldiers or even civilians but they failed. That was an other kind of lie and propaganda against us.

Most of the times our channel talk shows are busy in bashing saudis, which i dont care much , i only want a balanced reporting which covers all the foreign players form iran to saudia to india per their levels of involvement in stirring trouble in pakistan.

Shia or Sunni media outlet is acting emotionally. You need something like Press TV of Iran, Russia Today of Russian federation or CNN/FOX/VOA of USA which only acts for country's benefits without considering other factors which may result in baseless/proof-less and emotional outlet. A national media with no bias. However about American outlets, i believe that they are a bunch of coup conductors around the world but the most important factor of them, they always put USA's benefits above anything. Your medias should do the same and avoid media shunt against an other country.

Last year when Kulbushan was caught from balochistan, around same time i think Khaminei or rouhani was visiting pakistan.

That was Rouhani the president. And no, when he was in Pakistan to prove our good will about your country, the Pak media outlets released the confessions of Yadhav and started accusing Iran of everything you could imagine.
Finally Nawaz personally warned !!! the media outlets and asked them to stop shunting against Iran and Iranian president. Nawaz is not pro Iran and in many cases i have seen him on the side of anti Iran elements but you can understand the volume of attack in your medias that forced him to react.

And our government did raise the issue withur leader who obvsly rejected harboring indian terrorist (spy isnt a nice word for him)

The entrance of that terrorist who had used fake identity and came into Iran among the Indian workers in Chabahar port, was an unwanted event. He could at the same time enter Pakistan and pass the security gates of Pakistan and make relations with UAE funded militants like Jeysh ul Islam. I would agree that India abused our trust but witnessed the result in lowering economic relations with them. Although they were the only country that helped us during the hard sanctions and continued to buy Iranian crude oil despite USA's warnings but anyways we will not let someone to abuse our territory against Pakistan. you can see the vise versa being done by your governors and yet we cannot stop the bloodshed of Iranians on those boundaries.

At that time one of the talk show hosts at dawn news channel even went on to say it was a diplomatic blunder by pakistan to ask iranian president on his face about jadhev.

Yes it was LOL. I can imagine Rouhani's face when he was talking to Nawaz friendly hahhah. Hey man who the hell is Yadhav?

lastly, as of your drone action , well in the past we saw many aggressive statements issued by your army chief and some MP but weirdly enough when drone was shotdown iran chose to keep mum and did not raise ruckus as per her past record, nor threatened of sending in more drones unlike how pdf iranian posters were making boastful claims n threats, infact much like you made in this very post of yours. The silent attitude in this case points towards iranian awareness that she was in the wrong and is in a weak position that she did not even verbally contest pakistans decision to take out the drone.

Did you see that the Quds force has killed one of the two terrorists?
Quds force operates outside of Iran and no Iranian is proud of it FYI, we are forced to do this. The result of 10 years failed negotiations. There are tens of those drones operating 24 hours a day watching the terrorist activities.
I wonder you want to make it a military competition between two countries like other members of PDF. We are not there to prove our strength, we are there to stop terrorist activities.

At the end there has been done way too much speculation here, i am quite unhappy over two iranians deaths. But i would say it is time for introspection for iranian government as well, for looking towards uplifting sistan province where insurgency has led people to pick arms. If it is an internal issue it wont be getting solved by blaming pakistan each time about cross border attacks which may not neccessarily have come from pakistani territory. Read the op , even it contradicts itself, it says terrorirst attacked form pakistani soil then it futher readthen fled back to paksitani territory? And each time they use long range weapons to fire inside iranian land form pakistani territory?

Anyways i really expected our interior minstry or foreign office to give a statement on this issue and clarify the air, but unfortunately they have not responded.

Nonetheless the loss of life on either side and one like this recent one are highly deplorable, i really hope both the sides do take up joint efforts to make the border safe. Hearing such news is also frustrating for common Pakistanis.

It could be solved many years ago and we hadn't to discuss it here,
We could have normal relations as other neighbors do based on mutual benefits. But foreign interventions in Pakistan's internal affairs is avoiding such thing happen. The example was IP pipeline which Pakistan due to USA's political pressures, retreated from.
I believe that the terrorist activities is an American plan too. A Ant like UAE hasn't such ideological or military power to intervene in our affairs, someone powerful is leading them. NATO presence on your soil is an other fact that helps west to insecure our boundaries and annoy both sides. They claim of fighting terrorism and ask many things from your governments as an exchange but at the same time they support those terrorists through their regional lackeys to be able keeping that leverage on your governments. The same is happening in Iraq, USA is dropping air aids to ISIS but on the other hand claims of fighting ISIS.

