10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[Zohair Alam]

Meanwhile LAC at Arunachal Pradesh is quiet, and in Kashmir, what's going on?

- PRTP GWD

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India's LAC frustration going on in IOK, to divert public attention toward Pakistan. The usual business.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

You have said it too soon, dont embarrass yourself anyway RIP to the dead.

I stand by my words.

Just you wait for 20 years. Or are you too old to do so?

- PRTP GWD

 

[KING OF BABARS TRIBE]

I


Inferiority complex.

every nationalists if they are in governments or not have always these complex

 

[PanzerKiel]

Meanwhile LAC at Arunachal Pradesh is quiet, and in Kashmir, what's going on?

- PRTP GWD

LOC is not quiet at the moment.

 

[rott]

What else can they do ?

What are you doing here? Why not go Google for more Chinese soldiers getting killed.

 

[StormBreaker]

Shahzade,

We need to take a detached view.... understandable the PakPosters reacting here as they do...since, we have been subjected to daily onsluaght of MightyIndianness .... and whatnotz... regardless...

Let us first build a picture based on available informaiton-

The Start:

The PLA moves in large numbers in different points accross the LAC... and more consolidated in Ladakh... Finger4 is now ChineseFinger!

There was practically a studied silence from the Chinese side...and the Indian side was quiet as a grave.... letting known through selected mouthpieces that there was NO Incursion in IndianOccupiedLadakh...and that it was just differing Perception of LAC....

Here on PDF we have countless threads to this effect...

The Middle:

We saw different AsocialMedia claims and counter-claims... with some OpenSourceIntel handle showing one or the other...

The PLA started their high altitude exercies in Tibet... also, showed alot of equipment and troops joining the 'exercises' ... the very Chinese way of Speaking without words...

There were talks held at the place which is under the PLA control...with military protocal employed to demonstrate displeasure i.e. senior IA officer meeting his counterpart one rank junior to himself... IA officer was also made to wait... the meeting was at the Request of the Indians....

Then whishpers of Diplomatic n Peaceful resolution of the 'dispute' emerged from the Indian side...which were echoed by the Chinese...

We saw the lynching of a single Chinese Solider at the hands of Indian troops... him being pushed under the riot-shield ...Indian troops excited... trying to smash the headlight of an armoured vehicle...

The next day the Chinese released picture of Indian troops tied up and 'provided care' by the PLA... with storyline that they fell from the hills and luckily the PLA was there to take-care of them... Framing!

The Indians also move equipment and troops to the front...and showed it via AsocialMedia... at least what I saw here on PDF... but Quiet as a Grave ModiRegime kept the Omerta Oath...

The BiggestDeomcracy Song... well, IndiaMoD gagged the IndianMedia about reporting ... 'heating up things' ...

Some reports of CAPs from both sides... so fair to conclude some level of aerial activity there....

The the Indian DM spoke to media... dropping slight hints of the ChineseIncursion in typical PoliticalDoubleSpeak.... adding that through Peaceful means ....

Then another Modi minister proclaimed peaceful nature of India adding that India doesn't lust after lands of its neighbours and wants Peace!

Then we hand the same Indian MD ... that India will stand firm in the standoff....

NOW:

IndianArmy offically claims that an high ranking officer and two soldiers are dead... and it did add that there are casualities on the Chinese side... it is probable...

Only question would be what were the instruements of engagement that caused deaths/casualities on both side?

Sticks n Stone?
Or something more 19th/20th Century?

Mr. Shukla is claiming that there are massive casualities...so far he has been sticking his neckout... please, remember that he is as much IndianNationalist as any RSSrz.... if not more!!!

Intial assessment is the manner of Framing this incidence..

As I tried to convey earlier...the Chinese have been consistent in Framing that the IndianTroops illegally entered the Chinese territory ...and that India must stop its agressive behaviour... Peace n Harmony would be better.

The manner and scope of the PLA liberating parts of Ladakh and subsequent demands from ModiRegime to nullify the paper exercise of annexation of IoJK...for them Ladakh matters... proves that the PRC had planned this sometime back and its wasn't some locoal commander getting adventurous... such things don't happen in PLA....anyhow, not at such a scale!!!

Since, the IndianArmy has officially accepted the losses..this means some de-escalation needs to happen and Indians will be pushing for that...

Why?

Because, if the Indians were serious in taking back the Liberated parts of Ladakh it would have done airstrikes already... and not given the PLA time to amass troops near the LAC...

CrystalBallGazing.... one should avoid it... a small miscalculation from either side will result in a far bigger clash than 1962... with enormus price in men, material and political prestige!

Simply, because a loosing side will be out of The Greatest Game in Town!

The Stakes are NOT tactical but Strategic and ThirdActor related.... look at the MAP!

For now, from PakPerspective it is wisest to remain a DetachedStudent and keep very close feedback-loop with the Chinese...

What is Material Fact that the PLA has Changed Facts on the Ground... and Indians have defacto accepted some of those Facts...and not the other...and that is what this Peaceful Talks is all about!

Mangus

@Signalian @PanzerKiel @PakSword @RescueRanger @jaibi @BHarwana @Foxtrot Alpha @Blacklight @Slav Defence

You should open up a new channel or something man !!!

Your views are not short of beauty

 

[Passionaire]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1272867549005246464

 

[Zohair Alam]

Reh

So , the rhetoric that Chinese are not occupying any Indian territory specially in Galwan sector is still on?

Since Indians love their item songs, this will help in educating the Indian masses as to what is going on in LAC.

American whimpers are not even heard. Very awkward situation for Indian establishment.

Regarding item number, the following Bollywood was instructive for China to grab a land at LAC

 

[graphican]

Abhijit Iyer-Mitra
@Iyervval

11 Indian soldiers critically injured. In all likelihood our fatality count is going to rise. There seems to be rescue ops happening & confusion on the ground. I am only tweeting things I can confirm from 3 persons on the ground. No single source tweets.
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Abhijit Iyer-Mitra
@Iyervval
· 2h
Ok just got confirmation from top level sources. We have in fact killed 5 of their soldiers including a PLA officer. Our 3 soldiers are having autopsies done to ascertain cause of death. they had fallen down a very steep slope/ravine around PP14 (at a height of 14,500 feet) twitter.com/iyervval/statu…
12:07 PM · Jun 16, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Just question this twitter poster: Indian soldiers died of falling from a "steep slope" and you killed 5 Chinese soldiers for what?

And without provocation when you killed 5 Chinse soldiers then aren't you giving them a "license to kill your soldiers"?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

1:6.28 to be precise

Rounded it out. Census dates between both are not dated at same time. Allow some error fact. So you get 1:7. No big differance. Unless you want to split hairs.

this infographic stands. Just one Indian state of Utter Pradesh has same population as Pakistan.

 

[Shah_Deu]

320 Guests!

Seems like all Endians have switched from Republic TV to Defence.pk for real news and discussions.

They can go back to Arnab Goswami Shows when they need a feel good factor again.

 

[appliedfor]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/16/three-indian-soldiers-killed-clash-chinese-border/

Another 34 Indian soldiers missing, source tells The Telegraph, after clashes with batons as China claims its troops acted in self-defence

@Dark1 @Raj-Hindustani

They might be killed as well..

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

LOC is not quiet at the moment.

What happened to Pakistan's new strategy, new policy of 'Leave India alone, keep hands off and hope that it will implode'?

- PRTP GWD

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

They might be killed as well..

Might be true that's why total silence. Let's wait for Modi Govt lies.

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

You should open up a new channel or something man !!!

Your views are not short of beauty

But shorn of logic.

- PRTP GWD