1965 War Documentary Fath-e-Mobin

[Joe Shearer]

I was just saying what happened, not my fault you cannot handle the harsh reality about your PM.

As for my "foolish remarks", they are the truth, how about you look it up rather than acting condescending?

Seriously, not joking, don't you feel that given what I know and what I have shown I know, and given what you know, and what you have shown you know, should I not be condescending? Answer truthfully, and I will go by your answer.

 

[Delnavaz B]

Was it your father or your uncle who wrote?

What they verified.

 

[Joe Shearer]

What a joke this was...
Are you serious?
This is an open forum and you have no authority over me so stop using bad words. An ex army man does't have manners how to debate with the lady / member.
Just stop replying me and tries to ignore.

How was I to know you are a lady?

And why are you discussing topics that you know nothing about? Do you think being a woman gives you the right to spout nonsense?

What they verified.

But that, according to you yourself, is not information.

 

[Delnavaz B]

How was I to know you are a lady?

And why are you discussing topics that you know nothing about? Do you think being a woman gives you the right to spout nonsense?



But that, according to you yourself, is not information.

You are nothing but seems to be loner old retire person without a real life.
Any sensible person can judge gender by name. But seems to be hard for you. Sorry my mistake that i engage you in discussion.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Your source does not say we started hostilities, all it says is that we were weaker, which only further makes 1965 look like an Indian defeat.

About starting hostilities: let me ask you just three questions (you don't have to answer, just brood over them in silence):

• Was there any armed clash before the Rann of Kutch clashes?
• Was there any Indian action that provoked Operation Gibraltar?
• Was there any Indian action that provoked Operation Grand Slam?

 

[Delnavaz B]

How was I to know you are a lady?

And why are you discussing topics that you know nothing about? Do you think being a woman gives you the right to spout nonsense?



But that, according to you yourself, is not information.

Information yes but not the knowledge read my that post again.

 

[Joe Shearer]

You are nothing but seems to be loner old retire person without a real life.
Any sensible person can judge gender by name. But seems to be hard for you. Sorry my mistake that i engage you in discussion.

Yes, it was a grave mistake. Your resident military experts will 'inform' you that it is called a strategic mistake.

Information yes but not the knowledge read my that post again.

I did and that is what I am reminding you about. Experience leads to knowledge, reading leads to information. So you cannot have had information from your father and uncle, that, according to your wonderful definition, comes from reading alone; and you cannot have had knowledge, since that involves personal involvement, of which you have exactly none.

You are nothing but seems to be loner old retire person without a real life.
Any sensible person can judge gender by name. But seems to be hard for you. Sorry my mistake that i engage you in discussion.

I am sorry, I do not know Muslim names by gender.

 

[Delnavaz B]

I am sorry, I do not know Muslim names by gender.

That shows how Indian army officers lack of knowledge / Info about their own 20% population. pity

Have a nice day.

 

[Joe Shearer]

That shows how Indian army officers lack of knowledge / Info about their own 20% population. pity

Have a nice day.

LOL.

We only need to know who is serving with us.

 

[Dash]

That shows how Indian army officers lack of knowledge / Info about their own 20% population. pity

Have a nice day.

You just added an extra 5%. And yes we all know a khan a Musa a Susa and we also know Susan romeo but that's it.

We are not required. BTW I'm not army

 

[Delnavaz B]

LOL.

We only need to know who is serving with us.

Thats why you / army men treating Muslims specially Kashmirs like sub human or just animals. First you kill when they protest you started a thread to stop bloodshed. What a moral value you posses.

 

[Hamza913]

About starting hostilities: let me ask you just three questions (you don't have to answer, just brood over them in silence):

• Was there any armed clash before the Rann of Kutch clashes?
• Was there any Indian action that provoked Operation Gibraltar?
• Was there any Indian action that provoked Operation Grand Slam?

1. Not as far as I am aware of, but I am sure that were at least a few.
2. Yes, starting skirmishes before hand and oppressing the Kashmiri people of which I am proudly apart of). We went and helped the locals, perfectly fine.
3. Yes, you started taking territory in Pakistani Kashmir, so we had to launch a pre-emptive strike before the war officially broke out.

 

[Delnavaz B]

You just added an extra 5%. And yes we all know a khan a Musa a Susa and we also know Susan romeo but that's it.

We are not required. BTW I'm not army

As per my best info 20% but seems you will be correct after few days because your army killing Muslims in Kashmir randomly.

 

[Dash]

As per my best info 20% but seems you will be correct after few days because your army killing Muslims in Kashmir randomly.

Please share that peice of info and we will verify that.

 

[Joe Shearer]

1. Not as far as I am aware of, but I am sure that were at least a few.
2. Yes, starting skirmishes before hand and oppressing the Kashmiri people of which I am proudly apart of). We went and helped the locals, perfectly fine.
3. Yes, you started taking territory in Pakistani Kashmir, so we had to launch a pre-emptive strike before the war officially broke out.

The correct answers:

1. Not one. Your sureness is misplaced. Not a single one, not even an exchange of shots, after 1948. Go check with your knowledgeable seniors.
2. No skirmishes. Not a single one. And as for oppressing the Kashmiri people, it was their local information which led to every one of the commandos being captured.
3. I asked a specific question, and you evaded it. Your pre-emptive strike is a start of hostilities, isn't it? Or was that a non-violent demonstration by disarmed soldiers.

Now do you get it?

@dsr478

Still no answer to whether or not I am justified in being condescending?