Iranian Sistan province once was the pole of Iran's wheat production industry but due to Afghanistan's dams on the Helmand/Hirmand river, most of agricultural fields are destroyed and it's natural climate is completely changed. There is a national program to transit the desalinated water of Persian gulf into that province using nuclear reactors. It's a hard project and needs a decade but Inshallah that province will have it's past role and becomes one of the most developed provinces once again.

No Iranian hates Pakistan and i think it is the same about Pakistanis. There is a divide and conquer being done in the region and Pakistani side doesn't realize it.

Considering that PKK/PJAK has camps within the Iranian borders tolerated by the regime, Iranians has no right to any kind of exaggerated reactions. However, I don't really understand this conflict at all. Both countries don't want further escalation. Why aren't you guys able to work together peacefully? This is the chance for the establishment of a joint border patrol unit between Pakistan and Iran to fight terrorism. It would be the first kind of it in the ME. Be a role model for the Islamic World.

I thought PKK/PJK is killing Iranian border guards. The same story, in an other neighbor.
At least Turkey approves our operations against Pejak terrorists. I may say thanks

Guys NATO bastards are in your countries not in Iran. They are the roots of problem and i can neglect ants like UAE or KSA puppets. NATO is the problem

 

[yavar]

Iran responds to Pakistan-based terrorist attack ایران به حمله تروریستی مستقر در پاکستان پاسخ دااد

 

[abrar khan]

Two Iranian civilians were killed in an alleged cross-border attack by suspected militants on Saturday, according to the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

A statement on the Guards' Sepah News website said, "On Saturday evening, a terrorist team... fired (ammunition) from within Pakistani territory towards the Iranian border region of Saravan. Two local workers in the region were martyred in this terrorist attack,” read the statement.

The attack allegedly took place in the Sistan-Baluchistan province.

According to the statement, personnel of the Quds force, the Guards' foreign operations wing, killed one of the attackers and wounded two, while others reportedly fled back into Pakistani territory.

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani wrote to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif calling for greater efforts to prevent militant attacks along the border.

In May, the head of the Iranian armed forces warned that Tehran would hit bases inside Pakistan if the government does not confront "militants who carry out cross-border attacks" after ten Iranian border guards were killed in cross-border terrorists attacks.

Pakistan had denied any involvement in the attack and termed Tehran’s threat as being against the spirit of brotherly relations between Pakistan and Iran.

The border area has long been plagued by unrest from both drug smuggling gangs and suspected separatist militants.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1345682/2-iranian-civilians-killed-in-alleged-cross-border-attack

Indian cause is well served by this post.

RI

No proof, i even asked Pakistani users to bring me the names of murdered soldiers or even civilians but they failed

RIP to the innocent civilians died in attack.
Can you quote the name of these 2 civilians plus the name of 10 border guard in last attack?
We believe indian RAW is active against PAK IRAN relations. We have captured one of their monkey while crossing Pak Iran border.

yes no one takes him serious bcz he asked for proof and you know those who ask for proof are fool according to Bakht logic

@Eminent Mainstream Media i am still waiting for IA to release Video
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-of-surgical-strikes/articleshow/54684826.cms

Soon they will bring sunny devil movie as proof.

You need something like Press TV of Iran, Russia Today of Russian federation or CNN/FOX/VOA of USA which only acts for country's benefits without considering other factors which may result in baseless/proof-less and emotional outlet.

You need to watch PTV, a government own channel.

 

[Muhammed45]

Can you quote the name of these 2 civilians plus the name of 10 border guard in last attack?

This is the image of 8 Iranian border guards martyred by Jeysh ul Islam/adl group. They were 11 soldiers whom were barraged by terrorists, all martyred

Their names and identities :
ستوانسوم علی پودینه اهل زابل، متاهل و دارای سه فرزند است. این شهید بزرگوار جزو نیروهای کادری به شهادت رسیده است.

شهید ستوان سوم محسن دایی زاده یکی دیگر از نیروهای کادری مرزبانی است که روز گذشته در هنگ مرزی میرجاوه به شهادت رسید. وی اهل کرمان بوده و چند ماهی بیشتر از ازدواجش نمی گذرد.

شهید معین بیانی سرباز وظیفه اعزامی از بردسکن خراسان رضوی و مجرد بود.

شهید دیگر این حادثه سرباز مهدی امینی اهل جوین- سبزوار در استان خراسان رضوی بود.

صادق خدادادی سومین شهید سربازی است که در این حادثه به شهادت رسید. وی اهل سرخس در استان خراسان رضوی بود.

In an other attack 10 were martyred and 3 injured :
1- شهید جهانتیغ (کادر)
2- شهید پودینه (کادر)
3- شهید دایی زاده (کادر)
4- شهید کاظمی (وظیفه)
5- شهید امینی (وظیفه)
6- شهید مکاری (وظیفه)
Some of them were kidnapped by them. Still we are losing valuable soldiers.

َAn other 8 martyred soldiers :
1- ستوان دوم علی امام دادی
2- گروهبان یکم رضا حسینی
3- ستوان دوم مهران القراع
4- سرباز وظیفه فرزاد اسماعیلی زاده
5- سرباز وظیفه حسن بیاتی
6- سرباز وظیفه محمد احمدی
7- سرباز وظیفه عباس مهران دوز
8- سرباز وظیفه میلاد جر

Yet the 2 martyrs in that incident are unidentified.

Iran responds to Pakistan-based terrorist attack ایران به حمله تروریستی مستقر در پاکستان پاسخ دااد

Sardar bagheri is a man of his words. No neglect anymore, everyone of those terrorists will die asap.

 

[Big Tank]

Well i don't think so.
The death of Pakistani border guards during Iranian shell or death of your civilians were an other lie from your medias mostly in Dawn. No proof, i even asked Pakistani users to bring me the names of murdered soldiers or even civilians but they failed. That was an other kind of lie and propaganda against us.

Shia or Sunni media outlet is acting emotionally. You need something like Press TV of Iran, Russia Today of Russian federation or CNN/FOX/VOA of USA which only acts for country's benefits without considering other factors which may result in baseless/proof-less and emotional outlet. A national media with no bias. However about American outlets, i believe that they are a bunch of coup conductors around the world but the most important factor of them, they always put USA's benefits above anything. Your medias should do the same and avoid media shunt against an other country.

That was Rouhani the president. And no, when he was in Pakistan to prove our good will about your country, the Pak media outlets released the confessions of Yadhav and started accusing Iran of everything you could imagine.
Finally Nawaz personally warned !!! the media outlets and asked them to stop shunting against Iran and Iranian president. Nawaz is not pro Iran and in many cases i have seen him on the side of anti Iran elements but you can understand the volume of attack in your medias that forced him to react.

The entrance of that terrorist who had used fake identity and came into Iran among the Indian workers in Chabahar port, was an unwanted event. He could at the same time enter Pakistan and pass the security gates of Pakistan and make relations with UAE funded militants like Jeysh ul Islam. I would agree that India abused our trust but witnessed the result in lowering economic relations with them. Although they were the only country that helped us during the hard sanctions and continued to buy Iranian crude oil despite USA's warnings but anyways we will not let someone to abuse our territory against Pakistan. you can see the vise versa being done by your governors and yet we cannot stop the bloodshed of Iranians on those boundaries.

Yes it was LOL. I can imagine Rouhani's face when he was talking to Nawaz friendly hahhah. Hey man who the hell is Yadhav?

Did you see that the Quds force has killed one of the two terrorists?
Quds force operates outside of Iran and no Iranian is proud of it FYI, we are forced to do this. The result of 10 years failed negotiations. There are tens of those drones operating 24 hours a day watching the terrorist activities.
I wonder you want to make it a military competition between two countries like other members of PDF. We are not there to prove our strength, we are there to stop terrorist activities.

It could be solved many years ago and we hadn't to discuss it here,
We could have normal relations as other neighbors do based on mutual benefits. But foreign interventions in Pakistan's internal affairs is avoiding such thing happen. The example was IP pipeline which Pakistan due to USA's political pressures, retreated from.
I believe that the terrorist activities is an American plan too. A Ant like UAE hasn't such ideological or military power to intervene in our affairs, someone powerful is leading them. NATO presence on your soil is an other fact that helps west to insecure our boundaries and annoy both sides. They claim of fighting terrorism and ask many things from your governments as an exchange but at the same time they support those terrorists through their regional lackeys to be able keeping that leverage on your governments. The same is happening in Iraq, USA is dropping air aids to ISIS but on the other hand claims of fighting ISIS.

Iranian Sistan province once was the pole of Iran's wheat production industry but due to Afghanistan's dams on the Helmand/Hirmand river, most of agricultural fields are destroyed and it's natural climate is completely changed. There is a national program to transit the desalinated water of Persian gulf into that province using nuclear reactors. It's a hard project and needs a decade but Inshallah that province will have it's past role and becomes one of the most developed provinces once again.

No Iranian hates Pakistan and i think it is the same about Pakistanis. There is a divide and conquer being done in the region and Pakistani side doesn't realize it.


I thought PKK/PJK is killing Iranian border guards. The same story, in an other neighbor.
At least Turkey approves our operations against Pejak terrorists. I may say thanks

Guys NATO bastards are in your countries not in Iran. They are the roots of problem and i can neglect ants like UAE or KSA puppets. NATO is the problem

Just ignore that Ocean guy. Talks about Iran-Pak relations while doesn't even knows that Supreme Leader never visits countries. It was the Iranian President. Alright I disagree with many of your points. Being a Pakistani I'll always defend my country no matter what but at the same time I won't deny the lies of our media. The fact is that there is no strong media regulation in Pakistan. Unlike Iran or Russia. We only have single state-run Media outlet thats PTV (Pakistan Television) which is broke and has lowest public rating. Our Media is dominated by Private Media Owners who are free to receive funding from anywhere they want. Most of them are American and Indian funded.

THE INDIAN SPY
Iranian Intelligence should've kept an eye on the huge strength of Indian merchants and workers at Chawbahar since Pak-Indian Rivalry is well known and existing since 1947. This is the world's longest and most active rivalry going on. It was their job to keep it free of spies but instead Commander Yadav had set up a massive network. Ending up killing 10,000 Pakistani Citizens in different bomb blasts along with Many of our Military Personnel by Tehrik e Taliban and Baluch Militants. That isn't something light. You must accept that Iranian authorities were simply so deep involved in ME that they ignored us. Although there is never late. I expect your Intelligence to curb the Indian network and make sure no espionage activity is done using your soil. I hope that the relations get excellent and both the Militaries work along to bang Namak Haram Afghans and the growing threat of ISIS.

P.S: Nawaz is a big Saudi stooge. Do not expect anything from him.

 

[BATMAN]

Primary Iranian Proxy in Iraq, The Mahdi Army was targeting US Forces. Five Major Battles were fought between Mahdi Fighters and American Soldiers. Including Siege of British Base forcing their successful withdrawal in Basra killing 33 Soldiers, Losing a commander and the Karbala Base Raid. Where Mahdi Fighters along with Quds Force Agents Stormed US HQ, Killing 5 Officers and Kidnapping some. You need a lot of research! Except making fairy tales about how Iranian Agents would ambush you in future. How old are you btw?

According to Iraqi person, whom I interviewed told me there was an agreement between Iran and US to kill Muslims of Iraq. Hence all the killing and raping and death brigades etc.
Even the people who were hanging Saddam were from Mehdi Militia.
What you are telling is completely opposite story... anyhow, why US didn't hit back at Iran, when Irani proxies were killing US soldiers?

 

[Arsalan 345]

According to Iraqi person, whom I interviewed told me there was an agreement between Iran and US to kill Muslims of Iraq. Hence all the killing and raping and death brigades etc.
Even the people who were hanging Saddam were from Mehdi Militia.
You are clearly telling is a complete opposite story... anyhow, why US didn't hit back at Iran, when Irani proxies were killing US soldiers?

they were.iran helped america during saddam capture.they killed thousands of sunnis in iraq and when america left,isis was born.iran is responsible for so many proxy wars.

 

[BATMAN]

they were.iran helped america during saddam capture.they killed thousands of sunnis in iraq and when america left,isis was born.iran is responsible for so many proxy wars.

I once met an Iraqi Engineer in UK, he was doing his masters, he used to keep quite, but I forced him to tell me a little bit, so he told me about daily killings and US invasion etc.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I once met an Iraqi Engineer in UK, he was doing his masters, he used to keep quite, but I forced him to tell me a little bit, so he told me about daily killings and US invasion etc.

it's true.irani commados invaded iraq and iraq was basically fighting two front war.so much war crimes against sunnis in iraq by iranians and now they are behaving like they did nothing.because of this hate,isis was born.iranians are responsible for everything.

 

[Iranm]

I once met an Iraqi Engineer in UK, he was doing his masters, he used to keep quite, but I forced him to tell me a little bit, so he told me about daily killings and US invasion etc.

He may have told you he is God, would you believe him?

 

[BATMAN]

Just like India, Iran is feeding its own public with lies.

 

[FULL_METAL]

The worst that can happen to you geographically is having Pakistan as your neighbor, RIP.

 

[BATMAN]

He may have told you he is God, would you believe him?

I was only asking about Iraq war. Most fascinating of all was the last battle at Baghdad Airport, between Iraqi troops vs. combined US-Iran proxies.

 

[FULL_METAL]

Just like India, Iran is feeding its own public with lies.

Rich coming from a guy whose country disowned their own fallen soldiers

 

[BATMAN]

Rich coming from a guy whose country disowned their own fallen soldiers

Disowned was Nachiketa.